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bill smith said:
You saw it yourself. There is rubble missing. If you want to suggest some exotix cause that is up to you. Me ?...I would ike an independent enquiry to establish where the missing rubble is gone.

PS.I would be interested to hear yor thoughts on a possible exotic cause.
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Actually, I don't see it.The pile doesn't start at ground level, there are many basement floors below ground level.

I'm just trying to understand what it is that you are trying to prove. It's not my argument. There is nothing that can make 1000's of tons of debris disappear. It's a little thing called "conservation of mass"...nothing is created or destroyed, but only changes forms.

So from what I understand what you saying, you looked at the photos of ground zero, concluded that the pile was too small, and that means...what?
What part of the conspiracy does this prove?

Or are you just saying "I think the pile is too small, so that proves an inside job" ?
 
Macgyver1968 said:
Actually, I don't see it.The pile doesn't start at ground level, there are many basement floors below ground level.

I'm just trying to understand what it is that you are trying to prove. It's not my argument. There is nothing that can make 1000's of tons of debris disappear. It's a little thing called "conservation of mass"...nothing is created or destroyed, but only changes forms.

So from what I understand what you saying, you looked at the photos of ground zero, concluded that the pile was too small, and that means...what?
What part of the conspiracy does this prove?

Or are you just saying "I think the pile is too small, so that proves an inside job" ?
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Do you mean that a large percentage of the missing rubble went nto the basement levels ?
 
bill smith said:
Do you mean that a large percentage of the missing rubble went nto the basement levels ?
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the pile was 10 stories below grade
and up to 20 stories above grade
seeing the WTC were 95% air
id say theres enough

you are sick and blinded (or brainwashed)
use your eyes
stop believing what some blog told you
 
bill smith said:
Do you mean that a large percentage of the missing rubble went nto the basement levels ?
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First, I don't believe any of the rubble is missing. For something to be missing, that means someone or something had to remove it. Stuff doesn't just disappear. There is no mechanism or technology on earth that could accomplish what you are proposing.

What i don't understand is why you are proposing evidence, when you aren't even sure what that evidence proves.
 
Macgyver1968 said:
What i don't understand is why you are proposing evidence, when you aren't even sure what that evidence proves.
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It's not even evidence; it's nothing more than an unsupported claim.

I have bill smith on ignore, but I'm confident that I've seen enough of posts to be certain that he hasn't actually offered up any support for his "missing debris" claim other than a vague belief that the pile wasn't large enough.

If he wanted to turn it into evidence, he'd need to demonstrate how large the debris pile should be and compare it to how large the debris pile actually was on 9/11.
 
Macgyver1968 said:
First, I don't believe any of the rubble is missing. For something to be missing, that means someone or something had to remove it. Stuff doesn't just disappear. There is no mechanism or technology on earth that could accomplish what you are proposing.

What i don't understand is why you are proposing evidence, when you aren't even sure what that evidence proves.
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Well there was not so much in the basement levels. The tower stump plugged the acess until the last second.
If stuff is missing as it visibly is at the WTC (run the animated gif again or examine the giant photo) there must be a reason. If I don't know ehat that reason is it does not mean that the stiuff is not missing-understand ?
 
I gather from the quotes that Bill's next phase is hinting at space beams... It feels like bill is out to try every incarnation of conspiracy theories he can...
 
bill smith said:
Do you mean that a large percentage of the missing rubble went nto the basement levels ?
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Yup.

And in spite of the "In it's own footprint" stupidity from the twoofers, much the rubble got spread out over the 16 acres of the WTC plaza.


Take a look at this. WTC1, 2, and 7 are significant piles given that much of the material was either dropped 7 floors into the basement or spread over the 16 acres that was open plaza.

http://www.geo.hunter.cuny.edu/~carsi/INDEX/ABOUTCARSI/ARTICLES/geonews/october2001.pdf
 
bill smith said:
Well there was not so much in the basement levels. The tower stump plugged the acess until the last second.
If stuff is missing as it visibly is at the WTC (run the animated gif again or examine the giant photo) there must be a reason. If I don't know ehat that reason is it does not mean that the stiuff is not missing-understand ?
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um
if its missing....
how can it be visible?

[BS]"CAUSE ITS DA TWOOOF!!!"[/BS]
 
bill smith said:
Well there was not so much in the basement levels. The tower stump plugged the acess until the last second.
If stuff is missing as it visibly is at the WTC (run the animated gif again or examine the giant photo) there must be a reason. If I don't know ehat that reason is it does not mean that the stiuff is not missing-understand ?
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But how do you know it's missing? What are you using in comparison? The collapse was a unique event, and as far as I know there aren't any other pictures of other 110 story collapsed buildings, so how are you able to determine how big the pile should be?

For what I understand you are saying, you believe the pile is too small, but can't offer any explanation of why or how. Belief without reason is called faith. :)
 
bill smith said:
Well there was not so much in the basement levels. The tower stump plugged the acess until the last second.
If stuff is missing as it visibly is at the WTC (run the animated gif again or examine the giant photo) there must be a reason. If I don't know ehat that reason is it does not mean that the stiuff is not missing-understand ?
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Nothing is missing except evidence from you for your delusions. This missing stuff is your delusion. Not real and you make moronic posts about a lie; missing WTC ruble. You failed from the moment you posted your first lie about 911. Now you are posting lies as quick as they past the dumb enough to post level for you to accept as a delusion. What you are missing is evidence.
 
Macgyver1968 said:
But how do you know it's missing? What are you using in comparison? The collapse was a unique event, and as far as I know there aren't any other pictures of other 110 story collapsed buildings, so how are you able to determine how big the pile should be?

For what I understand you are saying, you believe the pile is too small, but can't offer any explanation of why or how. Belief without reason is called faith. :)
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Have it your own way. I just present evidence as I find and analyse it. You may find the quantity of rubble adequate but Ican assure you that many do not when they see these images.
 
Macgyver1968 said:
For what I understand you are saying, you believe the pile is too small, but can't offer any explanation of why or how. Belief without reason is called faith. :)
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Maybe it was magic...or Jesus!

Even odds bill smith is Dr. Judy Wood.
 
bill smith said:
Have it your own way. I just present evidence as I find and analyse it. You may find the quantity of rubble adequate but Ican assure you that many do not when they see these images.
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You have nothing that would pass as evidence.

You have done no "analyse".

Nobody that saw the pile in real life agrees with you.
 
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