9/11: The Smoking Gun

For anyone here still stupid enough to think that it was missiles and not airliners that hit the towers, I'll just leave this here....


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Your line drawing of a B767 is incorrect! Your line drawing shows a pronounced dihedral wing structure
that the Boeing 767-200 series does not have.
Your line drawing only fits in the WTC1 scar because of the dihedral.

This image below is an accurate depiction of a B767 minute dihedral which
does not fit into the WTC1 scar.



The second image is a Boeing 767 nose head-on we with a center focus on the nosecone level in the vertical and horizontal axis.

Note the lack of a pronounced dihedral wing structure your line drawing indicates.





Wing design schematics

The Boeing 767-200 is a "low wing" design-NOT dihedral
YOUR plane does not Fit the WTC1 scar.
 
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Your line drawing of a B767 is incorrect! Your line drawing shows a pronounced dihedral wing structure
that the Boeing 767-200 series does not have.
Your line drawing only fits in the WTC1 scar because of the dihedral.

This image below is an accurate depiction of a B767 minute dihedral which
does not fit into the WTC1 scar.
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/boeing-767-2.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]


The second image is a Boeing 767 nose head-on we with a center focus on the nosecone level in the vertical and horizontal axis.

Note the lack of a pronounced dihedral wing structure your line drawing indicates.



[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Boeing_767_nose.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]

Wing design schematics
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Wing_design_types.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]
The Boeing 767-200 is a "low wing" design-NOT dihedral
YOUR plane does not Fit the WTC1 scar.

Are you joking? Or are you really unable to see the top of the wing is not dihedral in smartcooky's image? The image you provide even has the same darker, thicker lines on the bottom of the wing that his image has.
 
Your line drawing of a B767 is incorrect! Your line drawing shows a pronounced dihedral wing structure
that the Boeing 767-200 series does not have.
Your line drawing only fits in the WTC1 scar because of the dihedral.

This image below is an accurate depiction of a B767 minute dihedral which
does not fit into the WTC1 scar.
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/boeing-767-2.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]


The second image is a Boeing 767 nose head-on we with a center focus on the nosecone level in the vertical and horizontal axis.

Note the lack of a pronounced dihedral wing structure your line drawing indicates.



[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Boeing_767_nose.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]

Wing design schematics
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Wing_design_types.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]
The Boeing 767-200 is a "low wing" design-NOT dihedral
YOUR plane does not Fit the WTC1 scar.

Are you joking? Or are you really unable to see the top of the wing is not dihedral in smartcooky's image? The image you provide even has the same darker, thicker lines on the bottom of the wing that his image has.


Let me whip up my own line drawing, and everything will fit even better. Proof, yo.

This illustrates why we shouldn't use such "evidence" to support legitimate debate.
 
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The line drawing from smartcooky does seem to emphasise the lower edge of the wing shape, possibly that's what's making Fonebone grasp at straws. (The upper edge is there.)


As for Warp12, it's another game of fill in the blanks, portrayed as "I'm the one true skeptic".

i.e. "I am totally not a _________, I'm just saying _________."
 
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The evidence discussed in this video leads directly to the most likely cause, and the most likely suspects, which is probably why it was banned almost immediately on YouTube and Facebook.

The inescapable conclusion is that multiple cruise missiles were launched in broad daylight on 9/11. How they faked the videos is irrelevant to what the physical evidence shows.

This is forensice examination of the evidence we all have access to, but to discuss it is forbidden. I have tried to do just that on this very site in the past, so I'm under no illusions as to how long this post will remain here. Watch it quickly, while you can. 14.29 minutes.

9/11: The Smoking Gun
https://vimeo.com/741646536

Where do you get these lies and pathetically anti-American insane claims?

Why do you make up lies to apologize for 19 Terrorists who murdered thousands of Americans on 9/11?



yankee451 evidence = insane fantasy
 
Your line drawing of a B767 is incorrect! Your line drawing shows a pronounced dihedral wing structure
that the Boeing 767-200 series does not have.
Your line drawing only fits in the WTC1 scar because of the dihedral.

This image below is an accurate depiction of a B767 minute dihedral which
does not fit into the WTC1 scar.
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/boeing-767-2.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]


The second image is a Boeing 767 nose head-on we with a center focus on the nosecone level in the vertical and horizontal axis.

Note the lack of a pronounced dihedral wing structure your line drawing indicates.



[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Boeing_767_nose.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]

Wing design schematics
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Wing_design_types.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]
The Boeing 767-200 is a "low wing" design-NOT dihedral
YOUR plane does not Fit the WTC1 scar.
OOPs, wrong, again...

funny, it was Flight 11 and 175, and when flying the wings bend. Darn, you thought this up now? Was this your big ace in the hole - burned... oh my

Guess why... the wings support the weight of the aircraft... and inflight the wings have what you called... exactly what you called - " pronounced dihedral " - sad to see a 9/11 conspiracy theorists unable to do more than make up BS after being clueless for over 20 years
 
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I don't promote any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories. But the above animation is about as weak as any evidence a truther could come up with. I mean, ridiculously so.

The animation clearly illustrates how once people get invested in a certain belief, their standard of evidence declines. Confirmation bias. It is not uncommon to see similar video "evidence" presented for bigfoot, tbh.

Darn, it was Flight 11 and 175... thus what is wrong with the gif?

Poor yankee451 believes all the videos, all the evidence of it being fligth 175 and 11 are fake, all the eyewitnesses are fake or wrong, the radar data is wrong, the FAA manifests are fake, etc, etc, etc...

A line art of a 767 does fit the damage, and it is evidence, just like video, radar, and DNA from crew and passengers.

When seeing the damage, what can fit, a 767 in flight can do the damage... in fact, you can use physics to confirm and estimate the speed/energy involved based on the mass of the 767 and specification of the steel at that position in the WTC.
 
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Your line drawing of a B767 is incorrect! Your line drawing shows a pronounced dihedral wing structure
that the Boeing 767-200 series does not have.
...
The Boeing 767-200 is a "low wing" design-NOT dihedral
YOUR plane does not Fit the WTC1 scar.
Next time, learn about Flight, and Aerodynamics


On the Ground...


In the Air...

You should see how much the wings bend on a T-38 pulling Gs at MACH 1...

who did 9/11 in the fantasy world of 9/11 conspiracy theories you seem to support believe - guess the Missile claims, insane as they are, too far out for you.
 
Your line drawing of a B767 is incorrect! Your line drawing shows a pronounced dihedral wing structure
that the Boeing 767-200 series does not have.
Your line drawing only fits in the WTC1 scar because of the dihedral.
The Boeing 767-200 is a "low wing" design-NOT dihedral
YOUR plane does not Fit the WTC1 scar.


Dear, oh dear, oh dear! What a sad little misinformed twoofer you are. You really do lack observational skills of any kind (a typical trait for a twoofer). Your research skills are similarly lacking (another twoofer trait). Furthermore, your knowledge of Aeronautical Engineering is almost non existent, as indicated by the fact that you fail to understand the terms "low-wing" and "dihedral" are not mutually exclusive. In fact, almost ALL modern jet airliners (Boeing 7xx series, Airbus Axxx series), are both low-wing and have a dihedral wing design (and FYI most high-wing aircraft such as the Antonov An-124, 224, Boeing C-17, Lockheed C-5, C-141, Airbus A400M) have an anhedral wing design.


https://modernairliners.com/boeing-767/

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A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... and you have very little knowledge. But just to add to Beachnut's post, I am now going to tear your ignorant BS to shreds.

Your problem here is that you understand nothing about aerodynamics or flight dynamics. If you did, you would have realized that the specified dihedral angle is the upwards angle of the wing AT THE WING ROOT at the center of the wing spar... when the aircraft is STATIONARY ON THE GROUND. But as I am sure you will have failed to notice, the wings of an airliner droop downwards when its parked (and you can even see that in the head-on on photo you posted). However, because the wings of an airliner are flexible, the whole wing flexes upwards in flight because of the force imparted on it by lift. On a 767-200, the whole wing outboard of the engine visibly bends upwards as its speed increases, and the faster it flies, the more the upwards it bends. At 430 knots, which is the speed Flight 175 hit the south tower, the bending upwards of the wings causes the wingtip to be as much as nine feet "higher" than they are when on the ground and stationary - that is over 11% of the (single) wing length!!!. Additionally, Flight 175 was in a left bank at impact, and which causes the wings to bend even more due to the differential between G-forces on the fuselage and the wind resistance on the wingtips. I calculated as accurately as possible the effect of the speed and turn when I was drawing the diagram.

You can now consider yourself thoroughly debunked. If you want to continue to argue about aircraft with someone who has had a career in Aviation (and a degree in Aeronautical Engineering to go with it) then bring it on... I love dishing out botty-smackings to ignorant twoofers! You will, of course, be at somewhat of a disadvantage because your only source of information is "Googleversity", whereas I still have all the manuals and text books I had during my training and career, and they contain information that will extremely difficult, if not impossible to find online.

As Jay Utah once said, "You can Google for information, but you can't Google for experience"
 
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2. I would contest your "large majority of members, or viewers, they would not know this context" statement. The large majority would see the title of the thread and who the OP was, and steer the hell clear.
Count me in that group for sure.
 
Where do you get these lies and pathetically anti-American insane claims?
It's fun (from Europe) to watch the US truthers push their anti-US beliefs. Well, except when they are clearly pro-Russian, e.g. posting Russia Today links; then the irony part (and thus the fun) is gone.
 
The evidence discussed in this video leads directly to the most likely cause, and the most likely suspects, which is probably why it was banned almost immediately on YouTube and Facebook.

The inescapable conclusion is that multiple cruise missiles were launched in broad daylight on 9/11. How they faked the videos is irrelevant to what the physical evidence shows.

This is forensice examination of the evidence we all have access to, but to discuss it is forbidden. I have tried to do just that on this very site in the past, so I'm under no illusions as to how long this post will remain here. Watch it quickly, while you can. 14.29 minutes.

9/11: The Smoking Gun
https://vimeo.com/741646536

This was a waste of my time in 2006.
 
Apologies in advance for not reading the thread, but has the OP returned to address the comments so far, or has he simply dropped yet another Steving pile of De'ak and scurried off?

Thanks in advance.
 
Your line drawing of a B767 is incorrect! Your line drawing shows a pronounced dihedral wing structure
that the Boeing 767-200 series does not have.
Your line drawing only fits in the WTC1 scar because of the dihedral.

This image below is an accurate depiction of a B767 minute dihedral which
does not fit into the WTC1 scar.
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/boeing-767-2.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]


The second image is a Boeing 767 nose head-on we with a center focus on the nosecone level in the vertical and horizontal axis.

Note the lack of a pronounced dihedral wing structure your line drawing indicates.



[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Boeing_767_nose.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]

Wing design schematics
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Wing_design_types.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds[/qimg]
The Boeing 767-200 is a "low wing" design-NOT dihedral
YOUR plane does not Fit the WTC1 scar.

I’m not printing these off to measure, but I don’t see the difference you do. Can you quantify it?
 
Apologies in advance for not reading the thread, but has the OP returned to address the comments so far, or has he simply dropped yet another Steving pile of De'ak and scurried off?

Thanks in advance.

You got it, seagull posting.
 
Video is a smoking gun for a fantasy yankee can't let go... irony in title

The evidence discussed in this video leads directly to the most likely cause, and the most likely suspects, which is probably why it was banned almost immediately on YouTube and Facebook.

The inescapable conclusion is that multiple cruise missiles were launched in broad daylight on 9/11. How they faked the videos is irrelevant to what the physical evidence shows.

This is forensice examination of the evidence we all have access to, but to discuss it is forbidden. I have tried to do just that on this very site in the past, so I'm under no illusions as to how long this post will remain here. Watch it quickly, while you can. 14.29 minutes.

9/11: The Smoking Gun
https://vimeo.com/741646536
"9/11: The Smoking Gun" video is the "smoking gun" you have a fantasy based on a yet to be defined issue with reality.

Irony in Titles...
 

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