Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[WTC Dust]

I guess you've never done that kind of mathematical modeling, then. It's a valid technique.

Ah, so you agree she knowingly makes an entirely invalid argument.

If a financial officer of a corporation said, "We didn't disregard losses, we set the value of cost of operations to zero in order to investigate the profit alone," and had actually done so, he or she would go to prison.

There's nothing criminal about perpetrating the exact same kind of deception in a casual scientific argument, but it's every bit as fraudulent, and (because a lot of barely scientifically literate people are not aware that momentum transfer is never zero in any real-world collision) rather more deceptive.

Fortunately, no one in a position to actually alter the historical narrative of 9/11 will fall for the deception, so no harm is done.

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[WTC Dust]

So what you're saying is that Judy Wood is so monumentally stupid/insane that she decides she can just delete parts of equations that she doesn't like and assume that the equation will still work as normal?

Do you know how to use mathematical modeling as an investigatory technique?

 

[Dash80]

Last year a truther tried to imply this photograph was a staged scene. Can't remember who it was, but they were shown to be foolish when it was pointed out this picture came from the tornado damage in Joplin, Missouri.

I have studied the Joplin damage, it was immense.

This Tornado reached maximum windspeeds of 230-250mph. Parts of the city looked like some kind of nuclear aftermath, just complete devestation.

Cars picked up and wedged into buildings not in the direct damage path and several blocks away, trees stripped of bark, whole streets reduced to rubble.

 

[wishface]

I'm no scientician, nor factologist. For a time the 'truther' view seemed appealing. But what clinches it for me is more of a common sense approach. This isn't me being arrogant, it's just a personal thing. No truther can adequately explain to me why, if you are going to wire up the WTC/Building 7 (itself a nonsense theory) and then blow it up as some 'false flag' event, why bother with securing a bunch of planes and directing them into the buildings? You wouldn't need that, just saying the building was destroyed by bombs placed by terrorists would be enough. So it makes no sense.

 

[hurdygurdy]

Do you know how to use mathematical modeling as an investigatory technique?

By smell and cartoons, perhaps?

 

[Foolmewunz]

What isn't in doubt is that they REPAIRED the building and THEN decided to deconstruct it. That is strange. That is also compatible with a "non-self quenching" mechanism. That is also compatible with me smelling the stench as late as 2009.

In short, you're going to ignore your lies and hope the one person on the earth who still follows your escapades seriously is going to not notice it. You just make stuff up. I have those conversations with myself, too. Most often in the shower at the shaving mirror. Thing is - I don't trot them out as truth until I've checked them out. You just type anything that comes into your head, don't you?

And as for the stench coming from the Deutsche Bank building.... I have to say that I was under the impression that said stench was coming from Ground Zero as all your other "research" seems to indicate that. Now it's from Deutsche Bank? Or did you just discover something on DB and decide to shift that report because it seemed you could cram it into your square-shaped hole of a theory?

Is it your vast knowledge of pharmaceuticals (or experience with same) that has your nose tuned to #11 - Particle Beam Residue Odors? Just what does the "stench" smell like and how does it differ from the smell on setting #14 Auto Exhaust, Construction Site, Diesel Fumes and Backed-Up East River Drainage Pipes Odors? Try us. Surely someone with your communications ability and heavy education can at least describe the smell. I mean, other than personal incredulity. "Well, it just didn't smell right to me." Sort of like your "Something just didn't seem right about the reports that day. Unh huh.

In short, even if one was to take your word for this - over the word of tens of thousands of other people living in the area who do not smell what you claim to smell - just what is your baseline comparison, DOCTOR? You have so much experience with major catastrophes and the results of particle beam weapon attacks that your nose can detect one from 1/3 mile away? With the wind coming from the Hudson 99% of the time? Doctor Blevins, you were smelling Jersey City!

 

[Travis]

The building was being deconstructed because, even with repairs, it was hopelessly contaminated with black mold. The owner of the building wanted it taken down immediately but the insurance company insisted they try to repair and clean it. Eventually the LMDC decided to take over the site and agreed to pay for the deconstruction itself.

The mechanism of deconstruction was interesting as they cleared only the floors immediately below the actual deconstruction work. So just a few floors below the demolition there would have been several floors filled with a maze of plywood, plastic sheeting and other materials. Below that the floors were still largely the same as after abandonment.

 

[000063]

How could anyone else have a reason why you smelled something?

Has you nose been calibrated?

Hee.

 

[Resume]

It seems to me there are plenty of people paying attention to the Deutsche Bank.

 

[phiwum]

The building was being deconstructed because, even with repairs, it was hopelessly contaminated with black mold. The owner of the building wanted it taken down immediately but the insurance company insisted they try to repair and clean it. Eventually the LMDC decided to take over the site and agreed to pay for the deconstruction itself.

Could you provide a reference for this? How did you learn about it?

Thanks.

 

[WTC Dust]

In short, you're going to ignore your lies

Lies? Are you saying they didn't repair the Deustche Bank before finally deconstructing it?

 

[WTC Dust]

Here's the repair job that (apparently) didn't work.

 

[tsig]

What isn't in doubt is that they REPAIRED the building and THEN decided to deconstruct it. That is strange. That is also compatible with a "non-self quenching" mechanism. That is also compatible with me smelling the stench as late as 2009.

Are you a forensic bloodhound?

 

[WTC Dust]

It seems to me there are plenty of people paying attention to the Deutsche Bank.

Not in terms of being evidence of advanced weaponry used on 9/11, they haven't.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Is there any smell of Stachybotris in what you smell?
It can cause brain damage if you are exposed to enough of it.

WTC Dust thinks she was exposed to it for 8+ years.

 

[WTC Dust]

Damage done to The Sphere: Evidence of energy weapons?

If you go to Battery Park on any day and examine The Sphere, you'll notice strange damage to it that is not expected from objects falling onto it.

You'll notice that many of the pieces of the bronze statue have curled up. Falling items can never cause bronze to curl up >360 degrees, as one of the post-damage images shows. Look at the base of the statue in the last pic. Nothing falling could have caused the base to curl up like it did. Energy weapons!

 

[JoeMorgue]

It's not unheard of to have to repair or reinforce part of a building prior to a demolition. Even traditional forms of demolition are more technical then "just knock the building down" and often require preparation work.

The largest controlled demolition in history, the J.L. Hudson Department Store in Detroit, took several months of rehab before it could safely be demolished.

Or maybe they were trying to refurb the building at first and discovered too much interior damage while doing so, so scrapped the project before the sunk cost got too high.

Or maybe they were trying to salvage some parts of the building, interior wiring, fixtures, and so forth, from the building before demolishing it.

There's dozen of possible answers that don't require mythical comic book weaponry farcical foolishness.

 

[WTC Dust]

Also, another good thing about The Sphere is that it gives yet another measure of how tall the pile was at Ground Zero after the attacks. The Sphere is 25 feet tall. Compare it to the pile of damage in the surrounding area.

 

[Dash80]

Stop it, now.

We do not care about your post-bong musings. Please find something better to do with your time.

 

[WTC Dust]

Another good shot of The Sphere, taken some time after the attacks, that shows exactly what I say I saw 72 hours later.

Not many tall pieces of the WTC sticking up. Certainly not a tall pile in the footprint of the WTC buildings. Still, fumes coming up off the pile.