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Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

WTC Dust said:
I'm not a genius when it comes to energy weapons. But I'm darn good in chemistry! Especially the chemistry of smell. I can almost guarantee I know more about that than anyone else posting on JREF. Anyone want to throw down?

I started this thread because in other threads, the existence of energy weapons was denied. And, by the way, ballistic energy weapons are yesterday's technology. Bullets, bombs, cannons, and even hijacked airplanes flown into targets are all ballistic in nature in that they are physical objects sent on a trajectory to a target.

These newer weapons don't send out physical objects. Rather, they use wavelengths of electromagnetic energy to do the damage. You don't have to be an energy weapons specialist to grasp this much or to do a simple google search to find out what different types of energy weapons are out there and commonly understood already.

There are many new types of energy weapons. You might not have heard of all of them; I certainly haven't.
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The cause of the WTC destruction has already been determined, it has been for over a decade.

Your "chemistry of smell" is bogus.
 
Oh this is just sad. This is like trying to prove a second gunman on the grassy knoll by proving guns exists.

Actually it's like trying to prove Godzilla exists by proving lizards exist since the directed energy weapons shown are still in the prototype stage, not fielded yet, and no where near powerful enough to turn a skyscraper into... *laughs* dust.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Last week she said they had pulmonary sarcoidosis, and she alone had established a link between that and iron oxide. (But she just made that up.)

It's like some terrible episode of House.
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Hello! Don't try and bust me in biomedical science, dear.

"Pulmonary sarcoidosis" is a phenomenological term. It means scar tissue in the lungs, and it doesn't specify a causal agent. Siderosis causes pulmonary sarcoidosis. It's not something different.
 
JoeBentley said:
Oh this is just sad. This is like trying to prove a second gunman on the grassy knoll by proving guns exists.

Actually it's like trying to prove Godzilla exists by proving lizards exist since the directed energy weapons shown are still in the prototype stage, not fielded yet, and no where near powerful enough to turn a skyscraper into... *laughs* dust.
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That's actually a good point, Joe. I reiterate that I wouldn't have posted this thread except several JREFers denied the existence of energy weapons.
 
None of the things in the three pictures was capable of doing the fourth. That would require a sooper-seekrit space beam thingee, a thingee for which you've provided zero evidence.

And as an aside, every time a 9/11 conspiracy enthusiasts misrepresents how victims died that day, it is repulsive.
 
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Hokulele said:
What about the ginormous dent/hole in the top?
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If you look closely at the hole at the top, you see a big chunk of it curled upwards and outwards. That part wasn't smashed down, and the rest of it didn't really look smashed down to me, either. It look warped.

You see all kinds of little blowouts with edges curled outwards. Not damage from a falling object.
 
WTC Dust said:
Curled metal parts of The Sphere cannot be produced by an object falling downward onto The Sphere.
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I'VE POINTED OUT SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE *********** SCULPTURE WAS CAST THAT WAY IN THE 1960'S.

EMBIGGENED AND COMIC SANS'ed FOR YOU PLEASURE.
 
WTC Dust said:
http://defense-update.com/20060525_thor-ied.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/...tract-aids-kratos-defense-restructuring-plan/

What do you all think of these energy weapons? One thing that can be concluded is that they exist. Energy weapons exist. They really do.
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Yes -- energy weapons exist. With known capabilities, which agree with known physics.

Battleships exist (although they are all museum ships now). That doesn't mean one of them is now flying through space fighting aliens.
 
WTC Dust said:
The existence of energy weapons disproves the claim that they don't exist. You want a link for that? I don't get it.
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It hardly seems worth clarifyig the question to someone who's determined to misinterpret it, but I think Dog Town was asking for a link to the posts where JREFers deny the existence of energy weapons.

Dave
 
WTC Dust said:
If you look closely at the hole at the top, you see a big chunk of it curled upwards and outwards. That part wasn't smashed down, and the rest of it didn't really look smashed down to me, either. It look warped.

You see all kinds of little blowouts with edges curled outwards. Not damage from a falling object.
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Recently I saw a piece of art that was pretty much a bunch of twisted, bent metal. Did a DEW do this?
 
Check out this picture of a dump truck. I don't see anyone actively adding things to the dump truck. It looks like they put the stuff in there and left. Then the stuff is fuming. You can see the fumes. There isn't anyone adding things to the dump truck when the picture was taken, so I don't think it was being stirred up. I think the fumes are rising from the material placed in the dump truck.
 

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WTC Dust said:
http://defense-update.com/20060525_thor-ied.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/...tract-aids-kratos-defense-restructuring-plan/

What do you all think of these energy weapons? One thing that can be concluded is that they exist. Energy weapons exist. They really do.
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Show us a real-world example of one that could destroy the WTC towers, flip and 'toast' cars, create 'fuming' for years and be completely undetectable. Oh, and that is completely secret, with no descriptions, pictures or theoretical basis known to 21st century physics.

Because that's what you require to support your hypotheses. You and the Grande Dame of Insane 9/11 Conspiracy Claimers, Judy Wood, that is.

I think it was you who claimed something along the lines that the 'atom bomb' would have been perceived as fantasy even as it was being developed. This is grossly inaccurate though, because physicists were well aware of nuclear fission by 1939. It was discovered in 1938 by Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann , and confirmed by Otto Robert Frisch in 1939. In other words, it was an empirical fact, established by the scientific method, BEFORE any weapon was produced.

By stark contrast, the Judy Wood-style 'magneto-gravitic' weapon system has no basis in known physics. There is no empirical science to back up her (and your sycophantic) claim. The best she can do is make wild guesses while being as vague as possible, using pseudo-scientific processes as her bedrock.

Not even close. It's transparent bafflegab even to a relative layman like me. I love science, I love reading about it, but Judy Wood's proposals are pure cow manure, not science.
 
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