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Adventures with AE911truth

Doug Plumb said:
Like Hitler & Stalin this government advocates the use of torture and detention without charge. Unlike Hitler and Stalin they have codified it rather than do it in secret and crushing of a childs testicles in front of a childs parents is legal if the president deems it necessary.
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Oddly enough, the crushing of the parent's testicles in front of the child is only legal if a professional clown is present. Go figure.



Unlike Hitler or Stalin this new governemnt will allow the buying and selling of child sex slaves. There are White House lobbyists that lobby for the rights of their minions to use the services of a child sex slave without fear of being prosecuted at home. The UN has reported it, mainstream media has reported it. Keep standing up for the government, but keep your kids a safe distance.
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I recently purchased a large fourteen-year old boy for use as a sex slave. Unfortunately, he drank my liquor, beat the living crap out of me, and stole my money. Am I entitled to a refund?


You people supporting this rediculous version of 9/11 are either working for the secret police or hopelessly brainwashed after watching episodes of Jack Bouer torturing people. Shame on you either way.
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For many of us, it's both. Does that count as double shame?
 
Doug Plumb; said:
As far as me being a Canadian Citizen, the reality is that we will all soon be citizens of the NAU, with virtually all the rights that humanity has fought for over the past 1000 years removed in secret.
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We're gonna need a new flag then. I would suggest a heavily armed kitty cat drinking tequila and pouring maple syrup over a roasted bald eagle.
 
Gravy said:
I welcome our Belgian overlords.
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Oi!

Hey Doug if Jones doesn't deal with conspiracy theories, why does he claim there is no such thing as Global warming, just the sun overheating? Or his claims that the Omagh Bombing in NI in 1998 was carried out by the British Secret Service, a laughably absurd fantasy.
 
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Doug Plumb said:
The above two posts show a greater willingness to discredit those asking questions by any means possible rather than to participate in an inquiry into the truth.

Furthermore, if in fact Osama bin Laden planned and executed these attacks from a cave in Afghanistan then the only thing I am guilty of is being a responsible & inquisitive citizen.

If it turns out that the official version is something that only covers up a great crime then you guys are guilty of that crime as well.

I'm not sure where these folks that constantly voluntarily speak on the governments behalf come from, but surely even the person with a minimum of critical thinking capabilities must recognise that it is the governments job to convince the citizenry of its truthfulness while it is the job of the citizenry to question and to doubt.

Governments are like shepards, they keep their flocks for as long as its profitable to do so. After this point they are lead to the slaughter.

As far as me being a Canadian Citizen, the reality is that we will all soon be citizens of the NAU, with virtually all the rights that humanity has fought for over the past 1000 years removed in secret. If they have their way you will not have the right of representation or the right of habeus corpus when arrested for a crime. This is by definition a dictatorship. The cororations are writing the new laws in secret. This is fascism according to Mousolini who defined fascism as corporatism.

Like Hitler & Stalin this government advocates the use of torture and detention without charge. Unlike Hitler and Stalin they have codified it rather than do it in secret and crushing of a childs testicles in front of a childs parents is legal if the president deems it necessary.

Unlike Hitler or Stalin this new governemnt will allow the buying and selling of child sex slaves. There are White House lobbyists that lobby for the rights of their minions to use the services of a child sex slave without fear of being prosecuted at home. The UN has reported it, mainstream media has reported it. Keep standing up for the government, but keep your kids a safe distance.

You people supporting this rediculous version of 9/11 are either working for the secret police or hopelessly brainwashed after watching episodes of Jack Bouer torturing people. Shame on you either way.
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Doug, don't pretend to be inquisitive when you absolutely refuse to accept the answers that don't confirm your predetermined conclusion.

That's not curiosity- it's not skepticism- it's called being wrong. Notice how you haven't been able to support a single thing you've said- and in fact back out when the evidence is requested? That's not the sign of someone who's done the research due to curiosity.
 
Doug Plumb said:
"Please present me with a single motive which would cause any FDNY worker to murder up to 300 of his colleagues? This is essentially what you are claiming happened."

When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder.
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This is not an answer to the question- it is, however- disgusting and repulsive for you to make this claim.

Is this the official position of the "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth"?

Are all the other members aware of this position?
 
I wasnt expecting quite this level of batflappery from a recruiter for such an esteemed website for professionals as architects and engineers for truth.
Doug really is quite "out there", isnt he?
Doug, does Richard know you have been let out?
 
pomeroo said:
Is it just me, or do they seem to coming out of the woodwork lately?
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It's not just you. Every time some new poster shows up and starts spewing such rabid posts I am reminded of the following:
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?
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http://www.ultimateflame.com/
 
Doug Plumb said:
"Clearly NIST did not misrepresent column size in this report, so as an honest researcher I have to ask you where you got these facts, why you have not even read NCSTAR 1-1 and whether you will admit to being wrong."

"In the interest of accuracy, there is a mistake in that NIST description. It should be 22x52, not 12x52. That's a typo, though, and doesn't figure into their calculations or models."

Funny how these core columns get misrepresented consistently. How about that BBC animation of the collapses - no core even there. The official stories consistently ignored the core or misrepresented its size. Its a pattern of deception.
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We're gonna need a new flag then. I would suggest a heavily armed kitty cat drinking tequila and pouring maple syrup over a roasted bald eagle.
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Is the eagle's head pointing to the left or the right...Thats important ya know
 
I have never discussed my world views on 9/11 with Richard Gage, I simply volunteered to help with the verifications for him. I am in no way a spokesman for him or his site any more than any of the other names listed.

As far as Gage making money from the site, I think that is rediculous, many engineers and architects are supporting the fascist regime and many people who have spoken out against 9/11 have lost their jobs, Ryan & Jones being two examples.
 
SpitfireIX said:
Question to those who've been around here a while. Is Doug Plumb the crankiest "truther" who's ever shown up here? :tinfoil
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He's right up there, but folks like Lyte Trip, Christophera, and TruthSeeker1234 are hard to top. And we've got Rick Siegel of 9/11 Eyewitness posting in another thread today. He and Doug may have been separated at birth. I don't know why Doug doesn't just link to Alex Jones MP3s. He could save himself a lot of typing.
 
SpitfireIX said:
Question to those who've been around here a while. Is Doug Plumb the crankiest "truther" who's ever shown up here? :tinfoil
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He's right up there, but folks like Lyte Trip, Christophera, and TruthSeeker1234 are hard to top. And we've got Rick Siegel of 9/11 Eyewitness posting in another thread today. He and Doug may have been separated at birth. I don't know why Doug doesn't just link to Alex Jones MP3s. He could save himself a lot of typing.
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Doug Plumb said:
As far as Gage making money from the site, I think that is rediculous, many engineers and architects are supporting the fascist regime and many people who have spoken out against 9/11 have lost their jobs, Ryan & Jones being two examples.
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Oh come on!

Ryan was fired for misrepresenting his company, and Jones resigned.

That's like me punching my boss in the face and saying I got fired for being a debunker. Stupid.
 
I'm reminded of a quote from Terry Pratchett about loony handbills: "They were covered with the dense spiky handwriting that identified its owner as an anal retentive with a poor grip"
 
Doug Plumb said:
I have never discussed my world views on 9/11 with Richard Gage, I simply volunteered to help with the verifications for him. I am in no way a spokesman for him or his site any more than any of the other names listed.
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Thanks for clearing that up.

As far as Gage making money from the site, I think that is rediculous, many engineers and architects are supporting the fascist regime
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Ach! Und Speer takes all the credit.

and many people who have spoken out against 9/11 have lost their jobs, Ryan & Jones being two examples.
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Two very bad examples.
 
"Doug, don't pretend to be inquisitive when you absolutely refuse to accept the answers that don't confirm your predetermined conclusion.

That's not curiosity- it's not skepticism- it's called being wrong. Notice how you haven't been able to support a single thing you've said- and in fact back out when the evidence is requested? That's not the sign of someone who's done the research due to curiosity."

Why don't yopu explain a single shred of evidence or suggest a credible motive for Osama bin Laden attacking the USA. the "he hates our freedom" is stupid and the "muslims hate our freedom" is even dumber because they come over here in large numbers and assimilate.

Everything I have said is backed up in easily accessable fact. I'm not doing your homework for you. There is nothing I have said that isn't easily found with a google search.

Pick one thing I have said, anything. Lets see how easy it is to learn about and to verify.
 
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