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15 years?! That's it?!

LillyThePink said:
Luke - while my assertion may have offended you, I think you should read what I actually type and not what you want to attack. I specifically stated ALLIED troops, not the US military with regards my human life remarks. Please be clear about what I am actually saying before you attack it. Thanks

Okay. So which Allied troops have no regard for human life, Lilly?
 
a_unique_person said:

And what do the cubans think of that?

I would bet every cent I make for the rest of my life that the majority of the Cuban people would welcome us with open arms and great relief.
 
The Fool said:


Sorry...Damn hard not to laugh at that one.....so you are saying that US forces pick up after themselves? When a cluster bomb armed aircraft is cruising around for targets of opportunity do you imagine someone goes back later to pick up the duds???. I would believe they would clean areas they wanted to use themselves after a battle, but that is not the point with this diabolical problem with clusterbombs. You designed them, they are defective, they kill and maim civilians....Three facts, get over it and agitate your government to do something about it. You may as well be dropping poisoned candy bars......same effect.

Actually, we've family friends living in Granite Bay, who get paid well to do just that. No, they don't get them all, (I wish like hell they could), but they get a lot of them. It's great in diplomatic circles; "Look, we go in and clean up after a fight! WE'RE GREAT PEOPLE!" (Yeah, I'm cynical about it.) It's PR, nothing more.

Worked with another guy who worked with Aerojet General, who told me the biggest problem with military hardware is it's all based on the lowest bidder, (or, as another book I read, whoever can pay the biggest kickback...).

You're right, we should be doing more. I'd rather not see cluster bombs used at all, if it comes right down to it. But I doubt I'll see that day come any time soon.
 
LukeT said:


I would bet every cent I make for the rest of my life that the majority of the Cuban people would welcome us with open arms and great relief.

bay of pigs didn't quite work out that way. either way, the lease is clearly an imperialistic relic of another age. what sort of lease is ever made that doesn't expire, or that the owner doesn't get the land back at some time.
 
a_unique_person said:


bay of pigs didn't quite work out that way. either way, the lease is clearly an imperialistic relic of another age. what sort of lease is ever made that doesn't expire, or that the owner doesn't get the land back at some time.

An ironclad one?

Too bad we don't have such negotiators around today to work out government contracts with civilian defense manufacturers. No more cost overruns, past deadlines, faulty cluster bombs....
 

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