Right, got to the 1hr mark in Terrorstorm. More than halfway through
Here's a few more problems (sadly, seem to get more sarcastic the more I watch)
34:45 – Terrorstorm claims that Mossad had advance warning of the bombings. Terrorstorm pretty much got this right, but exaggerates how much warning they had – while this is disputed, it looks like the London office of Mossad had more like 6minutes warning (
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9369). To quote Mossad chief Meir Dagan “The Mossad office in London received advance notice about the attacks, but only six minutes before the first blast. As a result, it was impossible to take any action to prevent the blasts.” (
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9369) It’s not clear whether Mossad passed this information to UK authorities as quickly as one might have hoped, but clearly a non-specific warning even if given the full six minutes before the blast left them rather short of time to act.
35 – it’s “crystal clear” that the British government had to be behind the attacks and the ‘cover-up’. I take it this irrefutable evidence is going to come later in the film, then?
35:40 – Shayler claims an MI5 officer thought that Israel bombed their own London embassy in 1994. Such a shame we can’t check up on the – no doubt first rate – evidence for his claim.
36:40 – same old NORAD standdown claim.
37:30 – claims that a drill that morning had bombs going off in exactly the same location. Cites Peter Power. There’s different stories about how close the drill was to the actual events – would be worth looking into further. And, if Power was involved in a conspiracy, wtf was he doing giving loads of media interviews about it.
40:29 – dodgy stats: working backwards after the event to show how unlikely a coincidence was.
40:35 – asks who benefited from the bombings (pics of Bush, Blair etc.) Conspiracy theory nutcases like Jones have benefited – therefore Jones must have been behind it all along!
41:45 – again with Labour sure to lose parliamentary elections. They actually show UK news sources, but somehow didn’t notice the elections had been won before the bombings. Doh.
42 – after the bombings, Blair brought in loads of tyrannical legislation. Shows stories about calls for the banning of types of kitchen knives (which the tyrannical Home Office did not support -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4581871.stm by the way, the link appears to be to the same story pictured in the film…and Jones could have learnt that the Home Office did not support this move if he had only read to the bottom of the sodding story). They also show a story about the UK handgun ban introduced after the killings at Dunblane. There’s also a pic of a story on ID cards (which have not been introduced yet). They do bring up the civil contingencies act – well, they found 1 bit of legislation that was arguably introduced in response to 7/7 – but if that’s all the tyranny the UK faces I don’t think we’re doing too badly…
42:40 – apparently ‘Pentagon documents’ show that they real plan for Iraq was to Balkanise it. Terrorstorm shows a pic of some books – would saying what the documents are and where I can read them be too much trouble? I’ve gone through lots of the US DoD documents on Iraq, and never saw anything like that…
43 – Bush administration wanted to keep Iraq in sectarian turmoil to let it build military bases there (yeah, bases are really helpful when insurgents keep the troops there busy most of the time, while US casualties really help boost Bush’s popularity) and give profits to defence contractors (wouldn’t there have been an easier way…big pointless weapons systems, say…)
43:10 – Apparently, US, UK and Israeli forces have been caught repeatedly conducting terrorist attacks in Iraq, to keep the war going. That’s really interesting – obviously the video’s now going to provide evidence for this major accusation…
43:20 – to save time, the video’s just going to look at one example…obviously they have got loads of examples to pick from though…honest.
And the example they give is of the 2 British SAS soldiers arrested in Basra, and freed by UK troops before the police could hand them over to a Shia militia (
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1796566,00.html). The soldiers were engaged in counter-insurgency operations at the time, and had clashed with police (
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1796566,00.html) Terrorstorm argues that these SAS troops were obviously engaged in terrorism because they were out shooting (including clashing with police) and had weapons and explosives on them (I know the British army’s badly resourced nowadays, but we really can afford to arm SAS troops).
Terrorstorm thus misses the real story about sectarianism in Iraq – that Basra’s police force had either been infiltrated by or grown much too close to Shia militias – in order to construct some conspiracy theory BS and libel Britain’s armed forces. It’s also interesting that conspirators are seen as both incredibly evil and merciless, but also as caring a lot about human life (if the SAS troops had been engaging in terror operations, why not just let them be handed over to the militia and killed – would have got much less attention than a rescue operation, and dead men don’t talk).
44:10 – the SAS soldiers have now become “commandos”.
44:20 – again, Terrorstorm does the trick of having a showing a picture of a relatively ‘balanced’ article (
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4271234.stm), but then extracting information from it in such a way as to bear minimal resemblance to the actual article.
Oh yeah, and naturally ‘proving’ that two British soldiers carried out terrorist operations obviously proves that: a) the whole British army was involved and b) both the US and Israel (which hasn’t got soldiers in Iraq) were also conducting terrorist attacks. Us Jews must be, like, super-powerful: we can carry out military operations without even needing to have our soldiers in a country!
44:30 and on – Bush and Blair used dubious tactics to get into war in Iraq. Bits of the film here may be dodgy, but really don’t have the energy to defend them.
52:30 – asserts that, if a journalist in Iraq runs one story that’s critical of occupation government they get an average 30yr sentence. Alternatively, sometimes journalists are just tortured or executed.
That’s really interesting – I knew there were significant problems for journalists in Iraq, but hadn’t heard this exciting news about the average 30yr sentence for the first critical story you write. I can’t wait to hear Jones’ evidence for this…oh, it must be coming later…
52:40 – the Pentagon covertly controls “almost every major newspaper in I-Raq” and PR firms write most stories in the US. Both of these happen to some extent, but I didn’t know it was that bad…I can’t wait to see Jones’ evidence to prove this…oh, yeah.
53 – apparently billions and billions of dollars are spent to manipulate the news (I presume Jones means by the US military). I know this is a real concern for the military nowadays, but billions and billions of dollars? I can’t wait for Jones to detail where his figures come from.
53:15 – blames CIA, Pentagon and White House infowars for the fact that many of the American people don’t have their facts straight. Ah, so the reason there’s so many errors in Terrorstorm is cause the CIA got to Jones…or maybe Jones is one of Them himself…
53:35 – Shayler claims MI6 funded Al Qaeda in plot to assassinate Gaddafi.
55:22 – Shayler then seems to backtrack slightly: now it’s sources saying that payments were made to a group in Libya with associations to Bin Laden. This is quite a different thing – many people (some of whom are now viewed as pretty ‘respectable’) have/have had some association with Bin Laden, without being Al Qaeda member.
55:50 – refers to an exclusion zone of several miles around the British parliament, in which free speech isn’t permitted. I presume Jones means the half mile exclusion zone around parliament, where unauthorised demonstrations are banned (
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,11026,1508595,00.html). I think this is a really bad law, but getting the details wrong helps no-one.
59:30 – footage of Jones shouting about how “people in a cave” could not have caused 9/11. Aside from accuracy (Bin Laden wasn’t spending that much time in caves while the events were being prepared, and so far as I know the hijackers didn’t visit any caves while they lived in America) it’s worth noting that people fighting from cave complexes like Tora Bora were able to defeat the Soviet army.
1hr – British police (apparently perfectly politely) take Jones’ details, he says to enrol him into a database of troublemakers. Clearly, this shows how oppressive a government we live under.
Just change the phrase 'David Shayler argues that 7/7 was a false flag operation' to 'David Shayler, who believes in a massive conspiracy lead by multi-dimensional lizard aliens, argues that..."