Martinm,
What does that mean? I thought you were a determinist? I thought you didn’t believe in “free will”? (A-Theist!)
TLOP is obviously the ultimate controller of the action. Unless you are claiming your “consciousness” somehow has “magic” control over the chemical processes occurring in your brain?
How does this make your Car more conscious then you? How does any of this makes TLOP less conscious then YOU? Your point eludes me …
That’s not really an answer to the question? Are you a determinist or NOT? Do you believe in “free will”, or do you just pretend NOT to, so the A-Theists can claim to have ONE member who isn’t a “free willyier”?
Praise the Goddess! … Because … in all honesty … I’ve always liked you Martin! … plus … people I respect, have said good things about you.
We’re in enough hot water for the moment …
So are you claiming that you are no more conscious then your Car is? Try telling that to the Cop next time you get pulled over … let me know how it works out …
Martin, my friend ... I detect that you are too intelligent to repeat a big mistake twice, don't let dogma win over common sense.
Franko:
TLOP controls YOUR MIND controls APPENDAGES controls CAR.
Martinm:
That's a meaningless statement unless TLOP does not fully determine my actions. If I have no choices at all, I can make no choices as to the state of the car. TLOP determines it all.
What does that mean? I thought you were a determinist? I thought you didn’t believe in “free will”? (A-Theist!)
TLOP is obviously the ultimate controller of the action. Unless you are claiming your “consciousness” somehow has “magic” control over the chemical processes occurring in your brain?
How does this make your Car more conscious then you? How does any of this makes TLOP less conscious then YOU? Your point eludes me …
The DM allows the Player to make choices, so there is no analogy at all.
That’s not really an answer to the question? Are you a determinist or NOT? Do you believe in “free will”, or do you just pretend NOT to, so the A-Theists can claim to have ONE member who isn’t a “free willyier”?
By your definitions, I'm agnostic.
Praise the Goddess! … Because … in all honesty … I’ve always liked you Martin! … plus … people I respect, have said good things about you.
I actually have no problem with that, so long as you're consistent.
We’re in enough hot water for the moment …
In a Universe where my actions are completely determined by TLOP, in what way am I superior to my car?
So are you claiming that you are no more conscious then your Car is? Try telling that to the Cop next time you get pulled over … let me know how it works out …
Martin, my friend ... I detect that you are too intelligent to repeat a big mistake twice, don't let dogma win over common sense.