Adventures with AE911truth

[Doug Plumb]

"Please present me with a single motive which would cause any FDNY worker to murder up to 300 of his colleagues? This is essentially what you are claiming happened."

When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder.

 

[beachnut]

"Clearly NIST did not misrepresent column size in this report, so as an honest researcher I have to ask you where you got these facts, why you have not even read NCSTAR 1-1 and whether you will admit to being wrong."

"In the interest of accuracy, there is a mistake in that NIST description. It should be 22x52, not 12x52. That's a typo, though, and doesn't figure into their calculations or models."

Funny how these core columns get misrepresented consistently. How about that BBC animation of the collapses - no core even there. The official stories consistently ignored the core or misrepresented its size. Its a pattern of deception.

You are not paying attention.

 

[pomeroo]

Obviously, Doug is a candidate for Steven Jones's new training course.

I am informed that if you can show evidence of an IQ lower than 100, the high school diploma requirement will be waived.

 

[pomeroo]

"Please present me with a single motive which would cause any FDNY worker to murder up to 300 of his colleagues? This is essentially what you are claiming happened."

When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder.

Uh, there were huge fires and WTC 7 was expected to collapse.

 

[sleahead]

All these things have been admitted and/or proven to be true.

That statement is pure Alex Jones. It is also a lie.

 

[Gravy]

"Please present me with a single motive which would cause any FDNY worker to murder up to 300 of his colleagues? This is essentially what you are claiming happened."

When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder.

I'll be quoting this. Is this an official position of Architects and Engineers for Truth?

 

[e^n]

"Please present me with a single motive which would cause any FDNY worker to murder up to 300 of his colleagues? This is essentially what you are claiming happened."

When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder.

This is astounding, are you honestly claiming to us that the backing off of the rescue effort for several hours was soley so the FDNY can assist the government in demolishing a building without any clear motive whatsoever?

Is this how you represent your organisation, or are these your personal beliefs? Have you ever discussed this with a firefighter and in what hospital did you wake up?

 

[beachnut]

When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder.

Learn to use the Quote button ----

Architect Richard Gage, AIA

Does AIA know this guy is pushing the lies and misinformation of 9/11 truth? Or is AIA just a junk group who do not care it's members are full of false information on 9/11?

Is everyone at http://www.ae911truth.org/ as challenged on facts on 9/11 as you are?

 

[DGM]

Learn to use the Quote button ----

Architect Richard Gage, AIA

Does AIA know this guy is pushing the lies and misinformation of 9/11 truth? Or is AIA just a junk group who do not care it's members are full of false information on 9/11?

Is everyone at http://www.ae911truth.org/ as challenged on facts on 9/11 as you are?

I think I'll drop Mr Gage an email and find out.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Did anyone ever determine if they are showing the "leaked" blueprints?
If these were obtained through subterfuge or a whislte-blower as the story was originally told, then does AE911 have any rights to those blue prints?

Wouldn't the AIA frown on Gage purloining several hundred drawings and posting them on his web site?

 

[Mashuna]

"Please present me with a single motive which would cause any FDNY worker to murder up to 300 of his colleagues? This is essentially what you are claiming happened."

When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder.

Aside from the inanity of your statement, I notice that you didn't manage to provide a motive. Care to have another go?

 

[Firestone]

...
The best way to learn how the world works is to look up and read "The Report From Iron Mountain". You can learn about global warming and UFO's from that. It wasn't a hoax. It was authenticated by Galbraith.

This can't be for real ...

 

[Doug Plumb]

The above two posts show a greater willingness to discredit those asking questions by any means possible rather than to participate in an inquiry into the truth.

Furthermore, if in fact Osama bin Laden planned and executed these attacks from a cave in Afghanistan then the only thing I am guilty of is being a responsible & inquisitive citizen.

If it turns out that the official version is something that only covers up a great crime then you guys are guilty of that crime as well.

I'm not sure where these folks that constantly voluntarily speak on the governments behalf come from, but surely even the person with a minimum of critical thinking capabilities must recognise that it is the governments job to convince the citizenry of its truthfulness while it is the job of the citizenry to question and to doubt.

Governments are like shepards, they keep their flocks for as long as its profitable to do so. After this point they are lead to the slaughter.

As far as me being a Canadian Citizen, the reality is that we will all soon be citizens of the NAU, with virtually all the rights that humanity has fought for over the past 1000 years removed in secret. If they have their way you will not have the right of representation or the right of habeus corpus when arrested for a crime. This is by definition a dictatorship. The cororations are writing the new laws in secret. This is fascism according to Mousolini who defined fascism as corporatism.

Like Hitler & Stalin this government advocates the use of torture and detention without charge. Unlike Hitler and Stalin they have codified it rather than do it in secret and crushing of a childs testicles in front of a childs parents is legal if the president deems it necessary.

Unlike Hitler or Stalin this new governemnt will allow the buying and selling of child sex slaves. There are White House lobbyists that lobby for the rights of their minions to use the services of a child sex slave without fear of being prosecuted at home. The UN has reported it, mainstream media has reported it. Keep standing up for the government, but keep your kids a safe distance.

You people supporting this rediculous version of 9/11 are either working for the secret police or hopelessly brainwashed after watching episodes of Jack Bouer torturing people. Shame on you either way.

 

[Gravy]

Furthermore, if in fact Osama bin Laden planned and executed these attacks from a cave in Afghanistan then the only thing I am guilty of is being a responsible & inquisitive citizen.

You mean like the Batcave? No, he had a nice house and didn't have to slide down a pole to get to his car.

 

[pomeroo]

Roach Problem

Is it just me, or do they seem to coming out of the woodwork lately?

 

[Gravy]

Unlike Hitler and Stalin they have codified it rather than do it in secret and crushing of a childs testicles in front of a childs parents is legal if the president deems it necessary.

That actually happened at the 2005 White House Easter Egg Hunt. It was horrible. They should change that law.

 

[Gravy]

Is it just me, or do they seem to coming out of the woodwork lately?

They've left the greasy diner and wandered into the exterminator's office next door, where roaches check in but they don't check out (facts).

 

[Firestone]

The above two posts show a greater willingness to discredit those asking questions by any means possibly rather than inquiry into the truth.

Nope.

I am amazed at your statement that "The Report From Iron Mountain" is not a hoax. The story of this "report" is well-documented, the author known.

Nobody tries to discredit you. What I (and I guess the same goes for others here) object to is the constant repetition of long-debunked nonsense, without any acknowledgment of or reply to counterarguments.

Furthermore, if in fact Osama bin Laden planned and executed these attacks from a cave in Afghanistan then the only thing I am guilty of is being a responsible & inquisitive citizen.

Nobody claims that Osama bin Laden planned and executed these attacks from a cave in Afghanistan. The "cave"-thing is a feeble attempt at discrediting the reality you apparently don't like: "Arabs are smart people, they can plan things, they can fly planes, they are not some primitive people in caves".

If it turns out that the official version is something that only covers up a great crime then you guys are guilty of that crime as well.

It's not very nice to accuse people on this forum of multiple murders.

I'm not sure where these folks that constantly voluntarily speak on the governments behalf come from, but surely even the person with a minimum of critical thinking capabilities must recognise that it is the governments job to convince the citizenry of its truthfulness while it is the job of the citizenry to question and to doubt.

I don't care much for the US-government.
People with a minimum of critical thinking capabilities read the various reports and analyze them. They also read the counterarguments put forward by the conspiracists. Until now, all I have seen from the conspiracist doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Governments are like shepards, they keep their flocks for as long as its profitable to do so. After this point they are lead to the slaughter.

Wow! Am I glad that there are no FEMA-death camps in Belgium!

You people supporting this rediculous version of 9/11 are either working for the secret police or hopelessly brainwashed after watching episodes of Jack Bouer torturing people. Shame on you either way.

Well, we all work for the secret police and watch episodes of Jack Bauer torturing people.

 

[DGM]

Governments are like shepards, they keep their flocks for as long as its profitable to do so. After this point they are lead to the slaughter.

No, Governments are a large collection of PEOPLE. Is there a school that all of these people go to to become evil?

 

[uk_dave]

Won't anyone think of the ugly children?