Alex Jones' "TerrorStorm"

[gumboot]

I have finished watching this rather... interesting documentary.

Below is a point by point summary of the documentary. It is divided into the following sections:

INTRODUCTION
-General expression of the topic and emotive statements

HISTORICAL EXAMPLES OF GOVT. SPONSORED TERRORISM
-Reichstag Fire (Hitler's rise to power)
-Operation Ajax (CIA Coup in Iran)
-Gulf of Tonkin incident (Vietnam War)
-USS Liberty incident (Six Day War)
-Operation Gladio (NATO terror operations)

LONDON BOMBINGS
-Analysis of London Bombings along lines of 9/11

IRAQ
-US and UK forces created sectarian violence and keep it going with false terror attacks.

US POLICE STATE
-Bush above law, 4th amendment, billions spent on paying off journalists, etc.

IRAN INVASION
-Iraq no WMD so Iran no WMD

BACK TO 9/11
-NORAD stand down, no planes launched
-Pakistani ISI
-Invasion of Afghanistan - oil
-Thermite/Thermate (Steven Jones)
-Charlie Sheen
-AA77 pentagon video

CONCLUSION
-Same as intro, look at PR, flouride, "free your mind"

To make this a little easier I think I'll post each section as a separate section, so anyone with info to offer doesn't have to wade through material that relates to other topics.

Again, this is the natural logical progression of 9/11 CT. This video, to a large extent, stands on the foundations of 9/11. Previous work (SLC, Viewers Guide, 9/11 Deniers Speak, Usual Suspects, etc) kicks out a few legs from under this documentary. But there's still a good chunk there. This is a fairly recent documentary, from what I understand - Wikipedia lists its release date as 7/7. I suspect some of this documentary's work will start appearing as supporting evidence for 9/11...

-Andrew

 

[gumboot]

Introduction

It begins with a few statements...

A state of war only serves to maintain domestic tyranny.
-The War on Terror is established to be never ending, against an undefeatable enemy.
-This enables excuses to take away freedoms for generation after generation.
-But who pulls the strings? Who benefits from this "dark spectacle of modern warfare"?
-The government uses fear to control the population.
-Network of modern propaganda machines (modern media) keep people watching pointless entertainment (sport etc...) so they "Stay Asleep".
-Govts through History have used fear to control populations.

-"Most Americans and Westerners believe the official story of 9/11 to be a fraud"
-Evidence for this:
-Screen shot of a CNN website "QuickVote" poll
-"Do you believe there is a US Government cover-up surrounding 9/11?"
-90% say yes (7747 votes)
-10% say no (835 votes)
-Total of 8582 votes

-Large part of this majority believe 9/11 is an inside job.
-The "Establishment Press" (shows Popular Mechanics debunk) contests any alternative view

-Lets look at historic examples of Government sponsored terrorism
-Events are not contested
-Fact of govt sponsored terror not debated
-Openly admitted by western governments
-100's of example in modern history
-Govt. sponsored terror = false flag ops

-Five examples...

TO BE CONTINUED

 

[gumboot]

Historical Examples Of Govt. Sponsored Terror

REICHSTAG FIRE and HITLER'S RISE TO POWER 1933
-Goring did it (this is not debated)
-Vanderlubbe was patsy
-Was found rolling around naked in alley behind Reichstag
-Show trial and executed

-Hitler passed laws similar to Patriot Act which made Hitler dictator
-"Operation Himmler" excuse to invade Poland
-Concentration Camp prisoner dressed in Polish uniform and shot in German village - evidence of Polish invasion, justified war

OPERATION AJAX - CIA COUP IN IRAN 1953
-CIA and MI6 overthrow democratically elected leader Mossadegh.
(Because he denied BP monopoly of oil fields)
-US carried out terror attacks and blamed them on Iranian leader
-Grandson of FDR ran Ajax
-Involved:
*Propaganda
*Demonstrations
*Bribery
*Agents of Influence
*False Flag Ops
*Bombed homes of Religious leaders
*Attacks on Mosques
*Machine gunned civilians

-Shah put in power
-CIA formed Iranian Secret police (SAVAK)
-25 yr reign of terror and torture commenced
-Same techniques used in scores of countries to overthrow governments


OPERATION GLADIO - NATO 'STAY BEHIND' ARMIES 1946 - 1983
-Gladio umbrella for 100s of bombings by Western Intelligence and Nato in:
*Italy
*Western Europe
*Middle East
*Latin America
*Asia

-Italian Govt. and Intelligence had admitted it
-They targetted:
*trains
*buses
*schools
*school buses

-Bologna Massacre
-August 2, 1980
85 dead, +200 wounded


GULF OF TONKIN INCIDENT 1964
-LBJs excuse for an expansion of the covert war in SE Asia
-Tapes show LBJ and McNamara planned to use the staged incident as a pretext to expand the war.
-Navy intel claims the ships were attacked on Aug 4, though the North Vietnamese ships did nothing, even when fired upon


CUBANA FLIGHT 455 OCTOBER 6 1976
-73 dead - worst airline terrorism in western hemisphere until 9/11
-Carried Olympic athletes from multiple countries
-Bombers employed by US Govt - Luis Posada Carriles


USS LIBERTY 1967
-Operation Northwoods planned to hijack aircraft by remote and destroy a US Navy vessel
-LBJ went operational with Northwoods during Six Day War

-Liberty clearly marked as US ship
-14 mi off Israel's coast in International Waters

-IDF Surveillance aircraft clearly identified ship as US
-Attacked by unmarked Mirage aircraft that specifically jammed US radar
-Then Dassault bombers
-Then torpedo boats clearly marked as Israeli
-Torpedo boats strafed crew and life rafts in the water
-Throughout, over-sized US flag was displayed
-Attack went on for hour after hour after hour
-Asked for help from 6th fleet
-2 carriers launched aircraft
-White House recalled fighters
-LBJ came on phone to the Rear Admiral "I want that goddamn ship going to the bottom. No help. Recall the wings."

-A Russian spy ship saw the attack
-Israel withdrew after 3 hrs due to witnesses
-40 years later we know exactly what happened
-JAG falsified warcrime report
-Israeli pilot has gone public - 3x he refused to attack as it was a US ship
-He was ordered to attack under threat of court martial

-LBJ had personal control over the ship and put it in that position
-A back room deal was made with Israel to attack and kill everyone on board
-Attack would be blamed on Egypt
-US would enter war and take over the entire middle east
-"Most highly decorated ship in US history"
-All USS Liberty crew were told they would either be put in prison for life or killed if they told anyone what really happened

I WILL CONTINUE WITH OTHER SECTIONS AT A LATER DATE

 

[defaultdotxbe]

"wake up" "free your mind"

why does it seem that matrix references are among Cters favorite arguments?

 

[Azure]

Holy brain-washed batman.

Alex Jones needs to have some sense knocked into him.

 

[steverino]

Holy brain-washed batman.

Alex Jones needs to have some sense knocked into him.

Alex Jones "gets it." I think he simply found a lucrative radio niche and exploits it. The USS Liberty was a tragic unfortunate incident. I do have my suspicions on the Oklahoma City bombing trial. Too many Taliban connections in OK City at that time.

 

[gumboot]

The 9/11 NORAD stuff introduced at the end is a little eye-opening as it carries LC's implied lack of response a little further.

Both Jones and one of their "experts" (former Labour cabinet minister for Tony Blair) make the authorative assertation that not a single aircraft was put into the air between 0820 when the first hijacking was known, and 0938 when the Pentagon was hit.

Also, on a more straight forward point, I have observed that Jones, Fetzner, and others I would term as the more "experienced" CTers have a very common interview technique.

Once a question is asked they fire into an angry rant, without pause or break, full of emotive speak, but completely failing to answer the question. Thus the interviewer has no chance to interrupt and get them back on track.

They appear to use the same technique when interviewing members of the public - they ask a single question, then interrupt or simply brush aside the response, overriding it with their own endless rant.

-Andrew

 

[Elizabeth I]

"wake up" "free your mind"

why does it seem that matrix references are among Cters favorite arguments?

Because the Matrix is the ULTIMATE conspiracy - and its victims are not only clueless about what's happening, they think they are leading happy productive lives.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Because the Matrix is the ULTIMATE conspiracy - and its victims are not only clueless about what's happening, they think they are leading happy productive lives.

well personally i think its more indicative of the CTers inability to distinguish reality from fantasy

 

[Class]

"wake up" "free your mind"

why does it seem that matrix references are among Cters favorite arguments?

They probably think The Matrix is a documentary.

 

[gumboot]

The London Bombings

This is probably the longest section. It does a 9/11 analysis of the London Bombings. I am hoping there are some Brits amongst us who can shed light on some of it...

-Due to the Iraq war Tony Blair was sure to lose the next election
-Jones announces he went to London himself to investigate
-Cue montage with British national anthem:
*Lots of police
*Video cameras
*Armed police
*London CCTV system
*Soldiers
(just introducing that England is already a Police state?)

-Before we look at London we have to understand Madrid...

MADRID BOMBINGS
-Spanish govt. admits Al Qaeda not involved in bombings
-All bombers were intimately linked to Spanish security services (including the head of the bomb squad)
-Same people who did Madrid also did London

BACK TO LONDON
-4 military grade devices
-Within minutes media were reporting terror attacks
-For over 90 mins after attacks Scotland Yard claimed it was a power outage
-The Metro Police ordered the No.30 bus to leave its normal route and park at Tavistock (sp?) Place
-Only bus the police took special control of
-No stop for the No.30 on that route
-No.30 only bus redirected
-All 4 supposed bombers did not match suicide bomber M.O.
*bought 2 way tickets
*played cricket night before
*had good jobs
*had happy families
*one of them argued about the price of his pass when he bought it

-Scotland Yard said bombers didn't know they had explosives
-The supposed mastermind was a British intelligence asset
-MI6 was hiding him
-A Muslim Sheik in 2001 said he was a double agent

-One eye witness didn't see a bomber or knapsack
-He saw metal pushed up (as if bomb was underneath train)

DE MENEZES
-Michael Meacher as key interviewee
-Menezes shot 8x in head
(original story was 3, then 5, then 8)
-Special army unit "execution style"
-Alex Jones claims he was threatened with arrest just for asking questions outside the station where the shooting occured
-Officials initially claimed all CCTV cameras malfunctioned
-Claimed it was hot (I guess that would make heavy clothing strange) it was actually 60 degrees
-Heavy coat, jumped barrier, ran onto train

-In actuality he had light denim jacket on
-Was stalked for 30 mins from his home to the station
-Military hit team stalked him
-Why?
-Well know if someone has a bomb you don't shoot them or approach them
-He saw something he wasn't supposed to, he knew too much, so they murdered him

-This is all public knowledge
-Still locals make excuses for police
-Israeli minister warned of bombings
-ID cards of all 4 bombers survived unscathed
-One bomber's ID found at two locations
-Only criminal elements of Brit. govt. are capable of staging attacks and engaging in its cover up

-Interview with former MI5 officer David Shayler
-He believes Israel bombed its own embassy in 1994

EXERCISES
-Most govt. employees are decent people
-They are kept in dark by having exercises at exact same time and place as real events
-Oklahoma Bombing - ATF were doing bomb squad terrorism exercise at same time
-9/11 Pentagon running 5 drills, 2 targetting exact same target at exact same time
-This caused NORAD to stand down
-London is no different

-Any govt people caught, can simply claim they were involved in the exercise
-Spy groups like ECHELON will believe any transmissions they pick up are just part of the exercise
-On 7/7 exercise targetting exact same trains and bus at exact same time in exact same locations

-Private sector exercise
-Attacks on underground and mainline stations
-Company offices are next to Jewish centre and lots of US banks so terrorism exercise sensible
-0930 exercise started
-Room full of crisis managers
-Probability of 2 events occuring in 10 year mean (according to insurancy accuary chart)
-1 in 300 tetra gillion
-(3 followed by 41 zeros)

WHO BENEFITS

-Blair polls at lowest point
-Passes laws that:
*Attack the press
*Freedom of Assembly
(Civil Contingencies Act)

-Happened during G8 so Blair and Bush could stand firm and blame Iraq

-Threat on underground lowered in early June despite G8 coming to England on July 7

NEXT SECTION: IRAQ

 

[Pardalis]

"wake up" "free your mind"

why does it seem that matrix references are among Cters favorite arguments?

There's something insulting when they say that, wouldn't you agree? Everytime a Cter comes to me with such lines as "Open your eyes" I want to punch them.

 

[Pardalis]

BTW Gumboot, thanks for this thread. Thanks to you I won't have to watch the film. Just the title makes me ill (quite litterally), I don't think I could stand five seconds watching it.

 

[gumboot]

Iraq

The next section deals with the war in Iraq. As this flows over into the US Police State and an Invasion of Iran, I have put them all together (this section of the documentary is poorly structured).

IRAQ
-Iraq was supposedly invaded for freedom.
-The Pentagon's real plan, from day one, was to carve the country into sections and incite an endless sectarian civil war.
-The intention was to keep Iraq in turmoil as an excuse to build permanent military bases.
-This will bring long term profits to defence contractors.
-The US, Britain, and Israeli defence forces have repeatedly been caught staging terror attacks in Iraq to keep the civil war and violence going.

One example:
-In late September 2005, in Basra
-Two British SAS attack Iraqi police at a checkpoint.
-They are eventually subdued.
-Their car is full of:
*plastic explosives
*automatic weapons
*RPGs
*bomb making material
-They are dressed as Arabs, shooting the police
-In a city wracked by sectarian violence

-Hundreds of British soldiers and dozens of tanks assault the prison to free the SAS soldiers
-Dozens of police are killed and over 150 prisoners escape.

-Bush tried to lure Saddam into war by inticing him to shoot down a UN aircraft
-On Jan 31 2003 Bush tells Blair of his intention to invade and plans to generate an excuse
-They plan to get defectors to claim they saw WMD that didn't exist


POLICE STATE
(This is where it starts to get political)
-Bush paid reporters 1.2 billion in bribes over 2 years
-Bush claims he is above the law (the definition of a dictatorship)
-Torture is OK, and renamed as pressure
-It is OK to torture small children (including sexually) in front of their parents
-Bush signs legislation that hasn't passed congress
-Bush spies on US civilians

-The Fourth Amendment
*'Probable Cause' is required for a search
*Govt claim only 'unreasonable' searches are not permitted

-No freedom of press in Iraq
-If you speak against occupation:
*30 years in prison
*or executed or tortured

-The Pentagon controls every newspaper in Iraq
-PR firms write the stories in the USA

-Billions of $ spent every year paying off reporters
*fake news stories
*fake news casts
-US military is applying tactics to US civilians:
*'info wars'
*siezing the mind of the enemy
*treating the US people like an enemy

-As a result large portions of the US don't have their facts straight

(Things go all over the place here - note a lot is not included as it is purely emotive speech with no substance)

MI6 funded Al Qaeda to assassinate Gaddafi (Leader of Libya) according to Dave Shayler. Date is not given, but "8 years ago" (so 8 years before interview, 2006? - thus 1998?)

-The British government passed a law banning free speech within several miles of parliament

-The terrorist attacks boost support for the government
-Why would terrorists carry out an act that empowers the NWO (based in London, NYC, Washington DC)

(Alex Jones on loudspeaker in London)
"Who has the motive to scare you into submission?"
-Not allowed to protest
"People in a cave had NORAD stand down?"

-PNAC
-British Identity Cards

(Back to the US)
-Federal Govt released guidelines for identifying terrorists:
*Anyone who is "friendly"
*Anyone in levi jeans
*Anyone who mentions the constitution a lot
*people who have road almanacs, atlases, etc.

(And London Again...)
-Free Speech zones created
-Stopping demonstrations
-4+ million cameras in London, people don't notice them
*This is an example of "Double Think" (1984 reference)
*Another example, British interviewee says she would give up liberty for freedom

(America again, out to Bush's Ranch and Cindy Sheehan)
-Asking people "Do you think Iraq attacked us on 9/11?"
-Cindy Sheehan = human face to the war
-American Imperialism
-Greed and Power
-One guy claims WMD were found in Iraq

(Note this section involves Alex Jones "interviewing" (i.e. offloading his theories on) people camped out at Bush's Ranch - many of whom appear to be protesting AGAINST the anti-war protestors). It's a whole heap of the same.same so the notes above are meant as a summary of the general line/mood. They also find Ray McGovern (retired CIA analyst) there, who they talk to a lot - he claims Bush sat in the school room for 30 minutes after being told about the second plane hit)

-The Government lied about WMD in Iraq, therefore there is no reason to believe them about Iran
-Iran is 10 years away from having a nuclear weapon
-The government is creating enemies

-Final bit about the Secret Service blocking off the public road out to Bush's ranch.

NEXT SECTION: BACK TO 9/11

 

[gumboot]

9/11 Revisited

(Talking to Michael Meacher, MP)

-Between 0820 (when it was known the first plane was hijacked) and 0938 (when the Pentagon was hit) not one single US aircraft was put into the air.

-Drills on 9/11 in which NORAD dealt with mock hijackings
-This slowed down response
-If airliners go off course the default position is to shoot them down
-Andrews AFB had a squadron of fighters, none of which were scrambled
-Bush sat with kids for 16 minutes after being told
-'Bush stays for 30 minutes' (Ray McGovern)
-The ISI (Pakistani Intelligence) chief was visiting government officials (he got $100,000 wired to Atta)
-the invasion of Afghanistan was pre-planned
-Oil pipeline
-Secret meeting in Europe, Taliban given choice of "carpet of gold" or "carpet of bombs"
-Professor Steven Jones has done research
*Thermite
*Molten metal
*Fits like a globe with thermite demolition
-Sulphur, potassium, manganese
*all found in variation of Thermite called Thermate used to cut through steel (analogy of hot knife through butter versus cold knife)

-Charlie Sheen has jumped on board
-He has been personally attacked - past brought up, false allegations, etc - slur campaign
-Everyone in Hollywood knows, only Sheen is brave enough (Jones has long bit about Sheen's bravery)

-Gestapo Nazi tactics (via internet blogs) used to discredit and attack truthers
-Govt lied about everything

-AA77 pentago video


CONCLUSION

Some bit about a guy who invented propaganda (Goebbels was a big fan) and was also involved in getting flouride into the water

If you free your mind defeating the globalists will be easy.

FIN

 

[gumboot]

BTW Gumboot, thanks for this thread. Thanks to you I won't have to watch the film. Just the title makes me ill (quite litterally), I don't think I could stand five seconds watching it.

Thanks.

Yes, it was plain awful. I considered giving up a number of times - especially in the last 3rd where the structure fell apart and it became a whole heap of unsupported rants.

This is truely a train wreck of a documentary, but sadly a lot of people will fall for it, I suspect (bear in mind it is a very recent release).

So if any has any info - particularly regarding the laws apparantly passed in Britain, or info on the London CCTV network, feel free to inform the uninformed

I never want to see another piece of video with Alex Jones in it...

-Andrew

 

[Brainster]

This is probably the longest section. It does a 9/11 analysis of the London Bombings. I am hoping there are some Brits amongst us who can shed light on some of it...


-All 4 supposed bombers did not match suicide bomber M.O.
*bought 2 way tickets
*played cricket night before
*had good jobs
*had happy families
*one of them argued about the price of his pass when he bought it

-Scotland Yard said bombers didn't know they had explosives
-The supposed mastermind was a British intelligence asset
-MI6 was hiding him
-A Muslim Sheik in 2001 said he was a double agent

There was quite a bit of speculation that these were "sucker-cide" bombers; that they knew they were carrying bombs but thought the plan was for them to leave their backpacks behind on mass transit and get away.

 

[Darat]

This is probably the longest section. It does a 9/11 analysis of the London Bombings. I am hoping there are some Brits amongst us who can shed light on some of it...

-Due to the Iraq war Tony Blair was sure to lose the next election

Not bothered to check for myself but are they suggesting that the bombs helped Tony Blair win the General Election in May 2005 - i.e. 2 months before the bombings?

 

[gumboot]

Not bothered to check for myself but are they suggesting that the bombs helped Tony Blair win the General Election in May 2005 - i.e. 2 months before the bombings?

SNAP! Heh. That's exactly the sort of information I was looking for.

Yup. Terrorstorm implies the bombings occured just before an election.

By the way, what were the final results of that election, if you remember?

Wait. I can probably look it up. Never mind.

-Andrew

 

[Darat]

SNAP! Heh. That's exactly the sort of information I was looking for.

Yup. Terrorstorm implies the bombings occured just before an election.

By the way, what were the final results of that election, if you remember?

Wait. I can probably look it up. Never mind.

-Andrew

Labour won with a large majority (albeit a reduced large majority).