Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

[fuelair]

I see jammonius could not keep away from the thread started by another delusional fan of the incompetent and apparently mentally ill Ms. Wood. Poor things, not only can't they even define what their magic death ray is supposed to be - jammonius couldn't in this thread - they must not do so, because then they would have to do more than wave their hands and tell people what geniuses they are.

They're not. I know and have worked with some very smart people; these folks are not only second-raters, they're not even honest second-raters, since they pretend reality (e.g., aircraft impacts, and hundreds of thousands of tons of recovered structural steel) didn't happen.

Dishonesty and delusion aside, what they're doing does not get as far as "cargo cult science", because it doesn't even take the approximate form of science. It's a lot of handwaving from crackpots desperate for attention, but the real world doesn't notice them enough to laugh at them. They get laughed at here, but they don't deserve even that much attention. And so I'll leave it with a reminder that at least four people (not only R. Mackey, but also myriad, BenBurch, and myself) did the kind of work they are incapable of doing - examining the magic-death-ray promise quantitatively, bounding the problem, and to no rational person's surprise, finding the fantasy to be just that.

The only difference between the magic-death-ray crowd and the disheveled guy ranting to empty air behind the 7-11 is a keyboard and a veneer of education. If it pleases you guys to argue with them, well, it's your time.

The only way I can imagine such a weapon working would be to break the bonds holding molecules or even atoms together - but that process would not create dust - dust particles are gargantuanally larger than atoms or molecules

 

[Oz1976]

4 new from $39.95 and 5 used from $102.19

Hey now, those "used" versions may be hand signed by the author!

 

[tsig]

The only way I can imagine such a weapon working would be to break the bonds holding molecules or even atoms together - but that process would not create dust - dust particles are gargantuanally larger than atoms or molecules

Clearly they used an Atomic Cannon to break the atomic bonds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M65_Atomic_Cannon

 

[Orphia Nay]

You have to be a pretty muddled thinker to believe in an inside job.

To then believe in Judy Wood's theories is to have completely lost the plot.

If her writings make sense to you, it is because you have totally given up on reality.

 

[Bell]

Judy Wood was in a coma. WTC Dust, what's your excuse?

 

[R.Mackey]

Clearly they used an Atomic Cannon to break the atomic bonds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M65_Atomic_Cannon

One thing that's kind of depressing about these fantasies is just how unimaginative they really are...

Back in the day, when it was poor ol' Ace Baker pushing these ideas, it was some kind of beam that converted iron to pure energy (never mind for the moment that iron is the second most difficult of all elements for such nuclear shenanigans), reminding us of science fiction weapons from the 60's.

So now we have this new excuse-er, wrinkle, that the weapon in question doesn't need line of sight on its target... Sure, that will make it easier to construct. Now instead of Larry Niven, it sounds like she's cribbing Howard Tayler, specifically the Longunner of the Apocalypse.

Moral of the story -- if you can't tell whether or not the person you're arguing with is serious, it's probably time to walk away.

 

[Mudcat]

Try to imagine a device that can turn any amount of steel into dust in ten seconds.

I can, actually, and it would almost certainly have to be inside the building to do it. But two buildings with the mass of the WTC? A sizable chunk of New York would likely go missing. And last I heard it was all still there (minus two buildings, which are being rebuilt).

 

[jammonius]

WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? an excerpt

A few pages of posts ago, a request was made for posting of excerpts or commentary on Judy Wood's book, WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?

Generally, I'm not inclined to do someone's homework for them. Those who are interested should, indeed, either buy the book -- assuming they've carefully budgeted expenditure of their UE benefit check -- or, if they haven't done, then GO THE LIBRARY. I'm sure interloan library systems can get it for you. Try it.

Anyway, what I am willing to do is post up an example of the quality, depth and detail the book offers.

Most here are familiar with the meaning of "STAIRWELL B" as that term relates to the WTC complex, right?

How many know where it can be seen or depicted visually?

What else do posters/lurkers know about Stairway B?

Answers: Take a look at Ch.9, pgs 181-184 for a thorough presentation of the significance of Stairwell B to the DEW and DUSTIFICATION proof process.

Oh, one other thing. I'm learning that the Amazon ranking process is subject to volatile changes on a daily basis.

A short while ago, some here acknowledged RESPECT for Dr. Wood when it was revealed her book ranked at 41,000+ which was a far higher ranking than were 3 other widely read 9/11 books (Without Precedent; Ground Truth; and Touching History).

But wait, there's more. As of this posting, WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? has surged far higher in Amazon ranking:


Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #11,452 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

#1 in Books >Professional &Technical >Professional Science >Physics >Electromagnetism >Magnetism
#18 in Books >Politics &Social Sciences >Current Events >September 11

link:

http://www.amazon.com/Towers-Eviden...nology/dp/0615412564/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Small wonder. WDTTG? is a masterpiece.

 

[Bell]

Small wonder. WDTTG? is a masterpiece.

You are easily impressed.

 

[jammonius]

You are easily impressed.

I am not impressed with your post.

 

[Bell]

I am not impressed with your post.

That's because some thought went into it.

 

[fitzgibbon]

You are easily impressed.

A veritable Playd'oh for 9/11 ideas. Soft, easily malleable, takes on new shapes when the old shapes get boring...no intestinal fortitude though. I've never known Playd'oh to retain its composure under pressure

Fitz

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Generally, I'm not inclined to do someone's homework for them. Those who are interested should, indeed, either buy the book -- assuming they've carefully budgeted expenditure of their UE benefit check -- or, if they haven't done, then GO THE LIBRARY. I'm sure interloan library systems can get it for you. Try it.

None of us should have to give Judy Wood a single penny for her work. Nearly 3,000 people lost their lives on 9/11. Thousands more have died fighting Al-Qeada and the Taliban in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If Judy Wood isn't full of @#$%, then I should be able to read her work in the publicly available trial transcripts. If you and her really cared about getting justice for those who died, you would both be posting it everywhere.

But if you care more about money than people, keep insisting we pay for it.

 

[jammonius]

None of us should have to give Judy Wood a single penny for her work. Nearly 3,000 people lost their lives on 9/11. Thousands more have died fighting Al-Qeada and the Taliban in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If Judy Wood isn't full of @#$%, then I should be able to read her work in the publicly available trial transcripts. If you and her really cared about getting justice for those who died, you would both be posting it everywhere.

But if you care more about money than people, keep insisting we pay for it.

Judy Wood has provided the public with an historically significant masterpiece, proving what destroyed the WTC complex on 9/11. The work is available by the usual means, including free public library access for those who prefer that kind of access. For those who wish to have it as their own they may purchase new or used copies, or beg, borrow or steal it, as the saying goes.

By the way, you do not have a monopoly on sympathy for the direct victims of 9/11. Indeed, we all continue to be victimized by the failure of government to either investigate or determine what happened, let alone find the perps.

To the extent your post is an attempt to drape yourself in the flag, take it off. You don't own it. The flag belongs to all of us in equal measure.

Blessings

 

[Bell]

By the way, you do not have a monopoly on sympathy for the direct victims of 9/11. Indeed, we all continue to be victimized by the failure of government to either investigate or determine what happened,

http://www.9-11commission.gov/
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/

let alone find the perps.

The perps are either dead... crushed to a fiery death when flying into buildings or into the ground, taken care of by SEAL Team Six, or they are in jail awaiting their trial.

 

[twinstead]

By the way, you do not have a monopoly on sympathy for the direct victims of 9/11. Indeed, we all continue to be victimized by the failure of government to either investigate or determine what happened, let alone find the perps.

See, there you go again. I'm SICK of people like you claiming that there is no evidence to support the commonly-held narrative, or that it wasn't investigated properly. The evidence is HUGE. The investigation was the largest criminal investigation in US history.

Call it faked, call it whatever you want, just don't sit there and claim it doesn't exist. It is idiotic.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

To the extent your post is an attempt to drape yourself in the flag, take it off. You don't own it. The flag belongs to all of us in equal measure.

Traitors have no claim to the flag.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Clearly they used an Atomic Cannon to break the atomic bonds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M65_Atomic_Cannon

I saw one of those at the Rock Island Arsenal, where my grandfather worked as a civilian engineer in the 1970s. I was in elementary school at the time, and when he told me it was an "atomic cannon," I assumed that the shell was propelled by a nuclear detonation.

 

[BStrong]

judy wood has provided the public with an historically significant masterpiece,fantasy novel proving imagining what destroyed the wtc complex on 9/11. The work is available by the usual means, including free public library access for those who prefer that kind of access. For those who wish to have it as their own they may purchase new or used copies, or beg, borrow or steal it, as the saying goes.

By the way, you do not have a monopoly on sympathy for the direct victims of 9/11. Indeed, we all continue to be victimized by the failure of government to either investigate or determine what happened, let alone find the perps.

To the extent your post is an attempt to drape yourself in the flag, take it off. You don't own it. The flag belongs to all of us in equal measure.

Blessings

ftfy

 

[tsig]

A few pages of posts ago, a request was made for posting of excerpts or commentary on Judy Wood's book, WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?

Generally, I'm not inclined to do someone's homework for them. Those who are interested should, indeed, either buy the book -- assuming they've carefully budgeted expenditure of their UE benefit check -- or, if they haven't done, then GO THE LIBRARY. I'm sure interloan library systems can get it for you. Try it.

Anyway, what I am willing to do is post up an example of the quality, depth and detail the book offers.

Most here are familiar with the meaning of "STAIRWELL B" as that term relates to the WTC complex, right?

How many know where it can be seen or depicted visually?

What else do posters/lurkers know about Stairway B?

Answers: Take a look at Ch.9, pgs 181-184 for a thorough presentation of the significance of Stairwell B to the DEW and DUSTIFICATION proof process.

Oh, one other thing. I'm learning that the Amazon ranking process is subject to volatile changes on a daily basis.

A short while ago, some here acknowledged RESPECT for Dr. Wood when it was revealed her book ranked at 41,000+ which was a far higher ranking than were 3 other widely read 9/11 books (Without Precedent; Ground Truth; and Touching History).

But wait, there's more. As of this posting, WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? has surged far higher in Amazon ranking:
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #11,452 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

#1 in Books >Professional &Technical >Professional Science >Physics >Electromagnetism >Magnetism
#18 in Books >Politics &Social Sciences >Current Events >September 11

link:

http://www.amazon.com/Towers-Eviden...nology/dp/0615412564/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Small wonder. WDTTG? is a masterpiece.

Mission accomplished.