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A Thermite/Thermate Question

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GodisEnergy said:
The red chips are definately not fly ash or background contamination.
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Of course they aren't. They're freaking PAINT.

Kevin ryan said that independent labs are looking at the stuff and are conclusive to that its nanothermite.
Either hes lying and these labs will never peer review or confirm the nanothermite.
In which case i will Retract my beleif about its usage.
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He's lying. Wouldn't be the first time, either.

silicon oxides are used in thermite reactions in fact any metal oxides combined with aluminium create a thermite type reaction.
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Total BS. Silica is totally stable, thus would act only to inhibit the reaction. If you know of a thermite formula that has been tested and proven that includes silica, post it or run the risk of being thought a fool.

The byproduct is molten iron, this drips off the steel as its molten and forms spheres.Most of it doesnt build up as residue on the steel beams.Although this was observed, in photos and anaylsis.
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Aluminum oxide produced in the reaction does.
 
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GodisEnergy said:
my point is even wikipedia knows about silicon(IV) Oxide thermite reactions
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How does that support Jones who made up thermite 4 years after 911?

Jones delusions seem to be your delusions. No evidence, just delusional ideas on 911 so you can apologize for terrorists. Neat

If you are holding back your evidence to surprise everyone, now is the time to save your failed ideas with something more than hearsay, lies and fantasy.
 
I never said finding silicon oxide was proof of thermite thats crazy.I was defending against attacks from lefty seargent who said silicon oxide thermite dont exist.

Red chips .
Highly explosive material
Chemical signature of Thermite not paint.

If there is another background material which is this explosive i think we should all be concerned
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GodisEnergy said:
I never said finding silicon oxide was proof of thermite thats crazy.I was defending against attacks from lefty seargent who said silicon oxide thermite dont exist.

Red chips .
Highly explosive material
Chemical signature of Thermite not paint.

If there is another background material which is this explosive i think we should all be concerned
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Your "red chips" have never been shown to be more than paint. They are not "highly explosive" they are reactive nothing more. "Explosive" means noise (from the fast expansion) of gases. Care to point evidence of this out to us?

Hey, where is the results from the "independent verification"?
 
DGM said:
Your "red chips" have never been shown to be more than paint. They are not "highly explosive" they are reactive nothing more. "Explosive" means noise (from the fast expansion) of gases. Care to point evidence of this out to us?

Hey, where is the results from the "independent verification"?
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thewholesoul told me he was sending the material out for verification back in July. I've yet to hear the results. As far as the nanothermite is concerned, if this person is talking of "red paint chips". Sometimes I wonder if it's as mundane as what the exterior surface of the steel already looked like: http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/hsslideshow/wtc_steel.jpg

Nothing I've seen of concerning the use of the compound GIE is suggesting involves anything at the scale of destroying a building.

EDIT: seems AWsmith addressed it in greater detail
 
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A W Smith said:
wrong



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Its PRIMER

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Thank you.

Listen to the moderator.

Here is one of my original post on it. Gravy tried a bait and switch. A shell game. It is all he does.

The metal was tested.

There is no explanation to date.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3851070&postcount=354

Gravy lost that debate.

You're welcome.
 
Homeland Insurgency you pretty much just follow the party line, don't you?
 
Grizzly Bear said:
thewholesoul told me he was sending the material out for verification back in July. I've yet to hear the results. As far as the nanothermite is concerned, if this person is talking of "red paint chips". Sometimes I wonder if it's as mundane as what the exterior surface of the steel already looked like: http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/hsslideshow/wtc_steel.jpg

Nothing I've seen of concerning the use of the compound GIE is suggesting involves anything at the scale of destroying a building.

EDIT: seems AWsmith addressed it in greater detail
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Jones himself said he was sending his samples for "independent evaluation". If this attention whore after a year can't show that he can't separate his results from "background" contamination no one can. This subject is done.
 
DGM said:
Jones himself said he was sending his samples for "independent evaluation". If this attention whore after a year can't show that he can't separate his results from "background" contamination no one can. This subject is done.
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I'm not holding my breath over it being mentioned by him anytime soon either...
 
Grizzly Bear said:
I'm not holding my breath over it being mentioned by him anytime soon either...
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I'm picturing the response he got (if he sent it in the first place).

ARE YOU HIGH? Everything you sent us is background. What exactly are you looking for? (response from a very confused lab)

Jones; "Nano-thermate"?

Lab; ARE YOU HIGH?
 
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Im afraid the chemical signature of the red chips doesnt match paint
,wheres the lead wheres the chromium???
 
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