9/11: How they Faked the Videos

yankee451 said:
Hi Matt, well met.

I never said it wasn't live. Ace Baker could't care less.

What I did say, in the op, and numerous times in this thread, and on video, and in interviews, is that the view of the live shots did not show the crash, because the perspectives of the live (almost) shots were from the north side of the north tower. They were filming the hole in the North Tower when the explosion occurred in the south side of the South Tower, therefore, the crash itself was not captured live. What was captured live was a CGI plane flying "behind" the towers, followed by an explosion from the opposite side of the tower that the networks were showing us.

Please try to log it in.

Steve De'ak
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The Chopper4 video was impossible to fake live according to Ace Baker. The camera was moving. The background was too varied. Are you a video production expert? Impossible. Like your missiles.
 
MattNelson said:
The Chopper4 video was impossible to fake live according to Ace Baker. The camera was moving. The background was too varied. Are you a video production expert? Impossible. Like your missiles.
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Matt,

Perhaps you should talk to Ace about it.

It doesn't take a video production expert to figure it out. I am not an expert at anything. I have never claimed otherwise. But it isn't about me, is it? If, as the evidence indicates, missiles were launched, then there are very few ways to have masked them on "live" television. Only one that I can tell.

The fact that none of you will address the merits of my argument, nor explain how the evidence doesn't support my conclusion as well as it supports yours, is just more validation that I'm on the right track. It also is an indication that "the truth" is not high on the priority list of the so called Skeptics.

Steve
 
MattNelson said:
The most complete discussion on the plane engines anywhere is found in my PDF. Again:

http://www.911conspiracy.tv/pdf/Airplane_Debris_WTC_9-11.pdf

Smoking hot engine parts photographed in the street 4 minutes after the 2nd impact were not shot out of the tower by a cannon. Agreed?
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Agreed. How does that engine, which was likely planted by operatives dressed as police (or corrupt law enforcement themselves), change the evidence of the lateral impact of small projectiles? Wouldn't the most likely suspects have thought ahead about planting evidence? Or does that only happen in the movies?
 
yankee451 said:
Matt,

Perhaps you should talk to Ace about it.

It doesn't take a video production expert to figure it out. I am not an expert at anything. I have never claimed otherwise. But it isn't about me, is it? If, as the evidence indicates, missiles were launched, then there are very few ways to have masked them on "live" television. Only one that I can tell.

The fact that none of you will address the merits of my argument, nor explain how the evidence doesn't support my conclusion as well as it supports yours, is just more validation that I'm on the right track. It also is an indication that "the truth" is not high on the priority list of the so called Skeptics.

Steve
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A video production expert couldn't figure it out, Steve. That's what this thread is supposed to be about.

You said "merits." That was awesome.
 
yankee451 said:
Agreed. How does that engine, which was likely planted by operatives dressed as police (or corrupt law enforcement themselves), change the evidence of the lateral impact of small projectiles? Wouldn't the most likely suspects have thought ahead about planting evidence? Or does that only happen in the movies?
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The engine was clearly not planted. What now?
 
MattNelson said:
A video production expert couldn't figure it out, Steve. That's what this thread is supposed to be about.

You said "merits." That was awesome.
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Please try to address that awesomeness by the way. Until you can explain how the evidence does not support my conclusions, and can provide a better explanation for it, I win. All your gyrations, ad hominems, false dichotomies, red herrings, appeals to authority, and whatever other excuses you can come up with, won't change that.
 
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Harebrained. LOL

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Yes, I made this gif.
 
Claims fake Radar, but can't explain how to fake it - wowzer

yankee451 said:
They were selling us planes, but launched missiles. All radar data can be faked, as you, an alleged pilot, already know. Considering the most likely suspects are the people who provided the alleged radar data, why do you think it has merit? Why do you think radar data from the most likely suspects overrides the physical evidence that discredits it?
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Nope, the Radar data is also backed up by video. Making up lies again are you. Yes.

I have an ATP, and it can be verified at the FAA, and has been by other failed 9/11 truth, and 9/11 fantasy authors who post woo like you.

FAA and NTSB Radar data is verified by the very videos you claim are fake but fail to provide evidence how it was done. The eyewitnesses also verify video and Radar.

Have you tried to make up a list of all the people needed to fake the things you made up?

What is sad, you believe this can happen, which means you would do this if you could, fake stuff to support or get your way.

The is no way you can explain how the Radar data is faked, you don't have the technical expertise to explain any of your sick fantasy claims mocking the murder of thousands. It is amazing how you spew this poppycock and have no evidence.

The planted engine is a big clue how failed your claims are. This is the Gish Gallop, you claim missiles, then say the engine is planted, etc, etc, etc, - all without evidence, or explaining the logistical nightmare you invented, adding more people to the fantasy.

Who did 9/11 in yankee451 demented fantasy...
USAF
USAF contractors
Boeing
American Airlines
United Airlines
FAA
NTSB
NTSB contractors
FAA contractors and sub contractors
ATC
ATC controllers
Government, the deep state which exist only in the minds of CTers
ABC
NBC
OMG, FOX news the propaganda minister of trump
CBS
CNN
NPR
Pentagon
WTC staff
NYPD
FDNY
the list goes on
Fake survivors
Fake survivor families and friends
And more
Private citizens with video cameras/phones
Thousand of Americans faked 9/11 according to yankee451 who can't do physics to save him from fantasy so stupid it burns - your burnt
 
yankee451 said:
Golly. You're citing Naudet. Still.

I can see this is a waste of time.
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Oh, come on man! Bring the smoke machine theories! They're more fun than the "fake" mountain of video evidence you have teetering over you.

BTW, I love your equation for determining what is a waste of time. (= anything with video/images proving you wrong)
 
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yankee451 said:
Agreed. How does that engine, which was likely planted by operatives dressed as police (or corrupt law enforcement themselves), change the evidence of the lateral impact of small projectiles? Wouldn't the most likely suspects have thought ahead about planting evidence? Or does that only happen in the movies?
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What about the oxidation flashes on contact with the buildings that couldn't be faked?
 
yankee451 said:
Red herrings abound. Focus, focus...
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I’m merely noting a similarity in approach, not addressing any specific claim you’ve made here. You have plenty of playmates in this thread. But if you’d like to start a thread to talk about your belief that Apollo was faked, I’ll be happy to talk with you there.

ETA: I believe you had made that claim (Apollo being a hoax) on this forum some time ago. If I misremember, please disregard with my apologies.
 
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MattNelson said:
Oh, come on man! Bring the smoke machine theories! They're more fun than the "fake" mountain of video evidence you have teetering over you.
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He already did and then posted a link to where you can buy handheld smoke machines online. Then he speculated that the pentagon has better ones.

As you can see, this is an iron-clad argument. :rolleyes:
 
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