ACORN filmmaker arrested

He seems to be able to post on the conspiracy sub-forum without name-calling. It's some kind of split-personality. Or are the rules just different in Politics?
 
Got that kind of backward, Carlitos. I am quite consistant in my disgust with people who unthinkingly praise morons, whether they be twoofers or right wingers who buy the BS manufactured by punks like the pimp boy and the fat deaf eunuch or Brietbart or Hannity.

Apply at least the same level of critical thinking to your poitical heros that I do to President Obama.

That O'Keefe has produced false evidence that seems to support the right wing's beleif that ACORN is crooked has pushed the buttons that turn off their rational thought processes.

Because he and his slimetrail crew have invented a program of lies to discredit their politicall enemies, I regard the pimp as the moral equivalent of thugs like Rudkowski, Avery, A. Jones and Chris Bollyn.
 
leftysergeant said:
Apply at least the same level of critical thinking to your poitical heros that I do to President Obama.
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This I agree with -- you apply exactly zero critical thinking to both. The former you immediately condemn; the latter you unconditionally worship.
 
Cleon said:
The fanatical hatred some people have of O'keefe is really kind of bizarre; it makes even less sense to me than the tendency for some folks to froth at the mouth over Michael Moore.

Folks, he's a kid with a video camera and delusions of grandeur. He's not some conservative superhero. Relax. Pull the stick out.

Remember Joe the Plumber? No, of course you don't. He was the last conservative nobody-cum-conservative-hero, and you can see how much of a splash he's made lately. Give it another year or two, and O'Keefe will be just as influential.

Calm down.
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Agreed that O'Keefe is a dumb kid with a video camera whose 15 minutes of fame is expiring.
The crash and burn should be fun to watch, though.
 
Wow. That Salon article seems to be long on conclusions about how evil that conference was, and how evil the attendees and organizers are, and short on actual evidence.

What was the conference actually about? Salon doesn't tell you. What was actually discussed? Salon doesn't tell you. What was O'Keefe actually doing there? Salon has some hearsay, but that's about it. Did Salon send a reporter? No. Did Salon corroborate anything? No. Did Salon instead pack the article with namecalling of epic proportions? Why yes, yes they did.

For all the actual, factual reporting in that Salon article, O'Keefe might just as likely been at a run-of-the-mill Republican party fundraiser (which, no doubt, some opinion columnist at Salon would be happy to tell us is an ultra right-wing neo-Nazi organization).

Seriously, with detractors like this Salon.com article, O'Keefe doesn't need me to defend him. Lurker, you should be ashamed of introducing such a thing to a skeptical forum.
 
I'm still curious how this is any different than what 60 minutes has done dozens of times.
 
MikeMangum said:
I'm still curious how this is any different than what 60 minutes has done dozens of times.
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60 Minutes actually confronts people before they go on air with it, and presents film of violations of the law to law enforcement agencies when appropriate. They actually prove stuff.
 
ksbluesfan said:
Salon has a story about O'Keefe

He doesn't seem to love black people. He has attended white nationalist conferences and he was fired for a prank in 2008.
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As I suspected -:from the original story.
O'Keefe, who was still being listed at the time of the forum on the RU Centurion masthead as "Editor at Large" would eventually be fired from the Leadership Institute after he called a Planned Parenthood office pretending to be a donor who only wanted his donation going to aborting black babies, because in his words, "the less black kids out there the better." It was a ruse to catch Planned Parenthood staffers in an embarrassing situation, which it did, but it also embarrassed his employers at the Leadership Institute as well, and they let him go.
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After reading the article, it wasn't a "White Supremacist Forum" and it wasn't run by American Renaissance, but Jared Taylor was one of the panelists. O'Keefe probably had no idea who that was. I can't crucify him for this, but it is the kind of thing he should be (and probably is) embarassed about.

Thanks for the advice GStan - This thread is much more readable now. :)
 
Nothing for O'Keefe to be embarassed about, but someone should be embarassed:

James O’Keefe vs. Max Blumenthal: How the Left Distorts, Invents and Lies

It started with a blog post at something called One People’s Project, in which someone named Daryle Jenkins claimed:
(In 2006) ..there was this white supremacist forum that we had called attention to and eventually attended that featured American Renaissance’s Jared Taylor and National Review’s homophobe extraordinaire John Derbyshire. It was originally supposed to be held at the building of the conservative activist organization Leadership Institute until it was forced to move to another location…..

There was also a photographer there, and lo and behold this picture has surfaced of a now familiar face attending the forum - James O’Keefe.

O’Keefe was manning a table at a forum of suit-and-tie Nazis.

A DC area photographer snapped a photo of O’Keefe as he maintained a literature table near the panelists.
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The photograph that One People’s Project shows as its proof (above) is cropped and just shows O’Keefe from the shoulders up. It doesn’t show that he is sitting at all, let alone at a table, let alone “manning” the table at the event apparently hosted by the Robert Taft Club.

Max Blumenthal — son of Clinton apparatchik “Sid Vicious” Blumenthal — at Salon.com picked up on the story and extrapolated even more:
According to One People’s Project founder Daryle Jenkins, O’Keefe was manning the literature table at the gathering that brought together anti-Semites, professional racists and proponents of Aryanism.
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But Salon wasn’t happy with the headshot that OPP ran, so they cropped his face and photoshopped him in a white suit (surprised it wasn’t a hood and robe):

Within an hour or so the Village Voice got really creative on its media blog and added a little more to the mix:
James O’Keefe, the videographer famous for taking down ACORN (and infamous for trying to take down Senator Landrieu), organized a speaking forum for white supremacists, and was even photographed manning the event’s merchandise table.
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That’s right, we’ve gone from O’Keefe attending the event to O’Keefe manning a literature table to O’Keefe organizing the entire event!

This is what the Left does. This is how they do it.

We would think that Mr. Blumenthal at Salon or Stephen Thrasher at the Village Voice, as responsible reporters, might have called Mr. O’Keefe to get his response to the allegations made in an obscure blog. But no. Instead they ran the story and (in the case of the Voice) actually added new and juicy lies to the myth.

Well, here at Big Journalism we think it’s a good idea to actually seek the truth.

So we spoke with James O’Keefe today. This is what he tells us:

1. He was not “manning a table” at the event
2. He was not involved with the organization or operations of the event.
3. He attended the event with many of his Leadership Institute co-workers since it was right across the street from their building in Arlington, Va., and it was organized by other LI associates.
4. The organizer who is being called a “White Supremacist” is half Jewish and half Korean.
5. One of the panelist was an African-American named Kevin Martin.
6. The event was forced to move to a Georgetown University building in Arlington, not at a cross-burning.

We know all this because we called Mr. O’Keefe and asked him. Which is more than other media outlets have done.

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Mr. Jenkins only produced the name of one witness: David Weigel who, at the time was a reporter with Reason Magazine. We called Mr. Weigel and he denied ever telling Mr. Jenkins that Mr. O’Keefe was “manning the table.” Indeed, he has already gone on record denying he said that.

Here is the story they actually have:

James O’Keefe attended a forum years ago that dealt with race and politics. The forum was located at a Georgetown University building (that’s right, a 21-year-old man attended an event on a college campus). The forum had as one of its three speakers a controversial figure, Jared Taylor, with a track record of making racist statements. He was being debated by two other people including Mr. Martin (taking issue with the racist figure). Mr. Taylor has also appeared with Phil Donohue, Queen Latifa and Paula Zahn on their TV shows to debate race. Are the audience members of the Donohue show racist for sitting and watching that debate?

Honestly, that isn’t much of a story. But… you put Mr. O’Keefe at a table full of racist literature and you say that he was manning the table. And you say you have a picture proving it. And you make it sound like he was one of the organizers of this event. And you call the event a “White Supremacist Conference”. Well… now you’ve got a story.

Only problem: It’s all a lie.
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As you can tell by my posts, I figured as much. The good news is that I no longer see a certain cack-handed senior enlisted man's take on the situation. :)
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
It's ok Lefty, I got this one...

Pimp, slut, maggot, sleazebucket, pimp, pimp, maggot, slut, dirttbag, fat deaf eunuch, shrub.
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I agree. I am shocked, shocked by the use of such language on a respectable forum like this, especially the "fat deaf eunuch" remark. I believe this slur was directed toward Mr. Rush Limbaugh who while obese and deft is not a eunuch.

Mr. Limbaugh you may recall was busted returning from a Caribbean vacation with unprescribed Viagra. A eunuch would have no use for Viagra so Lefty calling Limbaugh a eunuch is not only false and slanderous but possibly un-American as well.

And while my dander is up, may I take issue with calling our 43rd president a "shrub"? While this may simply be a play on "bush," I believe Lefty is suggesting our former president has the intelligence of a potted plant. Again, false and slanderous and possibly un-American.
 
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I believe he meant "deaf", not "deft". Lefty was attacking Limbaugh for having suffered hearing loss as a result of an auto-immune disorder.
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Auto-immune disorder my wrinkly old kundingi. the same thing destroyed both his willy and his ears. It was the hillbilly heroin. That's why he needed to take the puffy pills.

Attacking disabled persons is a well known tactic used by Lefty
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The lard blob gets no sympathy from me for self-inflicted ills, especially after he mouthed off about the death of a man with some actual talent and value to American culture as "just another dead junky."

But this is a derail.

To respond to the comments about the pimp's attendance at an event with certain people holding a perverted view of the importance of race, it is just not all that surprising. The big tent of the neo-conservative moement has room for perverts of many a stripe.
 
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