You present lies as long as they are dumb enough for you to present. You act like a troll and only present lies and failed ideas from the dumbest sources. You are the perfect poster who only posts delusions, hearsay, lies, and fantasy about 911. You can't post evidence it will ruin the delusions you post.
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bill smith
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That it's missing and we need a new 9/11 investugation to find out why.
It is not missing you failed again. The weight removed from the WTC complex matched the weight of the WTC complex. Why not research instead of spamming your delusions you find. Why not stop telling lies and try to understand 911. Is the plot too complex for you? Kill pilot take planes and hit buildings. Complex for you?
Yep we need one of these. If we do an investugation we can find all those who spread lies and why. Why do you spread lies like it's missing when nothing is missing.
bill smith thinks the floor pans were explosives. bill smith does not remember there were people who survived in the collapse so there were no explosives because they did not get blown up.
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Macgyver1968
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Circular logic doesn't work on me. Here...let me walk a mile in your shoes, and post the kind of statement I'm looking for from you:
Bill: Mitch, I appreciate your interest in my theory of the missing rubble. If you examine the pile of rubble, it is smaller than it should be. This missing rubble is clear proof that <insert name> technology was used to bring down the towers. Since terrorists to not have access to <insert name> technology, clearly this is proof that 9/11 was an inside job.
Mitch: Thank you Bill for explaining your beliefs. That clears things up.
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It's not missing.
bill smith
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I'm not sure what you mean.Can you expand on he types of technology you are talking about ?
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No, I can't, because I can't think of any technology that would be capable of what you propose..that's why I asked you. That's why I had to use "<insert name>"
The only existing technology that could even come close to making 1000's of tons of debris disappear (vaporize) would be a fission device. That's the only thing I can think of that could vaporize that much steel. But I think we would have noticed if a nuke went off that day.
What do you think cause the debris to disappear?
You are saying the debris is missing; you are wrong.
You are saying the debris is missing; you offer no theory you just repeat the lie.
You are saying the debris is missing; why do you think it is missing.
You are saying the debris is missing; that is a lie. You post lies; why?
the floor pans are so big that 33 of them stack up to one inch; now that is a lot of stuff, 33 floors of floor pans would be the height of 1 inch thickness
So we have a pile of floor plans missing that would be 3.29 inches high for the whole WTC; they are not missing they are just ruble.
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bill smith
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Well I hadn't actually suggested any technology being involved up till now, but now that you've brought it up...Maybe something that could cause massively fast vibrations in the hundreds of thousands of cycles a second could cause concrete or even steel to fall apart and essentially 'disappear'. Possiby emitted by some kind of microwave transmitter or something like that. Just a guess you understand...
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To rephrase the excellent statement so that maybe you can understand and respond;
If you are going to claim that the size of the pile is smaller than you think it should be, you have to name at least one way that could happen and it has to be consistent the physical evidence and science and eyewitness accounts.
Maybe it's space beams?
Maybe it's invisible elves with invisible cranes and trucks.
Maybe it's invisible elves with invisible cranes and trucks.
It can't be demolition explosives or termite/thermate/nono-thermite because none of them make mass go away and they don't have effects consistent with the physical evidence.
How did the mass disappear, Bill?
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We have a winner in the "Largest number of physically impossible hypotheticals and conjectures used in one paragraph" category.
There is no missing debris, Bill.
The molecules would have to go somewhere. Einstein says E=MC2. Even if you claim it got converted to energy, it would have been noticed. I and many New Yorkers would made been made blind by the flash.
Where did it go, Bill?
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You never had a science course you could not complete erase from your mind; comes to mind.
No there is no weapon or vibration that makes steel disappear on a massive WTC size scale.
Plus all those floor pans you were looking for are only 3.29 inches thick for the entire WTC; all 110 floors. All 110 acres.
Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
It was a cell phone it beats your specifications by a bunch. And it is a microwave like frequency; you have done it!!!
A cell phone; it vibrates in the electromagnetic spectrum at 2,500,000,000 time per second. That is more than your hundreds of thousands of cycle a second; 900 times 9000 would only be 8,100,000; so it must of been the cell phones at 2,500,000,000 hz modified to excite the concrete and steel and send them to fantasy-land.
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Macgyver1968
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Well I appreciate you trying to answer my question. Even if there was some sort of microwave beam technology capable of causing vibrations in the building, this still wouldn't make them disappear. It would only make the pieces smaller, and they would still end up on the pile. So it wouldn't cause the pile to be smaller...just be made of smaller pieces. Most of the structure was made of steel, what could cause steel disappear?
I like to design things. Whenever I come up with an idea for something, I run it through a "feasibility test" in my mind, where I determine if it is even possible to do what I am think of. This involves me mentally walking through everything that I would have to do to build whatever it is that I'm designing. Something needs to be feasible to be possible. So far, I'm not seeing how it is feasible for 1000's of tons of debris to be missing from the pile.
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Tens of thousands of tons Mac. The concrete can be explained by the thermite and so can a lot of the steel. But look at the picture I posted ? That's not 100,000 tons of structural steel we see.I doubt that it's even half that.
This particular fesibility study has to be reverse-engineered.
Maybe there was a black hole generator hidden in the basement. And Silverstein´s "Pull it" was the order to turn them on and pull down wtc 1&2 with its gravity. It then ate a few 1000 tons of rubble before being turned off.
What you say Bill, does it sound likely, or are there some error in the idea.
What you say Bill, does it sound likely, or are there some error in the idea.
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Wow. bill smith went with space laser vaporization...
What a shock.
Sublimating steel in an atmosphere is amusing.
What a shock.
Sublimating steel in an atmosphere is amusing.
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Thermite would leave big piles of thermite; you would have more metal! MORE metal with thermite! So you just proved there was no thermite. Good job; your delusion proves no thermite was used.
Thermite scenario is a lie started by Jones 4 years after 911; he made it up.
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