D'rok
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But, but..the links!....THE LINKS!!!!
AA77 FDR Data, Explained
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But, but..the links!....THE LINKS!!!!
WildCat
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Obviously nothing passed "through" them. Things sure hit them hard enough to crack and spall them, didn't they?
So the debris mass (accompanied by a shock wave from the exploding fuel also), no longer having the power to smash through the columns as it had earlier, bounced of those columns and only cracked and spalled them. Then it hit the much weaker masonry-on-frame wall and punched a hole through it.
All that pic illustrates is the debris causing less and less damage the further into the Pentagon it went because it became less and less energetic, which is exactly what should happen. This is why it's important to know what each part is actually made of, then you wouldn't be so shocked that debris bounced off a reinforced concrete support column and punched a hole in a masonry-on-brick wall.
Do you see why now?
Do you understand it now?
No need, because you should understand it now.
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That was a huge, round exit hole, to have intact beams directly on a line to it be unharmed.
Kinda like shooting a bullet into a phone book, and the back of the phone book has a big hole in it, but the 100 pages before the back are unscathed. Laughable
Any rational person who can look at the damage report, and the exit hole, and swallow the two fitting together needs mental help, ASAP.
Its not round. Anyone who says so is blind as well as stupid.
The beams/columns are not intact, the concrete with steel reinforced beams are damaged. Thats what the steel is for. If they had been just concrete they would probably have been destroyed totally.
The landing gear, regardless of what shape it is, is very very heavy and dense.
Hey...ummm...it does matter!
Your government says AA77 hit the Pentagon.
I'm not disputing whether people died in the Pentagon, or there was an
'attack'.
What I'm saying is, AA77 did not hit the Pentagon. Something else did.
would you like to answer post #1104, and explain how an object passes
through columns?
Wildcat wants me to believe an object that can't pass through closely
spaced columns bounced around like a magic bullet and cut a nice round
hole in the wall.
This just keeps getting better! Is there a pin-ball video game about this
too?
How many bounces did it take!? LMAO
WildCat
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So you do think the cross-section of the columns is drawn to scale on that diagram!
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I have made no claims, you have. To date you have claimed that the FDR found at the Pentagon was planted. You have claimed that the FDR from a second aircraft that flew over the pentagon was released and passed off as being from Flight 77. You have claimed that the lamp posts that were damaged during in the attack were staged and you have now gone on to suggest that the eyewitnesses who saw the plane hit them are wrong, mistaken or lying.
So moving forward. The people who claim to have seen the plane hit the Pentagon. Are they also wrong, mistaken or lying?
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Regardless how roundish it is...what shape should it have been? and why?
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The onus is on you to prove what that "something" was.
Completely irrelevant to anything. Only conspiracy liars harp on this.
His time line is wrong. Why can't you grasp that concept. He places Bush on the way to Louisiana over 30 minutes before the decision was even made.
Which broadcasts in particular?
Our many photo's backed by eyewitness statements trump your 1 backed by nothing. You lose.
The overlay is wrong. Get over it.
Since there is not any FDR data for those seconds, this is meaningless.
It's only inconsistent in your fantasy world.
That fully support the fact that an American Airlines 757 crashed into the Pentagon. So, what's your point?
Which, in reality, supports the fact that AA 77 crashed into the Pentagon. Only conspiracy liars who are protecting their revenue source say different.
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Fool! It should have been coyote-shaped! Didn't you learn anything from Saturday morning cartoons?
So you admit your fellow "intelligent critical thinker poster buddy" is in the dark about the shape of the hole, thats a start.
That hole is 310 feet from the entrance hole...thats over a football field.
Where is the landing gear. That photo was shot very soon after the attack.
Did the landing gear cause that much damage in a reinforced wall and stop, then back up so we couldnt see it. Other photos show no scarring of the floor leading up to that exit hole, its just there.
No damage 30 feet away in the next wall. How could something take out this huge wall section, not continue past it out into the open, and not be visible in any photo's.
Answer, it cant. Its a hoax to show neanderthal's a fake exit hole that somewhat aligns with the fake(AA77 didnt go through it)entrance hole.
In other words, garbage in, garbage out.
Some of you sceptics here, who gulp down the official lie like a bag of cheetos, must truly have a tough time keeping a straight face when forced to look at this stuff and have to wrap your arms around it as truth
Regarding what could have made this"photo op" hole...here is as good an explanation as i have seen...a Rapid wall Breaching Kit...routinely used by the military.
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Yes, that's what I claim. Mistaken. They saw something other than AA77.
Will you please answer my posts now? I think I've been fair enough with you.
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hmmm, is the masonry behind the brick cladding facade perfectly round?
Is this the cayote shaped hole we're supposed to see!? D:
I dont know about you guys.
But after seeing what the Wall breaching charge results are, in the photo i posted, the actual exit hole at the Pentagon, the fact there is NO landing gear in ANY photos anywhere near the hole, added with the fact this hole is a football field away from the impact hole, and that the govt is might quiet explaining this in any report, forces me to apply Occam's Razor to this issue.
Guess what, i dont think landing gear made the hole.
The Govt, i am sure, wishes they had left this hole out of the equation, in hindsight.
Face it, official lie slurpers, you are being tasked with maintaining watertight integrity in a story that has a big screen door full of holes. You havent enough fingers
Q.Is the landing gear visible anywhere around the hole it made?
A. No
Q. Has the landing gear appeared in any photograph that did this damage?
A. No
Q. Could a wall breaching charge do this exact same kind of damage?
a. Yes
Q.Do you have any such examples
A. Yes
Q. Could the wall breaching charge do this damage, yet leave columns undamaged between the entrance and exit holes
A. Yes
Case closed
But after seeing what the Wall breaching charge results are, in the photo i posted, the actual exit hole at the Pentagon, the fact there is NO landing gear in ANY photos anywhere near the hole, added with the fact this hole is a football field away from the impact hole, and that the govt is might quiet explaining this in any report, forces me to apply Occam's Razor to this issue.
Guess what, i dont think landing gear made the hole.
The Govt, i am sure, wishes they had left this hole out of the equation, in hindsight.
Face it, official lie slurpers, you are being tasked with maintaining watertight integrity in a story that has a big screen door full of holes. You havent enough fingers
Q.Is the landing gear visible anywhere around the hole it made?
A. No
Q. Has the landing gear appeared in any photograph that did this damage?
A. No
Q. Could a wall breaching charge do this exact same kind of damage?
a. Yes
Q.Do you have any such examples
A. Yes
Q. Could the wall breaching charge do this damage, yet leave columns undamaged between the entrance and exit holes
A. Yes
Case closed
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I already proved it wasn't AA77. You're just not smart enough to understand
the flight data. That's OK, I understand everyone isn't technically inclined.
I thought the diagrams, and explanations would help you, however some
people learn at slower rates.
Really? An E4-B over the white house just about the time the explosion occured? Didn't the official story say they couldn't get any jets there
in time? No fighters, nothing at all was mentioned. Forget?
Right...so how do you position the overlay to miss the fence, spools, and
ground...but still line up with the entry hole?
Most of you forget about the objects in the path of the hole. Poor research,
or selective theory I guess.
See reply to first point. I'm sorry that you're not on a level to comprehend
the presented data. Even with the last recorded values, it doesn't work out.
Sorry I can't help you further.
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Lots of things in that pic painted with that Boeing green primer too.
hmmm, is the masonry behind the brick cladding facade perfectly round?
Is this the cayote shaped hole we're supposed to see!? D:
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I think you meant that as a question. The reason you don't see any landing gear is because the camera was aimed at the hole, and not at landing gear. The fact that no landing gear is within the frame does not mean that it wasn't there.
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Have you ever been right about anything roundhead?
