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Klimax said:
Question for you bill. Where do you get energy to make that many silly statements and ignore that many good answers?

You are almost perpetum mobile...
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Select a 'good answer' that I disputed and let's see if I can explain why I disputed it better.
 
240-185 said:
Too bad you've chosen to ignore that it's a urban legend: http://web.archive.org/web/20060903...ate.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html
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bill smith said:
Select a 'good answer' that I disputed and let's see if I can explain why I disputed it better.
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Just last one. There were far more... (but why to waste time when quoted example is good enough.)

Oh and BTW:Argument ad video with no back-up evidence is not usually enough,when challenging reality.
 
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bill smith said:
Well I should hope so Justin. 500,000 ton buildings DO usually leve some trace of themselves when they fall. Unfortunately there is none of what we are looking for in that rubbble.
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If it's missing...where did it go? What are you proposing happened to it? (real questions, please answer..you have me confused)
 
Klimax said:
Just last one. There were far more... (but why to waste time when quoted example is good enough.)

Oh and BTW:Argument ad video with no back-up evidence is not usually enough,when challenging reality.
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When I said that person was 'busted' I meant that she posted a lnk from one of her files debunking the ,4,000 Jews that did not show up for work on 9/11'. That particular story has been ignored already for years. The fact that she had a link ready and waiting to debunk it shows that she has been a debunker for a long time and may be even be a professional. You notice that her link was dead ? She never even checked and gave away that that was her stock-reply. 'Busted' as ever was.
 
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Macgyver1968 said:
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If it's missing...where did it go? What are you proposing happened to it? (real questions, please answer..you have me confused)
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There was extremely little concrete left in the rubble on the ground. Even if the force of the collapse had broken it up there should have been millions of pieces of concrete strewn and piled everywhere quite apart from the percentage that had been pulverised. There should have been 100,000 tons of structural steel in and around each footprint including 5,000 floor pans that the concrete floors were poured into. Plus 110 ACRES of rebar or wire mesh reinforcing for the floors.
If you look at the attached animated gif- allow it to load and cycle a few times you get the impression of how little rubble there WAS on the ground after the collapse.Concrete, steel, wire mesh or anything else. Even more tellingly, reverse the view in your mind and watch the Two biggest Towers in the world grow and reassemble hemselves from the paltry few sticks and stones we can see on the ground. Always remembering that the inside of the buildng was full of structure too, including 110 one-acre 4'' thick concrete floors.


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There was extremely little concrete left in the rubble on the ground. Even if the force of the collapse had broken it up there should have been millions of pieces of concrete strewn and piled everywhere quite apart from the percentage that had been pulverised. There should have been 100,000 tons of structural steel in and around each footprint including 5,000 floor pans that the concrete floors were poured into. Plus 110 ACRES of rebar or wire mesh reinforcing for the floors.
If you look at the attached animated gif- allow it to load and cycle a few times you get the impression of how little rubble there WAS on the ground after the collapse.Concrete, steel, wire mesh or anything else. Even more tellingly, reverse the view in your mind and watch the Two biggest Towers in the world grow and reassemble hemselves from the paltry few sticks and stones we can see on the ground. Always remembering that the inside of the buildng was full of structure too, including 110 one-acre 4'' thick concrete floors.


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http://www.acebaker.com/9-11/HTR/web...RTitleAnim.gif animated gif
http://www.engr.psu.edu/ae/WTC/wtc-photo.jpg Huge photo (slow loading,zoomable)

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OK...Let's just say your right, and there is rubble missing. What caused this rubble to be missing? What would this be an indication of?
 
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Would I be the first to comment on how well bill smith's initials describe his posts?
 
Macgyver1968 said:
OK...Let's just say your right, and there is rubble missing. What caused this rubble to be missing? What would this be an indication of?
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I AM right about the missing rubble. You can see that yourelf. A new 9/11 enquiry will establish exactly what happenned.
 
bill smith said:
I AM right about the missing rubble. You can see that yourelf. A new 9/11 enquiry will establish exactly what happenned.
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When someone in the truth movement says "there is thermite residue in the dust of the WTC", they are saying it for a reason. To prove that thermite was used to bring down the tower.

You are saying that there is rubble missing from the pile. There must be a reason you believe this, that this proves something. What is that something? That is what confuses me. Missing rubble wouldn't be an indication of use of explosives or other demolition devices, because they don't make things disappear, they just make things into smaller pieces. What could possibly cause 1000's of tons of rubble to dissappear?
 
Macgyver1968 said:
When someone in the truth movement says "there is thermite residue in the dust of the WTC", they are saying it for a reason. To prove that thermite was used to bring down the tower.

You are saying that there is rubble missing from the pile. There must be a reason you believe this, that this proves something. What is that something? That is what confuses me. Missing rubble wouldn't be an indication of use of explosives or other demolition devices, because they don't make things disappear, they just make things into smaller pieces. What could possibly cause 1000's of tons of rubble to dissappear?
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You saw it yourself. There is rubble missing. If you want to suggest some exotix cause that is up to you. Me ?...I would ike an independent enquiry to establish where the missing rubble is gone.

PS.I would be interested to hear yor thoughts on a possible exotic cause.
 
bill smith said:
Let's get his straight Al. You see enough material on the ground to reassemble the 500,000 ton building ?
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See? I saw the pile daily starting on 9/13/2001. I know people that worked on the pile. I saw the biggest trucks I ever saw in my life hailing rubble away for weeks. (many of them too big to be street-legal)

I know first-hand that many of the claims you make about the pile are silly.

This is one of those claims.
 
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