Alien Visitation Contact Proof

[Mojo]

I stepped out on the back porch last night, and the LED bug light was making almost exactly the same sound as recorded here. OMIGOD! they've landed here now!

They most likely mistook your back porch for Alpha Centauri again.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I see the question I asked here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13878029&postcount=1131 has gone unanswered.

If a bat had momentarily shorted out a high voltage transformer, how much evidence do you think you could see from the ground? You could not even recognize a picture of a bird at that distance.

As for what the camera could see of it, I'm reminded of Sam Weller in the Pickwick Papers being cross examined on his eyesight; "If they wos a pair o' patent double million magnifyin' gas microscopes of hextra power, p'raps I might be able to see through a flight o' stairs and a deal door; but bein' only eyes, you see, my wision 's limited".

(Yes of course I googled it. It's a really good line and deserved not to be paraphrased.)

 

[Jack by the hedge]

He still hasn’t really said what a Search Beam^TM is either, although he’s modified it to a “a transportation beam of some kind”, presumably because a “search beam” would be difficult to define in a way that would distinguish it from a searchlight.

So, cjdelphi, what did the “beam” in your video transport?

Alien search beams make a different sounding audio glitch from alien transporter beams. Very distinctive. Ironically, inaudible to bats.

 

[Mojo]

Alien search beams make a different sounding audio glitch from alien transporter beams. Very distinctive. Ironically, inaudible to bats.

I couldn’t see anything being transported in the video, so I’m curious as to how cjdelphi could identify a brief flash of light as “a transportation beam of some kind“.

 

[Steve]

I stepped out on the back porch last night, and the LED bug light was making almost exactly the same sound as recorded here. OMIGOD! they've landed here now!

They are everywhere. There is no escape. Our intrepid and knowledgeable OP has advised us to be very afraid.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I couldn’t see anything being transported in the video, so I’m curious as to how cjdelphi could identify a brief flash of light as “a transportation beam of some kind“.

All the action happened in the unrecorded second. You hear the transport beam before the aliens appear just like in Star Trek. Or is it after? Doesn't matter; the point is Star Trek's basically a documentary. Or, about as legit a documentary as some other stuff that's been linked to in this thread.

 

[sackett]

Even worse, it's

It's hard to reply to someone who's only intent is to cling to a belief in which they are heavily emotionally invested but cannot support with objective evidence or reasonable argument.

If your claim is being ridiculed you should at least consider the possibility it's because it's ridiculous.

hard to ridicule someone whose only reply is to make stuff up. Or who stuffs makeup
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Aw jeeze, now my syntax has been zapped by a neon drive.



NB: I am not picking on you, Pixel. But what's a poor buffoon to do, amidst all this low-hanging fruitcake?

 

[Steve]

I couldn’t see anything being transported in the video, so I’m curious as to how cjdelphi could identify a brief flash of light as “a transportation beam of some kind“.

cjdelphi knows, man! cjdelphi just knows! cjdelphi is an expert on all things alien. We are told so rather frequently in this very thread.

 

[Mojo]

low-hanging fruitcake

I am stealing that.

 

[sackett]

I am stealing that.

Je sême á tout vents.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I have taken away one plus from this monster crash. I Googled >Ion Thrusters< as I was wondering about if/how they would work in the atmosphere. It turns out the answer is "possibly but not very well".

I think that one powerful enough to do any lifting in the lower atmosphere of this planet would cause some serious electromagnetic side effects above a simple beam of visible light.

 

[stanfr]

It doubtlessly did light up the whole street. It just wasn't your street, it was one street over.



Your latest video is a loop of the moment the power tries and fails to reconnect and it perfectly well illustrates the flash of the fault still being present, 250 feet in front the camera, directly behind the house opposite. The flash lights up the tops of the trees while your street remains in shadow. Indirect light from the glow in the trees is seen on the car and the path on the right.


Here's how close the transformer pole is to your street. 250 feet in front of your camera. You would have a direct view of it except the house opposite you is right in the way.

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The three phase power lines only come halfway up your street. That transformer is as close to you as they are. It's the only local one I could find using Streetview. You seem to have fixated on the notion that the power line fault must have happened in your own street. I can't see any good reason to assume that. I can see that both streets' power lines join each other at the street corners and are directly bonded together. Your street's overhead power lines join others which run right to the transformer pole.

I think that perfectly explains the lights on the trees and path--but what about the light on the pots/path directly in front and on the bottom of the video--at about 0:19 of the slowed down clip? I'm not sure about that.

 

[Olmstead]

I think that perfectly explains the lights on the trees and path--but what about the light on the pots/path directly in front and on the bottom of the video--at about 0:19 of the slowed down clip? I'm not sure about that.

I'm not sure if you're joking? We've gone over this a hundred times. The last light is literally his light. He even provided pictures of it and admitted that the shadows match the ones cast by his light.

There was a routine automatic test of the circuit after the power outage, and some of the lights came on for a moment.

His response is that he is the smartest, and he knows that there was no way for the lights to come back for a moment.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

I have taken away one plus from this monster crash. I Googled >Ion Thrusters< as I was wondering about if/how they would work in the atmosphere. It turns out the answer is "possibly but not very well".

Ion drives meant for work in the atmosphere would be entirely different from those in space. Experiments have been done on this and, as you expected, don't lead to promising results.

Atmospheric ion drives would probably come from this field:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrohydrodynamics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft

I think that one powerful enough to do any lifting in the lower atmosphere of this planet would cause some serious electromagnetic side effects above a simple beam of visible light.

Simply scaling up an ion thruster intended for space would, but that's not at all likely to happen. It would be way too energy inefficient for one thing.

The techniques cited at the Wikipedia articles above generally don't lead to those problems, but then they don't work yet.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Ion drives meant for work in the atmosphere would be entirely different from those in space. Experiments have been done on this and, as you expected, don't lead to promising results.

Atmospheric ion drives would probably come from this field:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrohydrodynamics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-propelled_aircraft


Simply scaling up an ion thruster intended for space would, but that's not at all likely to happen. It would be way too energy inefficient for one thing.

The techniques cited at the Wikipedia articles above generally don't lead to those problems, but then they don't work yet.

Ah. I missed the second link. Thanks. I am still a bit boggled about what the effects of blasting a huge stream of ionized gas into the free atmosphere at close to ground level would be. But, as a WAG, suggest that they would at least be noticeable.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

I am still a bit boggled about what the effects of blasting a huge stream of ionized gas into the free atmosphere at close to ground level would be.

Theoretically no different from being under a helicopter of the same size. Most of the air moved by those techniques isn't ionized, but gets accelerated due to collisions with ions. And the ions are typically neutralized before leaving the thruster too.

 

[Mojo]

Je sême á tout vents.

That has a certain je ne sais quoi, but I don’t know what it means.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I think that perfectly explains the lights on the trees and path--but what about the light on the pots/path directly in front and on the bottom of the video--at about 0:19 of the slowed down clip? I'm not sure about that.

That light comes on briefly just after the flash of the aborted mains reconnection. The shadows it casts on the plant pots seem to match the shadows present when the lights are on before the power cut, though it's very much dimmer.

I infer it's one of the existing lights, which receives just enough energy into its power supply from the attempt to reinstate the mains that the energy discharges as a low intensity glow from the light.

The OP showed us a picture of an LED light fitting under the eaves of his house, pointing directly down so far as I could see, out of shot to the left from the camera's viewpoint. That seems to be the perfect candidate.

 

[MBDK]

Theoretically no different from being under a helicopter of the same size. Most of the air moved by those techniques isn't ionized, but gets accelerated due to collisions with ions. And the ions are typically neutralized before leaving the thruster too.

One important aspect here, in relation to any supposed alien visitation, is that type of drive requires a gaseous medium in which to operate. This severely limits your travel opportunities through interstellar space, to say the least.

 

[malbui]

That has a certain je ne sais quoi, but I don’t know what it means.

I imagine it's a misspelled reference to a 1952 film about an extra-terrestrial visiting Earth.

"Je sème à tout vent" loosely means something like "I scatter to the four winds".