(this is not an attack on anyone)
Nice work Trickster, you got it.
Let's see.
This thread is called An Introduction to Formal Logic.
I posed a couple of questions about validity, and you answered them correctly.
For the purposes of getting this back on track, I'll complete the drill.
1. Some Saudis are Muslims
Some Muslims are terrorists
Some Saudis are terrorists.
This is well-formed, but the so-called MIDDLE TERM (Muslims) is not "distributed" among subject and predicate. Venn diagrams (the "Ballentine Ale" symbol - 3 overlapping circles) would show this clearly but I don't know how to put them up here. What is means is that the set which is the intersection of Saudis and Terrorists may be null under the premisses (point being, all the terrorists, may in fact be non-saudis under the premisses).
I disagree that non-Aristotlean logic is required to solve this. It may be able to, but the fallacy has been known since the beginning and is easily dealt with by traditional methods. (Sorry Peter)
LW gave the equivalent Predicate Calculus demonstration elsewhere.
No Syllogism of the SOME, SOME, SOME variety is ever valid.
2. An object with covers, pages, and a binding is a book.
This is a book.
This has covers, pages and a binding.
Form If A then B.
B
Therefore A
Fallacy of affirming the consequent. Always invalid (Use of truth tables demonstrates that the conclusion can be false while the premisses are true - the definition of implication (if, then)
T implies T = true
T implies F = false
F implies T = true
F implies F = true
Hence, if you can demonstrate a condition where the conclusion is false and the premisses are true, you have an invalid argument. Conversely if assuming the falsity of the conclusion leads to a contradiction, the argument is valid (reductio).
For instance - this is hard to grasp but....
IF Today is November 5
AND Today is November 6
Then I am the emperor of China.
Assume that I am not the emporer of China.
By our assumptions, today is both November 5 and not November 5.
Since the assumption (I am NOT, etc) leads to a contradiction, we must conclude the negation of that assumption.
What this means is that from CONTRADICTORY premisses, anything at all follows.
(one point of the truth function of implication - false premisses implying a false conclusion has a truth value of TRUE)
Opposite side of the coin - any premise at all implies a tautology (statement that is always true). In the truth function of implication, when the conclusion is TRUE, the implication is always true, regardless of the whether the premisses are true or false.
3. An object with covers, pages, and a binding is a book.
This is not an object with covers, pages, and a binding.
This is not a book
If A then B
not A
Therefore not B
Denying the antecedant. Always invalid.
4. All US presidents are native born Americans
Some Catholics are native born Americans
Therefore some Catholic was a US president.
In this case, we also have a Middle term (native born american) that has not been distributed, etc.
But wait! This one is valid:
All native born Kansans are Americans.
Some Catholics are native born Kansans
Therefore some Catholics are Americans
(Middle term (Kansans) distributed)
I will not belabor this by giving all the rules for validity. See this site if you care
http://www.philosophypages.com/lg/e08a.htm
I have beaten this thing to death by now, but my point is real simple.
If some argument of form X has true premisses and a true conclusion, we must not conclude that all arguments of Form X have a true conclusion when the premisses are true.
The rules of classical syllogism have been restated in the form of predicate logic (that thing where (x) means "for all x" and the backwards-E x means "for at least one x").
I personally prefer the syllogistic approach because it doesn't require the intimidating math-like symbols, and has a nice, intuitive feel to it that is sometimes deceptive.
All examples given here sound a little bit reasonable since they contain true statements, but not one of them is valid. The logical flaws can only be exposed by looking beyond the semantics (meaning) of the terms and seeing the underlying formalism.
Fork go back to work now.
thank you.