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Afghanistan

Reading some of Biden's advisors are saying stop all operations and getting out now.
I could not imagine a worse decisioin then leaving Americans behind.
The Dems could kiss 2022 bye if that happens.
 
Today's attack is a terrible tragedy, in a country which has already seen many tragedies.

However, I believe that too many Afghans are fleeing their country, and many of them probably educated.

The Taliban have promised an amnesty, so I think these educated Afghans should remain in their country, help develop the economy and fight for freedom using words, rather than bombs.
 
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Michel H said:
Today's attack is a terrible tragedy, in a country which has aleady seen many tragedies.

However, I believe that too many Afghans are fleeing their country, and many of them probably educated.

The Taliban have promised an amnesty, so I think these educated Afghans should remain in their country, help develop the economy and fight for freedom using words, rather than bombs.
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Yeah, like the Taliban is really trustworthy.........


AMybody trusting the Taliban is a fool, frankly.
 
dudalb said:
Yeah, like the Taliban is really trustworthy.........


AMybody trusting the Taliban is a fool, frankly.
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There are undeniably some risks, but I believe taking some risks for your country and for civilization is better than participating in a possible vicious U.S. conspiracy to try to transform your country into a kind of economic and human rights desert (and hell).

For example:
The Taliban may have seized control of Afghanistan - but for now, the group can't access the country's central bank's nearly $10 billion in reserves, most of which is reportedly held by the Federal Reserve Bank in New York.

Last week, Taliban members attempted to inspect Afghanistan's billions of dollars in foriegn reserves only to be told by officials at the country's central bank, Da Afghanistan Bank, that they could not access it because it was being stored by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in Manhattan, the Financial Times reported.

Regardless, most of the central bank's roughly $9.5 billion in assets were frozen by the US last week after the Taliban swiftly took control of Afghanistan following the stunning collapse of the Afghan government.

"[The Taliban] realize they don't have the expertise they need," Omar Samad, a former Afghan ambassador to Canada and France, told the Financial Times. "They are reaching out to technocrats and renowned Afghans. They know they are going to need these non-Taliban figures in their government."
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(https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/f...w-york-holds-billions-from-afghanistan-2021-8 , I don't know if this link will work for you).
 
Michel H said:
.... I think these educated Afghans should remain in their country, help develop the economy and fight for freedom using words, rather than bombs.
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You should go there and try to convince them.

Do you at least think they should have the choice to stay or go?
 
crescent said:
You should go there and try to convince them.

Do you at least think they should have the choice to stay or go?
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Frankly, I don't even think the Afghans should be allowed to leave their country in these circumstances.

The Taliban should explain to them:"No, you can't go now because your country needs your talents and knowledge. Don't worry, you will be respected, you won't be persecuted".
 
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Michel H said:
Frankly, I don't even think the Afghans should be allowed to leave their country in these circumstances.

The Taliban should explain to them:"No, you can't go now because your country needs your talents and knowledge. Don't worry, you will be respected, you won't be persecuted".
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The Taliban also said Osama Bin Laden didn't do 9/11.
 
One big problem is that the Taliban is not a unified whole that are all on the same page. While there may be Taliban in leadership who realize that they need non-Taliban expertise to run a country, there's a lot of other Taliban whose goal is to plunge the country into the 13th century. There's also still a lot of tribalism going on, and if the Taliban can't access the money they need to pay off tribal warlords, they will find themselves with an active resistance on their hands.
 
The Atheist said:
Many of them might be terrorists pretending to be refugees, too.

How do you know which is which?
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This is a possibility, although there has been no terror attack so far done by an Afghan refugee in a Western country.

I suspect many in developping countries are seeking opportunities to emigrate in a more advanced country. Now some may have found a good pretext.
 
Michel H said:
Frankly, I don't even think the Afghans should be allowed to leave their country in these circumstances.

The Taliban should explain to them:"No, you can't go now because your country needs your talents and knowledge. Don't worry, you will be respected, you won't be persecuted".
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Well, you have shown what you think about individual freedom.
 
shemp said:
One big problem is that the Taliban is not a unified whole that are all on the same page. While there may be Taliban in leadership who realize that they need non-Taliban expertise to run a country, there's a lot of other Taliban whose goal is to plunge the country into the 13th century. There's also still a lot of tribalism going on, and if the Taliban can't access the money they need to pay off tribal warlords, they will find themselves with an active resistance on their hands.
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A lot of Afghanis hate the Taliban because it's pretty much totally Pashtun and Pashtun are widely regarded was being pretty much puppets for the Pakistani Government.
 
Michel H said:
However, in my opinion, the proper way for the U.S. to ensure its security is to stop their absurd support for Israel, not to invade (even more) other countries.
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Of course. Why would I expect anything other than blaming the Jews for Islamic terrorism? Never mind that it’s historically ignorant and without any actual basis in fact. Al Qaeda didn’t really care about Israel. Israel was an afterthought. They cared more about Al Andalus. Think we should give that back to appease them?
 
Michel H said:
The Taliban have promised an amnesty,
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And you believed them? How gullible are you?

so I think these educated Afghans should remain in their country, help develop the economy and fight for freedom using words, rather than bombs.
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I think everyone should always be nice and nobody should ever be mean.

But I’m not stupid enough to think the world actually works that way.
 
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