9/11: How they Faked the Videos

[yankee451]

Another lie.

Nope, it's the truth. Anyone can check for themselves.

 

[yankee451]

I have had a look and I can't find it.

I need an answer before I can explain again so that this time I know you are paying attention.

Shocked. Shocked!

 

[Regnad Kcin]

The same simple questions cannot be answered by you in support of your theory, whatever that is. The lateral bends to the steel and the lightly damaged cladding are consistent with the lateral impact of cruise missiles, not the head on impact of a jet. If you could turn to physics to support your conclusion you would. But you don't. What's good for the goose ought to be good for the gander. But it isn't. Why is that?

Shifting the burden of proof.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

No. The evidence doesn't change. Any explanation that also doesn't include an explanation for the dented cladding, which I contend is proof enough that it wasn't caused by a jet wing, and the sharply bent steel, is what you're referring to as hand waving.

I have explained ad nausea that if jets could do that, they probably would have used them. But because they can't do that, they chose to use what could do it. Log that in.

Argument from incredulity.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

A better explanation for the lightly damaged cladding and the sharp, lateral bends to the steel. It would be refreshing to even discuss it.

Shifting the burden of proof.

Thus far, the skeptics have been wrong about the crashes being broadcast live, wrong about where the engine allegedly impacted, wrong about the claim that only the bolted connections were broken, and very wrong about the assumed "thousands of witnesses."

Assumes facts not in evidence.

So you tell me. What more will it take to convince you that you might be mistaken?

”What more?” Oh my.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Why, you don't think certain corrupt members of the police and fire departments might not want to make a few extra bucks for planting plane parts and setting a few derelict cars on fire?

Tell me about your mother.

 

[yankee451]

Tell me about your mother.

I guess this is a red herring fallacy.


My dear mother passed away in November, 2018. You can Google my name, Steve De'ak, and learn all you'd like to know about me and my relatives. You'd get along with Christopher Bollyn, who has done the same. Is this why you don't use your real name and face on the Internet? So that you can say anything you want without fear of repercussions?

 

[yankee451]

Shifting the burden of proof.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Hell yes. The original claim was that a jet cut through a steel building, which the EVIDENCE proves didn't happen. The burden of proof is on the original claimant. I'm just a guy calling BS to it, and providing extraordinary evidence to boot. You guys suck at this.

 

[curious cat]

I guess this is a red herring fallacy.


My dear mother passed away in November, 2018. You can Google my name, Steve De'ak, and learn all you'd like to know about me and my relatives. You'd get along with Christopher Bollyn, who has done the same. Is this why you don't use your real name and face on the Internet? So that you can say anything you want without fear of repercussions?

Very few people are using pseudonyms on internet for a fear of "prosecution" - from the authorities anyway. In the existing climate of identity frauds and idiots calling for actions like "killing chemtrail pilots" (just a random, but very real example I came across lately) there is a good reason for anybody with a bit of common sense not to expose himself to the whole world. Once done, you are losing all control of who and what will do with the information provided. If you do chose to take the risk, it is your and only your decision and I hope you will never have reason to regret it. It certainly doesn't give you any right asking others to do the same or suggesting you are better than they are.

 

[Elagabalus]

Really?

[qimg]https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/WTC2_5th_column_from_left_center_right_with_circle.png[/qimg]

This cladding?

[qimg]https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/WTC2_5th_column_from_left_cladding_with_hole-1024x768.png[/qimg]

Severed?

[qimg]https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/South-Tower-Close-up-with-notations-1024x640.png[/qimg]

Yep. How did that piece come to be situated in between the steel columns? You think it might have undergone some trauma? So we can put down not knowing anything about the rules of perspective to the list of things that you don't know and don't care to look up?

 

[beachnut]

go to NYC and sell this pathetic fantasy to the FDNY and NYPD

Why, you don't think certain corrupt members of the police and fire departments might not want to make a few extra bucks for planting plane parts and setting a few derelict cars on fire?

Have you walked up to the FDNY and NYPD to explain this to them?

If there is one thing that will help unite the NYPD and the FDNY, it would be your fantasy version of 9/11. Lucky for you they are not on this forum.

Lucky for you to be thousand of miles away from those who gave their all on 9/11 and were murdered while doing their duty in NYC. As you make up the dumbest lies, no one is impressed with your disrespect and mockery of the murder of thousands.

The ironic part is you have no clue you are spreading lies dumber than dirt.




BTW, others have been sued for claiming there were no victims to mass shootings. Lucky for you nobody cares about your insensitive lies as long as you don't go more public.

You have offered no rational evidence for fake videos, and never will. The fake video lie is a big Failure.

I guess this is a red herring fallacy.

My dear mother passed away in November, 2018. You can Google my name, Steve De'ak, and learn all you'd like to know about me and my relatives. You'd get along with Christopher Bollyn, who has done the same. Is this why you don't use your real name and face on the Internet? So that you can say anything you want without fear of repercussions?

You know what a red herring is, but you have no clue you are doing a massive Gish Gallop? Why do you lie about 9/11?

 

[Robin]

Shocked. Shocked!

Still stonewalling with weak evasions are you?

If you think that the column can't be damaged even a little bit without severing the cladding all the way through then you are hardly going to understand any explanation.

Why can't you answer?

 

[yankee451]

Very few people are using pseudonyms on internet for a fear of "prosecution" - from the authorities anyway. In the existing climate of identity frauds and idiots calling for actions like "killing chemtrail pilots" (just a random, but very real example I came across lately) there is a good reason for anybody with a bit of common sense not to expose himself to the whole world. Once done, you are losing all control of who and what will do with the information provided. If you do chose to take the risk, it is your and only your decision and I hope you will never have reason to regret it. It certainly doesn't give you any right asking others to do the same or suggesting you are better than they are.

I use my real name and face because I mean what I say. The only people I have a beef with already know everything there is to know about me. I don't have a problem with people who live in fear and think using a pseudonym will protect them, however naive that is, but I have no patience for ad hominem fallacies slung by people who hide behind anonymity. I wasn't asking them to "show themselves" as much as I was mocking them for slinging mud from the shadows.

The skeptics have been wrong about so many things, from which tower they're looking at, to whether the south face of the south tower is visible when looking at the north face of the north tower. They don't admit they're wrong because they don't have to. They won't have to face friends, family and co-workers for their mistakes. They can say anything they want without having to admit error. And they do. Often. Just read the thread. I suspect there would be fewer blowhards here if they proudly signed their names to their screed.

 

[beachnut]

FAILED fake video claims FAIL

Hell yes. The original claim was that a jet cut through a steel building, which the EVIDENCE proves didn't happen. The burden of proof is on the original claimant. I'm just a guy calling BS to it, and providing extraordinary evidence to boot. You guys suck at this.

The burden of proof is on you. You claim witnesses are liars, you claim multiple videos of 175 impact of the WTC is fake. Yet, you failed to prove anything except you made up sick fantasy about 9/11. You can't comprehend Radar data, you can't refute four planes crashed on 9/11. Radar data backs up videos.

You think a 757 at 590 knots can't break the WTC shell designed to stop a 707 at 180 mph. Thus you have no useful or practical knowledge of physics.

You spread lies, and don't know it, and don't care.

 

[yankee451]

Still stonewalling with weak evasions are you?

If you think that the column can't be damaged even a little bit without severing the cladding all the way through then you are hardly going to understand any explanation.

Why can't you answer?

I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. I do know that you don't deserve an answer, regardless.

 

[yankee451]

Yep. How did that piece come to be situated in between the steel columns? You think it might have undergone some trauma? So we can put down not knowing anything about the rules of perspective to the list of things that you don't know and don't care to look up?

It isn't between them. It is protruding in front and to the side of the column it was once attached to. If you see it as "between" columns, please explain, or use the photographs to demonstrate.

 

[beachnut]

Classic projection on steroids

I use my real name and face because I mean what I say. The only people I have a beef with already know everything there is to know about me. I don't have a problem with people who live in fear and think using a pseudonym will protect them, however naive that is, but I have no patience for ad hominem fallacies slung by people who hide behind anonymity. I wasn't asking them to "show themselves" as much as I was mocking them for slinging mud from the shadows.

The skeptics have been wrong about so many things, from which tower they're looking at, to whether the south face of the south tower is visible when looking at the north face of the north tower. They don't admit they're wrong because they don't have to. They won't have to face friends, family and co-workers for their mistakes. They can say anything they want without having to admit error. And they do. Often. Just read the thread. I suspect there would be fewer blowhards here if they proudly signed their names to their screed.

lol, it is funny, it does not matter if people mistake the north tower, or the north face, your claims remain fantasy. There were no missiles used on 9/11, only four planes.

What is the problem, you can't comprehend 19 terrorists from the Middle East able to fake hijackings and use planes as weapons? You can't do simple physics to figure out it is possible for the damage seen on the WTC shells to be made by aircraft, 11 and 175. High School physics proves you wrong, yet you ignore science and cling to fantasy born in ignorance.

Projection. Your post is an excellent example of projection, only trump beats you at project by an order of magnitude.

Learn physics, stop spreading lies. If you are upset about war, do something instead of spreading lies which might mislead the gullible.

 

[beachnut]

It isn't between them. It is protruding in front and to the side of the column it was once attached to. If you see it as "between" columns, please explain, or use the photographs to demonstrate.

oops, videos prove you are a liar


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YLm3pkAiJQ

 

[yankee451]

oops, videos prove you are a liar


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YLm3pkAiJQ

Still no. As explained repeatedly already, not all of those were broadcast live. The ones that WERE broadcast live, or almost live actually, were from the perspective of the north face of the north tower. How do you figure the crash was shown live, when the alleged plane crashed into the south face of the south tower, which was not visible in the live footage. Do your research and, please, stop foaming at the mouth.

 

[Robin]

I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. I do know that you don't deserve an answer, regardless.

This is your lamest evasion yet

For days you refuse to answer. Now you say that my simple question "doesn't deserve an answer" (whatever that is supposed to mean)

So be it, if the question scares you that much then don't answer.

And I don't suppose we will ever get an explanation from you for how a cruise missile could have passed through that small gap.

Because we both know it couldn't possibly.