A Perpetuum Mobile Machina is possible...

shazuga said:
You are in the correct thing, exist many variables that to solve, in the case of the batteries for the movable section a solution would be to excite the electromagnets by means of an arc of energy in the superior part.
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If by an arc you mean to make the electricity jump across the gap without any wiring then you'll get very large energy losses.
 
Freethinker said:
Apparently you aren't aware that when an electrical generator has a load on it, it requires more input power to rotate the shaft.
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The second greatest physics demo I have seen showed this exact effect. Take a handcrank generator hooked up to a standard 60W light bulb. Unscrew the bulb so it is not connected. Turn the crank, and notice that it spins very easily, taking almost no effort. Then have someone else screw in the bulb, and suddenly it becomes extremely difficult to turn the handle.

I think all perpetual motion inventors should try this demo before they attempt to build their invention...
 
shazuga said:
On torque, clear that resistance to the movement exists, in this circular case, ...
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Good, you seem to understand that a generator requires some torque applied to its shaft for it to produce any electricity. Now, the power needed to keep the generator turning is the arithmetic product of the torque and angular speed. This input power will at the very least be equal - this in a perfectly efficient machine - to the generator's output power. So far, your descriptions of the device seem to imply that the power output is greater than the power input, i.e. that energy is created for free.


shazuga said:
... but that energy is substantially inferior not to have friction between surfaces.
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Okay, all this appears to say is that some energy can be saved by reducing friction. That's hardly news.


shazuga said:
And they are right on a thing, and is what I am looking for, I am looking for investing and technicians to construct this device.
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Are you developing a magnetically suspended rotor system in order to reduce mechanical friction? Or are you developing a free energy machine? Or perhaps both of these?


shazuga said:
And while the technology must be used to create energy, this never will be free...
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So, does your device produce more energy than it needs to keep running or not? Your website seems to suggest that it does, while here you suggest that it doesn't.

'Luthon64
 
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shazuga said:
The energy to activate the turbine must thus come from a source like a diesel engine or something, but this is only required to activate the device.
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Any chance you could start with a hand-crank model? You know, a prototype on a smaller scale might cost a lot less to build.
 
hgc said:
Any chance you could start with a hand-crank model? You know, a prototype on a smaller scale might cost a lot less to build.
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Oh don't encourage him - he'll be into Babbage engines next.
 
shazuga said:
And they are right on a thing, and is what I am looking for, I am looking for investing and technicians to construct this device.
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You don't say.

How ever could they have guessed that what you want is money?

But lucky for you, I know where you can get some money. There's this Nigerian bank minister...
 
shazuga said:
Thermodynamics (from the Greek thermos meaning heat and dynamics meaning power) is a branch of physics that studies the effects of changes in temperature, pressure, and volume on physical systems at the macroscopic scale by analyzing the collective motion of their particles using statistics. Roughly, heat means "energy in transit" and dynamics relates to "movement"; thus, in essence thermodynamics studies the movement of energy and how energy instills movement. Historically, thermodynamics developed out of the need to increase the efficiency of early steam engines.

When I talk about thermodynamics I refer the laws that talk about to the heat interchange and the thermoelectrical processes...
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I think your basic problem is the assumption that the word is the theory. Don't be confused because the name of the theory has the word "Thermo-" in it -- this theory is not restricted to HEAT flow. Rather, it describes ENERGY flow, and states that in any closed system energy flow will tend to equalize itself into it's lowest possible state. In other words, any system, without the input of additional energy, will slow down and stop eventually.

Perpetual motion is the idea that a system can be started and will never stop, even without any input of additional energy. This is in contradiction to the theory, and all proofs of said theory. It is as much a "theory" as is the "theory" of gravity -- it is a "theory" in the scientific sense and not the general usage of the word. (A scientific theory is a possible explanation of observed phenomena, and even after such a theory is completely proven it is still called a theory. It's just a word.)

In other words, don't let the common definition of a word mislead you as to what a scientific theory REALLY states. Before you say your system would not rely on "the second theory of thermodynamics" I would suggest you study that theory the same way a scientist would -- mathematically, as opposed to philosophically!

Perpetual motion will never exist. Everything eventually comes to a stop. Even this post.
 
shazuga said:
To make electrical energy by means conventional if we know to do it. On torque, clear that resistance to the movement exists, in this circular case, but that energy is substantially inferior not to have friction between surfaces.
On the generator without friction, Tesla already constructed it, and I do not believe that that factor can prevent that this device is constructed.
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Livermore developed the technology you are talking about to make low-friction flywheel generators. Trains were a second thought. Friction is a component of the load on the shaft, but not a major one. Even if you could make every interfering force (friction, gravity, rotation of the earth) go away without using any energy, you would still require more energy to turn the shaft than you will get out.
 
Shazuga,

I figure if the solar system / universe is more or less perpetual, then yes the machine, circuit etc CAN be also be built. I have read extensively about Nikola Tesla and believe your concept to be possible. I have seen this technology developing and Yes LLNL has been working on it as well as others (but oil greed prevents its development...) Sign me up! I have mucho experience in high power energy systems. I can help. Drop me a private email msg I will give you my contact info. I hope some day we see this work!

lh
 
Of course I will only give my time and expertise! I will only give the labour of love which is worth far more than money. So if you are serious I expect a reply!
I can build just about anything, transformers, circuits, PCB's just to name a few... so drop me a reply. I Have tools, meters, measuring equiptment (high voltage and high power) will work for free for a project of this importance. Just give me the schem's. I even have an NDA that i will sign!! so please reply!!!
 
The statement is correct. If the universe is perpetual, then a perpetual motion machine is possible. Of course, we already know the universe is not perpetual so such a machine is not possible.
 
bjb said:
The statement is correct. If the universe is perpetual, then a perpetual motion machine is possible. Of course, we already know the universe is not perpetual so such a machine is not possible.
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What I meant was, where do you get the idea that the universe is perpetual?
 
To luvhumility:

Thanks for your help... I have already sent him a mail, but in your contact info does not appear none.
You can contact to me through: shazuga at gmail dot com

All the information of my studies is available in:
www dot geocities dot com / shazuga / index dot html
 
bjb said:
The statement is correct. If the universe is perpetual, then a perpetual motion machine is possible. Of course, we already know the universe is not perpetual so such a machine is not possible.
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By conditional logic, If the moon is made of green cheese, then a perpetual motion machine is possible.
 
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¡Qué sería del mundo sin los soñadores! = What would be of the world without the dreamers!

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

Albert Einstein
 
Somebody could respond to me: if the rotor (or turbine) of a generator is electrified?
 
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