Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[000063]

All of the weapons in the OP require line of sight.

Someone in another thread asked you about line of sight for Wood's space lasers, and as I recall you ignored them. Natch.

 

[twinstead]

The existence of energy weapons disproves the claim that they don't exist. You want a link for that? I don't get it.

Nobody here that I have see has denied energy weapons exist. What is denied, and rightfully so, is that an energy weapon exists that can do what you attribute to it.

 

[Hokulele]

If you look closely at the hole at the top, you see a big chunk of it curled upwards and outwards. That part wasn't smashed down, and the rest of it didn't really look smashed down to me, either. It look warped.

You see all kinds of little blowouts with edges curled outwards. Not damage from a falling object.

"Didn't really look smashed down to me"?

Heh. You are funny.

 

[WTC Dust]

Do you really need to ask?

You smell something "funny" and this means no-planes and supa DEWs?

No, it doesn't. If you paid close attention to my timeline, you'd understand. I will specify.

Day 0 - 9/11
Day 2 - Tracy arrives home and smells the smell
Day 3 - Tracy views Ground Zero for the first time, or actually just really whatever was visible above a ten foot fence, which wasn't much.
Day 100 - Tracy still smells the smell and swore that nobody would ever convince her that the smell was an ordinary fire
Year 3.5 - Tracy hears about no planes
Year 4.5 - Tracy finds out about Judy Wood
Year 5 - Tracy decides in favor of no planes
Year 8 - Tracy dumps TV video fakery in favor of 3D projected image
Year 8 - Tracy collects her first dust sample and decides it was metallic foam

What should be obvious is that I was on the case for years before I heard a darn thing about no planes or even considered the idea. Same with Judy Wood. In the early years, I was working without the benefit of Dr. Wood's wisdom.

 

[thedopefishlives]

That's actually a good point, Joe. I reiterate that I wouldn't have posted this thread except several JREFers denied the existence of energy weapons.

That is the biggest straw man I have ever seen. And if hanging out on the conspiracy theories subforum has taught me one thing, it's that there are some mighty big straw men out there.

 

[Dash80]

Check out this picture of a dump truck. I don't see anyone actively adding things to the dump truck. It looks like they put the stuff in there and left. Then the stuff is fuming. You can see the fumes. There isn't anyone adding things to the dump truck when the picture was taken, so I don't think it was being stirred up. I think the fumes are rising from the material placed in the dump truck.[T/QUOTE]

Why do you always confuse "smoke" and "fumes?"

When was this taken?

 

[WTC Dust]

Nobody here that I have see has denied energy weapons exist. What is denied, and rightfully so, is that an energy weapon exists that can do what you attribute to it.

Oh, ok. Good to know.

 

[Bell]

Check out this picture of a dump truck. I don't see anyone actively adding things to the dump truck. It looks like they put the stuff in there and left. Then the stuff is fuming. You can see the fumes. There isn't anyone adding things to the dump truck when the picture was taken, so I don't think it was being stirred up. I think the fumes are rising from the material placed in the dump truck.

When was this picture taken?
What was the content of that dump truck?
What were the wind conditions on that day?

 

[Dash80]

No, it doesn't. If you paid close attention to my timeline, you'd understand. I will specify.

Day 0 - 9/11
Day 2 - Tracy arrives home and smells the smell
Day 3 - Tracy views Ground Zero for the first time, or actually just really whatever was visible above a ten foot fence, which wasn't much.
Day 100 - Tracy still smells the smell and swore that nobody would ever convince her that the smell was an ordinary fire
Year 3.5 - Tracy hears about no planes
Year 4.5 - Tracy finds out about Judy Wood
Year 5 - Tracy decides in favor of no planes
Year 8 - Tracy dumps TV video fakery in favor of 3D projected image
Year 8 - Tracy collects her first dust sample and decides it was metallic foam

What should be obvious is that I was on the case for years before I heard a darn thing about no planes or even considered the idea. Same with Judy Wood. In the early years, I was working without the benefit of Dr. Wood's wisdom.

Year 11: Tracy continues to peddle crap and support lunatics.

 

[phunk]

Check out this picture of a dump truck. I don't see anyone actively adding things to the dump truck. It looks like they put the stuff in there and left. Then the stuff is fuming. You can see the fumes. There isn't anyone adding things to the dump truck when the picture was taken, so I don't think it was being stirred up. I think the fumes are rising from the material placed in the dump truck.

You have absolutely no idea how long it was between something being dumped in there and the picture being taken. It could have been days, or it could have been seconds.

 

[WTC Dust]

It hardly seems worth clarifyig the question to someone who's determined to misinterpret it, but I think Dog Town was asking for a link to the posts where JREFers deny the existence of energy weapons.

Dave

That's a lot of work, and it doesn't really matter. As long as nobody's denying the existence of energy weapons, I'm good.

 

[Bell]

You have absolutely no idea how long it was between something being dumped in there and the picture being taken. It could have been days, or it could have been seconds.

Oh yeah...

When was this picture taken?
What was the content of that dump truck?
Eta: When was that content dumped in that truck?
What were the wind conditions on that day?

 

[WTC Dust]

I think it was you who claimed something along the lines that the 'atom bomb' would have been perceived as fantasy even as it was being developed.

That's not my point at all. I said that almost nobody knew about them until after they were deployed.

This is grossly inaccurate though, because physicists were well aware of nuclear fission by 1939. It was discovered in 1938 by Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann , and confirmed by Otto Robert Frisch in 1939. In other words, it was an empirical fact, established by the scientific method, BEFORE any weapon was produced.

By stark contrast, the Judy Wood-style 'magneto-gravitic' weapon system has no basis in known physics. There is no empirical science to back up her (and your sycophantic) claim. The best she can do is make wild guesses while being as vague as possible, using pseudo-scientific processes as her bedrock.

Not even close. It's transparent bafflegab even to a relative layman like me. I love science, I love reading about it, but Judy Wood's proposals are pure cow manure, not science.

Not being a scientist, do you really think that you are a good judge of what is and isn't proper science? Talk about bafflegab.

 

[Dash80]

Oh look Tracy... Curled Bronze!

http://www.gloryshouse.com/item_8058/ACTXR103B-Set-of-2-Curled-Bronze-Beaded-Appliques-1.25.htm

 

[alienentity]

The existence of energy weapons disproves the claim that they don't exist. You want a link for that? I don't get it.

You have not proved that the energy weapon Judy Wood is kinda, sorta proposing (if she's actually proposing anything at all... it's hard to tell) exists at all.

Or are you proposing that one of the 3 known systems you showed was employed on 9/11? Surely not.

 

[Resume]

Check out this picture of a dump truck. I don't see anyone actively adding things to the dump truck. It looks like they put the stuff in there and left. Then the stuff is fuming. You can see the fumes. There isn't anyone adding things to the dump truck when the picture was taken, so I don't think it was being stirred up. I think the fumes are rising from the material placed in the dump truck.

Jesus Christ in a canoe! What the hell could anyone possibly discern from that stupid photo? It looks like a dumpster someone just threw some drywall into; you can't show its provenance so what's the point?

 

[Bell]

Not being a scientist, do you really think that you are a good judge of what is and isn't proper science? Talk about bafflegab.

I think you are on one end of the spectrum. And it's not the "proper" end.

 

[phunk]

It's like "you agree air is dragged along with the plane" all over again.

No one denies that energy weapons exist. Lasers were invented over 60 years ago. What is disputed is that energy weapons exist that can do what you claim was done. Two of the weapons you posted could at most light a fire in the WTC. The third will barely even penetrate human skin, it's designed to make crowds of people uncomfortable so they will disperse.

 

[Craig4]

So why shoot energy weapons and crash planes into a building?

 

[Spindrift]

That's a lot of work, and it doesn't really matter. As long as nobody's denying the existence of energy weapons, I'm good.

There's your problem.

I'm pretty sure no one has denied the existence of energy weapons. What is being denied is that there was any energy weapon in existence in 2001 capable of destroying the towers.