8 out of 8 at Citgo station
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Childlike Empress
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Uuuh Ron ... <facepalm>
Ron, the debunk stands. I didn't even pay attention to what the fool was trying to fabricate. Just basic knowledge of the scenary and the witness testimony. You've been had.
Ronald Wieck to YougeneDebs said:
Ron, the debunk stands. I didn't even pay attention to what the fool was trying to fabricate. Just basic knowledge of the scenary and the witness testimony. You've been had.
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A W Smith
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A screen capture taken from Google maps street view. But this is as close to the gates of the cemetery works behind me as I could get. There is much distortion due to the lens. My line represents the flight path. This link will take you to the street view. The trees couldnt have blocked the view of the flight path from the cemetery works in my opinion.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8...yOwpt7EtZLr6dqRvv_J7Pg&cbp=12,194.04,,0,-6.69
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8...yOwpt7EtZLr6dqRvv_J7Pg&cbp=12,194.04,,0,-6.69
A W Smith
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not stupid at all. Here's an example. Compare the trees in the foreground in my screen capture above with those same trees to the left under the blue line in this photo
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/059a.jpg
Childlike Empress
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You have to make up a lie. lol
77 was higher, and your failed photo, no lens etc, no specs, is misleading and essentially a lie. Sad you have no knowledge of photography and make up a lie to support your delusion, as Paik points south.
OOPS, your fake flight path, the aircraft can be seen. OOPS, you must of been trained by CIT.
CIT witness point exactly to the official flight path, and they all agree 77 impacted the Pentagon. Which part of impacting the Pentagon do you have problems with. DNA is there, was that faked in your idiotic delusion?
The hotel video would have recorded a flyover.
Oops, CIT proves witness points to, and describes the official flight path. I could not do better to confirm what RADAR proves correct; the official flight path. BTW, the 757 is BIG! The reason witnesses think the planes were CLOSER. WAKE UP to reality, it has been 9 years, we usually only need 8 hours of sleep, what is up with 9 years?
Flight 93 passengers figured out 911 in minutes, CIT will never figure out 911, they are selling lies. Lies you believe. Good luck, at least you are persistent, and loyal to liars. Hitler had loyal followers, why shouldn't CIT.
You are missing the point, the witnesses are not liars, CIT are liars. The witnesses are real, they are describing the official flight path; I wish my telling the truth was as effective as morons telling lies to you. Stop taking things so literally.
What is wrong with RADAR? To fake all the evidence would require thousands, and based on reality if NIXON can't get away with Watergate, no one can get away with 911. 19 terrorists did 911, and they took credit. CIT makes up lies and you believe them, hook, line and sinker.
A W Smith
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AHA!! And therein lies your NOC witness problem. Depth perception. You think your red line more accurately represents the actual flight path. But if you follow the street view hyperlink, and turn your street view to the left. You will see it more accurately lines up with the overpass and damage path.
why does a 757 look closer than it is ...? Because it is big.
The 757, the big plane, looks closer than the 737, the little plane. To witnesses it looks closer, because it is bigger, not closer.
Witnesses can't draw a ground path of a plane unless they are under the plane and they can see it coming, passes over them, and then leaves them. Even Paik, who was next to the road, pointed south from where he saw 77 (clue, In his office, looking south).
The 757, the big plane, looks closer than the 737, the little plane. To witnesses it looks closer, because it is bigger, not closer.
Witnesses can't draw a ground path of a plane unless they are under the plane and they can see it coming, passes over them, and then leaves them. Even Paik, who was next to the road, pointed south from where he saw 77 (clue, In his office, looking south).
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Childlike Empress
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Smith, go as close as you can to the former CITGO station. Then watch the testimony of the three witnesses and understand why it is so absurd to think they could be mistaken about "north" and "south".
Starts at 21:30 min in:
Starts at 21:30 min in:
sheeplesnshills
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A 757 is not a thin line. Its at least 35 feet tall. The altitude given is for the bottom IIRC of the aircraft not its top so even if it was on your line the vast majority of it would be visible and not behind the trees at all.
sheeplesnshills
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how can the possible tell how near or far away it is??????? the answer is they can't with any accuracy at all
You might not have a clue what south is, why would a witness years after be better than you?
Pointing south. You can't get this right, how can a random witness get it right? All the CIT witnesses describe the official flight path, and you are not qualified to figure it out. What is new?
A W Smith
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27:17 Brooks mentions it flies over the front of the station by the yellow jersey barriers. Then moments later. After the lagasse interview he draws a line from the Arlington cemetery stone wall to the pentagon. THEN you can see him and lagasse says its a match with each others recollection, With the yellow jersey barriers behind them. LOL. I have to ask. Was Brooks there while lagasse was being interviewed and describing the transformer and Arlington cemetery wall? This is laughable. When brooks is first introduced they are interviewing him in the parking lot west and across the street from the Citgo. Do you see the cruiser they are standing around? its facing north. It has been reported that Brooks was in his cruiser, parked in this same position when flight 77 flew by. His back was to the flight path. He could have not seen the flight. Even if it flew over the north side canopy near the yellow jersey barriers. Damn he changed his story during the same interview, imagine that? As far as turcois, The security cameras show that he was not where he claims he was in this interview.
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And have more than 2 seconds to comprehend just what is happening!
Almost no one has seen such a large plane flying that low and that fast, anywhere!
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I've also said before, that witness testimony is weak on specific details. If you interview one hundred different people, you'll get 100 different stories. The key to witness testimony is how closely certain details coincide with one another, and the NOC "theory" has, and never will, change the fact that each and every single one of the people on-site that day witnessed the plane heading into the same part of the pentagon. The fact that their perception of the flight path differs from the real flight path is of very little consequence. Witnesses do not need to be liars to be wrong or inaccurate, and this continued stupidity from CIT is because they not only know nothing about witness testimony, but are also too stubborn in "revealing a nefarious plot" to give a damn.
Childlike Empress
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Interesting move.
...a linked YT video that is unavailable in Germany probably due to some copy righted pop music in combination with, I would guess, "Arbeit macht frei" (work makes free) the slogan at the gate of Auschwitz. Is it some kind of humor?
According to that email Lagasse was on the port side of the plane. So if he was at Citgo (where he had a little talk with the driver of a strange car) then the plane was SoC.
BUT
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