AA77 FDR Data, Explained

[twinstead]

Hasn't the misplaced arrogance and spittle spewing debate technique already been tried by CIT? Maybe they need a new approach.

 

[jtribby]

Is he really? Does he have a present medical and is he flying FAA flights?

You personally libel the man as "deranged" from behind your screen, but it appears you know nothing about him. Some might call that ignorance and cowardice.

Do you think it is the sign of a stable man who threatens violence on people like he has in the past?

Yeah, there seems to be lies told there as well. Here is the real story.

Why haven't you or Gravy reported Capt Bob to the FAA for his instability? Because you lie, that's why.

Are you paranoid funk? Your sig seems to indicate as such.

Many here claim the "troofers" are paranoid. But it appears the "troofers" are the only people willing to put their name to their claims.

Interesting.

 

[Dog Town]

as it appears Capt Bob is qualified to fly aircraft...

Evidence?

(unlike the lies told on this forum by people who cannot be verified as qualified)

That does not even make sense. You aren't very good at this, are you?

 

[jhunter1163]

Misplaced arrogance ROCKS!

 

[dtugg]

You personally libel the man as "deranged" from behind your screen, but it appears you know nothing about him. Some might call that ignorance and cowardice.

It's only libel if it is not true.

Yeah, there seems to be lies told there as well. Here is the real story.

Why haven't you or Gravy reported Capt Bob to the FAA for his instability? Because you lie, that's why.

Are you paranoid funk? Your sig seems to indicate as such.

Many here claim the "troofers" are paranoid. But it appears the "troofers" are the only people willing to put their name to their claims.

Interesting.

This sure looks like the writings of a well adjusted individual :

Im ready to tear Mark.. the loser who does nothing with his life... to pieces. (in a verbal way)

He took advatage of a friend. Im am going to bend Mark over the coals and have him begging for more...

That is if he accepts. I suspect he will try another tactic.

Mark Roberts is a loser.. plain and simple.. that preys on anyone who questions the govt story (and is about 10 years his junior) I would actually like to get in an official ring with Mark Roberts to break his jaw.. .the loser he is.. .but i will settle for exposing how much of a loser he is with our professional team.


Mark Roberts does deserve to die a traitors death....

"The ultimate test of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and moments of convenience, but where he stands in moments of challenge and moments of controversy.
--Martin Luther King, Jr., 27 January 1965 "

I will not apologize for it this time. I will be there for his death should America fall into Civil War. That is not a threat. .that is a promise.

I defend our Constitution. Mark Roberts makes excuses for changes and dismantling. If he gets in my way of defending our Constitution.. it will be my pleasure to put a bullet in his head to defend our Constitution from enemies foreign or domestic. Mark Roberts is a loser and preys on kids like Dylan Avery. He is a disgrace to America.

This is not a game.. this is not a fad.. this is real life.. this is America on the foundation of law..

(disclaimer: i have read the Constitution. I know it thoroughly. I will not arbitrarily put a bullet into Mark Roberts head based on individual interpretation. I have taken an oath to defend the Constitution and will debate the articles verbally till provoked. When provoked, I will defend the American Constitution till death. I am prepared to die for the integrity of the American Constitution.
-- Rob Balsamo)

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=4467&st=40&p=7807246&#entry7807246

 

[jtribby]

Evidence?

Not sure how to use the FAA airman database? Not surprised.

That does not even make sense. You aren't very good at this, are you?

Please provide one person who claims to be an "aviation professional" on this forum who can be verfied in the FAA Airman database as can the core members from Pilots For 9/11 Truth who are certificated by the FAA.

Since it appears you don't know how to use it, I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.

 

[Dog Town]

Not sure how to use the FAA airman database? Not surprised.

No evidence, noted. You suck at this.

 

[dtugg]

Hey jtribby, did the plane really fly over the Pentagon instead of into it?

 

[jtribby]

It's only libel if it is not true.




This sure looks like the writings of a well adjusted individual :


http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=4467&st=40&p=7807246&#entry7807246

Since we're quoting...

Mark Roberts (and many of his cohorts) continue to cry about a heated exchange from several years ago, cherry pick and spin it up in a poor attempt to discredit when unable to debate the facts.

The fact is, Mark and i have had several heated exchanges. The difference is, i dont cry about it for years. I did apologize to Mark the first time around, but Mark continued to cry about it neglecting to mention the apology each and every time. So, one night during a Super Bowl party (some debunkers claimed i was a 'drunk' because i was drinking at the party, oh the horror..lol), we all had a laugh at Marks expense...

Here is the original post...
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....t&p=7807246

Notice Mark omitted alot of the disclaimers (eg. "in a verbal way") and spun it up as usual. Mark still cries about it to this day.


When attempting to get a debate going live on Air America radio more than a year later, the Host Richard Greene was adamant about getting "opposition" (do a forum search for the Air American Radio thread). I tried to contact Popular Mechanics and the NTSB. They both declined (Popular Mechanics specifically stating they will not be debating 9/11 anymore). So, i decided to scrape the bottom of the barrel in the form of "internet debunkers". All of whom are anonymous, self-proclaimed "experts" (only a handful of about 3 or 4 claim to have experience in aviation). Ron "pomeroo" Weick was the liaison to organize the "debunkers" for the debate. Every single one of Ron's "expert" debunkers declined to debate on air. The most common excuse? "There is nothing to debate". However, that is exactly what they do, day after day, night after night from behind their screens comforted by extremely biased mods who ban any "troofer" while letting their "own" break forums rules constantly by attacking the person instead of the argument. Some of these so-called "experts" are so intimidated to debate, that when they sign up here, they "double up" on the anonymity (creating a different userID than the one they are known for on the web). We had one of our obsessive "detractors" try to claim he was a female college student. lol.. Do a forum search for "ReTreat" and you'll see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

They use the excuse for remaining anonymous because they think "troofers" will come and kill them. And they call us paranoid.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Ron "pomeroo" Weick and i had several recorded exchanges on the phone. This is what he had to say (of many) about my demeanor.


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I just received another call from Rob Balsamo. He was quite civil and impressed me with his sincerity in wanting a substantive debate on the FDR and related matters. I agreed to apologize for lumping him in with Ranke and Marquis and promised I would continue my effort to find opponents for tomorrow's CLOUT.

What can I say? The people here who are qualified to discuss the subject should step up to the plate. There is no satisfactory reason for missing this opportunity to address a fairly large audience.


(as a side note, Ron used to call P4T frauds as he does CIT. I asked him if he knows the name of ANY of his "aviation experts" and/or if they can be verified in the FAA database at faa.gov. He doesnt. So he realized why he could no longer call us frauds and agreed to apologize. Of course Ron spun it up a bit by getting in a jab at Craig and Aldo).

Since none of the "aviation experts" (albeit anonymous) would step up to the plate for debate, i asked Ron to contact NYC Tour Guide and "Debunker Extraordinaire" Mark Roberts (who is now "retired" from the debunking business, been exposed too many times is my guess). Instead of Mark having a civil discussion and letting by-gones be by-gones, Mark elected to send multiple convoluted emails to Richard Greene, once again crying about our heated exchange, trying to get the show canceled (Mark is supposedly from NYC, but appears to cry for years whenever he has a heated exchange on the net and unable to debate facts, go figure). You can find his emails on the site you linked above im sure. He doesnt hide the fact he tried to get the show canceled instead of stepping up to the plate. Ron was highly disappointed in Mark Robert for his poor attempt in trying to get the show canceled instead of stepping up.

I assure you, i have never killed anyone and dont have any intentions of doing so unless its self defense. Matter of fact, i have saved many lives of those who actually tried to kill me and themselves...(im talking about students as im sure the 'debunkers' will try to spin this up, Flight Instructors will appreciate this.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

Bottom line, those who cannot debate the facts, cherry pick quotes, spin them up, and attempt character assassination.

Hope this helps..

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?s=&showtopic=14438&view=findpost&p=10750775

This quote from above stands out...

"Mark Roberts (and many of his cohorts) continue to cry about a heated exchange from several years ago, cherry pick and spin it up in a poor attempt to discredit when unable to debate the facts..... Bottom line, those who cannot debate the facts, cherry pick quotes, spin them up, and attempt character assassination."

I guess Funk and dtugg proved Capt Bob correct.

You guys bring it up because you can't debate the facts of this thread.

As for the person crying about getting this moved to AAH. I hope it stays here as it exposes those who wish to derail instead of tackling the facts. The constant bickering, attempts of derailment, libel, and overall rhetoric from those who claim the NTSB information is filled with errors, speaks volumes.

 

[jtribby]

No evidence, noted. You suck at this.

If you prefer to plug your ears and close your eyes due to your inability to search faa.gov airman database, so be it. But the fact remains, whether you like it or not, Capt Bob is qualified to fly.

I suppose i can copy and paste it here for you, but unless someone is there showing you how to work your mouse and type in faa.gov, you'll think it's fabricated. And even then, you'll think P4T somehow hacked the FAA database, right?

Amateurs....

 

[dtugg]

Hey, it's not our fault that you're defending a psycho.

 

[Dog Town]

If you prefer to plug your ears and close your eyes due to your inability to search faa.gov airman database, so be it. But the fact remains, whether you like it or not, Capt Bob is qualified to fly.

And yet...drum roll...Still no evidence! Surprise!
Hi Capt. Booby!



This is boring. *off to catch fish*

 

[jtribby]

And yet...drum roll...Still no evidence! Surprise!
Hi Capt. Booby!

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This is boring. *off to catch fish*

Typical. Can't even search the source when given.

 

[J. Wellington Wimpy]

I will not apologize for it this time. I will be there for his death should America fall into Civil War. That is not a threat. . that is a promise. [...] If he gets in my way of defending our Constitution.. it will be my pleasure to put a bullet in his head to defend our Constitution from enemies foreign or domestic. This is not a game.. this is not a fad.. this is real life.. this is America on the foundation of law.. [...] (disclaimer: i have read the Constitution. I know it thoroughly. -- Rob Balsamo

All grammar and punctuation sic, incredibly enough.

The inevitable mental image conjured up is of some desperate, attention-starved shlub posing dramatically in front of the cracked full-length mirror by his cot in the "bedroom" his long-suffering parents still think of, privately, as "our old basement crawlspace": shirtless and with fists planted firmly on hips, stomach still pooching visibly over the frayed waistband of his beloved Transformers Underoos bottoms, near-herniating efforts to keep it resolutely sucked in notwithstanding.

In his head -- just over the shrill, hectoring din of the voices -- heroic martial music pounds and swells. Upstairs, in the kitchen, his mother has just finished heating up his standard dinnertime can of Spaghetti-O's, and is ladling them resignedly into his very fav'ritest Little Mermaid bowl.

 

[jtribby]

Hey, it's not our fault that you're defending a psycho.

Again, you may want to notify the FAA as the FAA doesn't give flight medical certificates to psycho's (or drug addicts, in your case).

Edited for Rule 12 violation. Please do not make personal attacks, jtribby.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky

 

[jtribby]

All grammar and punctuation sic, incredibly enough.

Anytime you wish to discuss "AA77 FDR Explained", let us know Wimpy.

So far all you've done is prove Capt Bob correct by attempting derailment through character assassination.

 

[Baylor]

Question for jtribby. Why don't the majority of commercial pilots agree with this melon head?

 

[dtugg]

Again, you may want to notify the FAA as the FAA doesn't give flight medical certificates to psycho's (or drug addicts, in your case).


Also, try cleaning up your apt. What a slob you are! Look at that filthy door! You look like an angry young man. Been awhile since a women came over? Has one ever? lmao...

Wow. You really got me there, Cap'n Bob.

 

[jtribby]

Question for jtribby. Why don't the majority of commercial pilots agree with this melon head?
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Please list the pilots who disagree, then we'll calculate if it's the "majority".

Really, does anyone have critical thinking skills here?

 

[Baylor]

Please list the pilots who disagree, then we'll calculate if it's the "majority".

All the pilots who aren't on your core member list.

Really, does anyone have critical thinking skills here?

Yes.