9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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"OTTO OHLENDORF, HEINZ JOST, ERICH NAUMANN, OTTO BASCH"

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The trial transcript is 6,895 pages. Where is the link to that document?

 

[Wroclaw]

Ohlendorf's testimony starts on p. 223.

 

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Yesterday I registered at codoh.com to see what they think of the NYT article. My first post is under review. Let's see.

Apparently another subject that nein11 hasn't heard about: the Arbeitseinsatz. More than 250,000 of his fellow countrymen at a time were forced to work for the German war industry. And another 250,000 have gone into hiding to escape the Arbeitseinsatz.

Those are of course only the numbers for a small country as Holland.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Brand new message from the great European revisionist Faurisson:

http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2011/01/on-fred-leuchter.html

Faurisson pays tribute to Fred Leuchter, whose life was ruined by the youknowwhos. But Leuchter still stands tall. Leuchter recently said:

Much to the dismay of my executioners, the execution was so badly botched that I am able to stand here before you to speak the truth, and to tell the world that it is not myself, but the Holocaust story that is dead. I repeat for the record: I was condemned for maintaining that there were no execution gas chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau, Majdanek, Dachau, Mauthausen, or Hartheim Castle. There’s no proof for the charge, only innuendo, lies, and half-truths. Robert Faurisson, Ernst Zündel and others said this first. They, too, live as victims of botched executions, but nevertheless free to speak the truth in a strong and growing voice that repeats: No gas chambers, no gas chambers, no damn gas chambers!

The holocaustians have given up. Says Faurisson:

The last of the Jewish Mohicans to venture to find proof of “the Holocaust” at Auschwitz publicly relinquished his search on December 27, 2009: he was Professor Robert Jan van Pelt.

At that date the Dutch/Canadian Jew Robert Jan van Pelt confided:

"99 percent of Auschwitz Eyewitness Is Forensically Unsubstantiated"

Here is a holo classic, a debat of 2.5 hours with a sympathetic and polite Danish holocaust orthodoxist. Faurisson wipes the floor with him (2nd link, at the bottom of the page).

 

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Apparently another subject that nein11 hasn't heard about: the Arbeitseinsatz.

If you had paid attention you would have remembered that my own Protestant/Dutch father was deported to work in Germany as well (among the many places he was transported to was Dresden, 2 days after). Arbeitseinsatz indeed. The gist of the article is that Jews were not merely staying in 'extermination camps' at the end of the war but were also found in these thousands of 'hidden factories' scattered all over Germany.

 

[Wroclaw]

Faurisson's an idiot. Jean-Claude Pressac answered his challenge and buried the old man's claims.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Faurisson's an idiot. Jean-Claude Pressac answered his challenge and buried the old man's claims.

Link please. Nobody ever has beaten Faurisson.
Well, not on the intellectual front.
The physical front is a different matter altogether.

 

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Faurisson's an idiot. Jean-Claude Pressac answered his challenge and buried the old man's claims.

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Not to mention his continued support of Leuchter, who ruined his *own* life by trying to pass himself off as an "expert" and then amply demonstrating in open court that he was nothing of the sort rather removes any bit of crediblity he may have had.

Not to mention that his major thesis of "no holes, no Holocaust" has been demonstrated to be complete crap.
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[TSR]

Link please. Nobody ever has beaten Faurisson.
Well, not on the intellectual front.

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And yet another argument from ignorance.

See my post just above.
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[Wroclaw]

Do a Google search on Pressac's name.

Limit your search to mazal.org

You can read his whole book online.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Do a Google search on Pressac's name.

Limit your search to mazal.org

You can read his whole book online.

Come on, nobody in his right mind is going to read a book in response to a forum post. Present an article or a quote from that book making clear why Faurisson is an 'idiot'.

P.S. in real life Faurisson was a professor of literature, with his professional life destroyed by powerful Jewish groups in France. France, after Britain, is the 2nd most Jewish dominated country in Europe. Faurisson nevertheless does not give up. He is a hero. But attacking the H-word head on is maybe not the best strategy. It is better to encircle the H-word by attacking the classical WW1/WW2-stories + 9/11-truth. This can be done without major repercussions for one's career. Once these stories are out in the open, the SS Auschwitz can be torpedoed midship.

 

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Come on, nobody in his right mind is going to read a book in response to a forum post. Present an article or a quote from that book making clear why Faurisson is an 'idiot'.

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Yeah c'mon that's how it's done: quote mine.

Or in 9/11's case mindlessly parrot others' quote mines.

You can't expect zie to actually do anything like real research...

BTW, the proof of Faurisson's idiocy is simple: he still defends the Leuchter Report.

But you wanted a quote, so here it is: " < Faurisson > is not able to understand complex technical or scientific problems."

Now can you find who said it and where?
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P.S. in real life Faurisson was a professor of literature, with his professional life destroyed by powerful Jewish groups in France.

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Jean-Claude Gayssot is not Jewish, nor are that vast majority of French representatives who passed the law Faurisson knowingly and repeatedly violated. Nor are any of the members of the UN Human Rights Commission who upheld not only the law's validity, but its application in this specific case.

Go ahead: claim the UNHRC is "Jewish controlled." That'll be fun.

But then, you haven't read the Act, either so wouldn't realize that it's not a Jewish thing but a racist thing.

But wait, you'd consider that a very bad thing, too, so won't even bother actually trying to understand the thing.

Faurisson's profession life was destroyed by Faurisson.
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France, after Britain, is the 2nd most Jewish dominated country in Europe.

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You can, of course, supply evidence of this?

No?

Quelle surprise.
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Faurisson nevertheless does not give up.

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Nope -- he keeps making the same mistakes, over and over and over, and refuses to correct his errors.
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He is a hero. But attacking the H-word head on is maybe not the best strategy. It is better to encircle the H-word by attacking the classical WW1/WW2-stories + 9/11-truth. This can be done without major repercussions for one's career. Once these stories are out in the open, the SS Auschwitz can be torpedoed midship.

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You've had 60 years, give or take, and *still* have not even made a dent.

You really don't see the lesson to be learned from that?
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BTW, the proof of Faurisson's idiocy is simple: he still defends the Leuchter Report.

He defends Leuchter.

Jean-Claude Gayssot is not Jewish, nor are that vast majority of French representatives who passed the law Faurisson knowingly and repeatedly violated.

Oh, you can be so sneaky. The name of the law is "Fabius-Gayssot law" and Fabius is very Jewish and you know that very well!

Fabius was born in Paris, the son of André Fabius, a wealthy French art dealer of Ashkenazi Jewish extraction

Then you say:

Faurisson's profession life was destroyed by Faurisson.

Indirectly maybe, he could have shut up as Jews prefer, but he choose not too and was repeatedly physically attacked by Jewish thugs and career wise as well. Nevertheless his name will live on as one of the most effective and accurate post war revisionist thinkers.

Then about the Jewish influence in France:

You can, of course, supply evidence of this? No? Quelle surprise. Nope -- he keeps making the same mistakes, over and over and over, and refuses to correct his errors.

Oh, this is too easy. Incredible that you let me make this point!

Here some links on the topic Sarkozy = Mossad agent. And president of France admits he is Jewish... is that enough proof for you that France is Jew-controlled, together with this horrible Fabius-anti-revisionist law?

Sarko admits he is jewish:
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/nicolas-sarkozy-admits-jewish-ancestry

About Mossad infiltration in UMP:
http://www.alterinfo.net/the-truth-life/L-infiltration-du-Mossad-sioniste-dans-l-UMP_a68.html

Sarkozy as CIA asset:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article157821.html

Sarkozy was ex-Mossad secret agent
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/oldsite/article.asp?ID=7586

Jewish/Canadian GlobalResearch:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=7245&context=va

Large amount of info about Sarko's jewishness:
http://geofinancial.blogspot.com/2010/11/le-dangereux-opportunisme-de-nicolas.html

Then about the effectiveness of holocaust revisionism:

You've had 60 years, give or take, and *still* have not even made a dent.
You really don't see the lesson to be learned from that?

You don't seem to want to learn from Galileo:

When he later defended his views in his most famous work, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, published in 1632, he was tried by the Inquisition, found "vehemently suspect of heresy", forced to recant, and spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

The Helio-centric view was generally accepted from the 18th century, meaning decades after Galileo:

Over the course of the 18th and 19th centuries, the status of the Sun as merely one star among many became increasingly obvious. By the 20th century, even before the discovery that there are many galaxies, it was no longer an issue.

But if the current holo pope Jan van Pelt admits, as he did a year ago, that 99% of what supposedly happened at Auschwitz is not backup by evidence and that he as a consequence pleads for destruction of evidence in Auschwitz, then both you and I know that it is game over for The Hoax of the 20th Century.

 

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Oh, you can be so sneaky. The name of the law is Fabius-Gayssot law and Fabius is very Jewish and you know that very well!

Nope. The law is actually officially named with neither man's name. In common parlance, it's called "le loi Gayssot." The only people who tack on Fabius's name are deniers. Says the French Wikipedia:

Cette loi est parfois désignée sous le nom « loi Fabius-Gayssot » (surtout par les négationnistes) ; dans une interview par Phil Sanchez, Robert Faurisson déclare que « nous l'appelons parfois "loi Gayssot", ce qui est le nom d'un communiste, mais parfois nous l'appelons aussi "loi Fabius-Gayssot". Fabius est un juif très riche, il est socialiste mais extrêmement riche. Donc, la loi antirévisionniste de 1990 est une loi judéo-socialo-communiste. » Cette dernière appellation permet aux négationnistes de faire explicitement allusion à une alliance des partis de gauche et des juifs, Faurisson parlant par ailleurs, dans ses Écrits révisionnistes, de « décisions du grand rabbinat entérinées par la République française » (voir critique de cette description par PHDN).

In fact, this name for the law seems to have originated with Faurisson. He's a Jew-hating a-hole.

A final comment and question. First, I would remind our friend that Protestant Europe had fully accepted the notion of a heliocentric universe long before Catholic Europe did. Indeed, Isaac Newton wouldn't have been able to develop calculus with the notion that everything revolved around the earth.

But the question is this: Do you believe everything you read, provided it reflects badly on Jews?

 

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But if the current holo pope Jan van Pelt admits, as he did a year ago, that 99% of what supposedly happened at Auschwitz is not backup by evidence

Nice try, but no cigar.

He didn't say that. He said that most eyewitness testimony is unreliable. He didn't say what happened there (i.e., gassing deaths of a million Jews) is unsupported by evidence. Far from it. And there's a lot more than just eyewitness evidence, since a very small number actually saw gassings and survived the war.

and that he as a consequence pleads for destruction of evidence in Auschwitz, then both you and I know that it is game over for The Hoax of the 20th Century.

Please provide a citation for this libelous allegation about R.J.v.P. calling for destruction of evidence.

 

[TSR]

He defends Leuchter.

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No, he defends and endorses the report.

Stop lying.
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Oh, you can be so sneaky. The name of the law is "Fabius-Gayssot law" and Fabius is very Jewish and you know that very well!

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As has been pointed out, you're wrong about the common name of the law, and you have also provided no evidence for what you consider a slur against Fabius (hint: his mother wasn't, and there is no evidence of his being raised Jewish.)
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Then you say:

Indirectly maybe, he could have shut up as Jews prefer, but he choose not too and was repeatedly physically attacked by Jewish thugs and career wise as well. Nevertheless his name will live on as one of the most effective and accurate post war revisionist thinkers.

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Nope, no evidence of "repeated" attacks, nor any evidence that the *single* attack was by "Jewish thugs."

And yes, he is among the "most accurate" -- which still means demonstrably completely wrong.
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Then about the Jewish influence in France:

Oh, this is too easy. Incredible that you let me make this point!

Here some links on the topic Sarkozy = Mossad agent. And president of France admits he is Jewish... is that enough proof for you that France is Jew-controlled, together with this horrible Fabius-anti-revisionist law?

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Well, since from your *own* link

... raised as a Roman Catholic,

You should really stop posting stuff you have not even read.

You might try actually checking primary sources.

And how much power to "control" France do you believe the President actually has? Free hint: don't ask your denier buddies, they will only lie to you again.

Second hint: learn the difference between the Executive and Legislative branches of the French government and the concept of a "censure motion".

Then get back to us on the various members of Parliament, and what this means to your ignorant claim that Jews control France.
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Then about the effectiveness of holocaust revisionism:

You don't seem to want to learn from Galileo:

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"They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Newton. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."

One notes that you don't even try to address the "doesn't understand" quote. Keep running, so we can all point and laugh. Who said it, and where?
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But if the current holo pope Jan van Pelt admits, as he did a year ago, that 99% of what supposedly happened at Auschwitz is not backup by evidence and that he as a consequence pleads for destruction of evidence in Auschwitz, then both you and I know that it is game over for The Hoax of the 20th Century.

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There is no "holo pope." There is proven historical fact, which one notes you don't care to actually address.

First of all, the Van Pelt report is more than *10* years old, and secondly as has been pointed out, it doesn't say what you have been told it does.

It's available on line, why don't you cite it directly, and in context?

Don't bother to answer, everyone can see it's because you don't *really* care about historical accuracy enough to actually learn the history you hate compels you to deny.
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If you had paid attention you would have remembered that my own Protestant/Dutch father was deported to work in Germany as well (among the many places he was transported to was Dresden, 2 days after). Arbeitseinsatz indeed.

Do you really think I can keep track of all your outrageous claims? Anyway, if it's true that your father worked in the Arbeitseinsatz, I hope he cannot read your posts here - he'd be spinning in his grave.

The gist of the article is that Jews were not merely staying in 'extermination camps' at the end of the war but were also found in these thousands of 'hidden factories' scattered all over Germany.

Duh, you missed Schindler's List? You missed the fact that Auschwitz Monowitz was a labor camp with dozens of satellite camps?

 

[Wroclaw]

Do you really think I can keep track of all your outrageous claims? Anyway, if it's true that your father worked in the Arbeitseinsatz, I hope he cannot read your posts here - he'd be spinning in his grave.


Duh, you missed Schindler's List? You missed the fact that Auschwitz Monowitz was a labor camp with dozens of satellite camps?

And, in fact, only Birkenau, of all the subcamps of Auschwitz, was an extermination camp, although the main camp served for the purpose for a relatively short amount of time.

Most of the people who are famous survivors of "Auschwitz" survived because they were put to work in Monowitz or another subcamp.

 

[Wroclaw]

By the way, it occurs to me that van Pelt has published at least one book on the Holocaust since 1999. See:

http://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-His...5245/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1294508902&sr=8-6

Just because Faurisson declares something it rarely makes it true.

 

[9/11-investigator]

As has been pointed out, you're wrong about the common name of the law, and you have also provided no evidence for what you consider a slur against Fabius (hint: his mother wasn't, and there is no evidence of his being raised Jewish.)

Yawn. Our self-professed Talmud reader (and I believe that he did read the Talmud and owns Bibles and Quran's) pretends that he does not know that in case of Judaism faith and ethnicity can go hand in hand. And if a Jew is being raised 'catholic' (the so-called Marano phenomenon, deception really) one remains jewish. Fabius is jewish. Sarko is jewish. They both act jewish. If I were to convert to Islam, TSR wants us to believe that I stop being ethnocally Dutch, what of course is rubbish.

Nope, no evidence of "repeated" attacks, nor any evidence that the *single* attack was by "Jewish thugs."

In 1 minute I find 3 cases. They are not the only ones.

one two three

two:

Needless to say, the colloquium avoided answering Dr. Faurisson's challenge; rather, the high-minded historian of classical antiquity, Pierre Vidal-Naquet, referred to Dr. Faurisson and his fellow Revisionists as "excrements," and Simone Veil spoke of "clowns." In the courtyard of the Sorbonne, Dr. Faurisson and several of his comrades were attacked and beaten by Jewish thugs for having dared to appear and distribute this challenge.

TSR then wants to know:

And how much power to "control" France do you believe the President actually has? Free hint: don't ask your denier buddies, they will only lie to you again.

Second hint: learn the difference between the Executive and Legislative branches of the French government and the concept of a "censure motion".

Then get back to us on the various members of Parliament, and what this means to your ignorant claim that Jews control France.

The president of France? Power? Influence? Ridiculous. Not more than an average garbage man.

"They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Newton. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."

Cannot remember that Bozo the clown was forced to recant statements of global importance. Or that Galileo or Newton were 'laughed at'. Where did you read that? In that Talmud of yours?

There is no "holo pope."

No kidding! I obviously meant the person who most prominently defends the h-word on a technical level. That is no doubt van Pelt. So if he says things like this 99% quote, then the holocaust industry definitely is facing bankruptcy, would you not gree?

It's available on line, why don't you cite it directly, and in context?

Don't bother to answer, everyone can see it's because you don't *really* care about historical accuracy enough to actually learn the history you hate compels you to deny.

I did post the quote a few posts ago, you must have missed it. You must have gotten tired.