15 years?! That's it?!

[zakur]

German court jails September 11 conspirator for 15 years
By Reuters

HAMBURG - A German court convicted a Moroccan on Wednesday of aiding the September 11 suicide hijackers and sentenced him to the maximum possible 15-year jail term in the first trial of an attack conspirator.

Mounir El Motassadeq, 28, a slightly built electrical engineering student, was convicted of being an accessory to the murder of 3,066 people in the plane attacks on New York and Washington, presiding judge Albrecht Mentz said.

15 years for accessory to murder of more than 3,000 people seems a bit lenient to me.

 

[Guest]

I wonder why only 15 years is the maximum allowable sentence.

I would think 15 years for each death he helped bring about....

 

[corplinx]

You see any pictures of the guy after they sentenced him? He looks soooooo relieved.

In the man's defense, supposedly only the pilots and higher ups knew all the details of the plan. This man may have been accessory to 3000 murders but did not know it. 15 years may be all they can sentence him for.

 

[ZeeGerman]

You see any pictures of the guy after they sentenced him? He looks soooooo relieved.

In the man's defense, supposedly only the pilots and higher ups knew all the details of the plan. This man may have been accessory to 3000 murders but did not know it. 15 years may be all they can sentence him for.

That's about right. Supposed he only knew that some attack was prepared without knowing when, where and what, a life sentence was out of reach. I'm not an expert on this though.

Zee

 

[DaChew]

Oh don't worry. He looks pretty young. They'll have him tossing salads in no time.

 

[Richard G]

This guy should have been publicly dismembered, all his family killed, and his house burned to the ground. Its the only thing these fundamentalist nuts understand. Germany has always been lax on crime however.

Heres the whole scoop:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/19/95405.shtml

 

[corplinx]

This guy should have been publicly dismembered, all his family killed, and his house burned to the ground. Its the only thing these fundamentalist nuts understand.

Nah, it think DaChew is right. He will understand that eating dingleberries and flossing with ass hair isn't the life of a true martyr. I wonder if he prefers jelly or syrup?

I wonder if they toss salads in German prisons or if that is an American prison phenomenon.

 

[Roadtoad]

Nah, it think DaChew is right. He will understand that eating dingleberries and flossing with ass hair isn't the life of a true martyr. I wonder if he prefers jelly or syrup?

I wonder if they toss salads in German prisons or if that is an American prison phenomenon.

Sorry, I would suspect that if anything, this guy won't suffer one bit from his time in prison in Germany. He'll be inconvenienced, and he won't be watching much TV, not to mention his mail will be censored, but as hard as things are in German prisons, they're NOTHING like American prisons.

And frankly, that's a shame.

Unfortunately, it's also unlikely the U.S. will get a crack at him.

If only...

 

[Number Six]

Let's see, 15 years in prison for being an accessory to 3,000 murders comes out to about...1.8 days in prison for each accessory to murder conviction.

 

[kittynh]

European prisons

I once decided that when I was going to murder someone I was definitly doing it in Belgium. the paper had a huge article on how "awful" the prisons were. The picture of the average cell I at first mistook for a Holiday Inn Express room. Then I noticed it was WAY nicer. Carpeting! Private bath and toilet! No shared rooms! comforters and lots of pillows! Framed pictures on the wall! And 80% of the inmates spend all day out in town at their "jobs" totally unsupervised! Also, forgot the percentage, but very very few Belgians were in these prisons. they were full of foreigners (probably American women who decided they'd had it with their in laws...).

I can't imagine Germany not having equally if not nicer facilities.

 

[a_unique_person]

Nah, it think DaChew is right. He will understand that eating dingleberries and flossing with ass hair isn't the life of a true martyr. I wonder if he prefers jelly or syrup?

I wonder if they toss salads in German prisons or if that is an American prison phenomenon.

I can't understand the american obsession with making prisons as brutal as possible. It has not been shown to reduce crime. Belgium, for all the wisecracks about it being like a motel, has a lower imprisonment rate than the US. Now, which system appears to be working better?

 

[kittynh]

why so many foreigners though?

I just can't figure out why they are filled with foreigners though. I think the Belgiums are the most law abiding people ever -well there's the dog doodie issue, but other than that. I mean, there would be hardly anyone in prison if it were Belgiums. All I know was that people were pretty mad that they had to mantain these prisons for non-Belgiums. I only got very racist answers when I asked why though. There seems to be a lot of anger, so I don't think I was getting an unbiased answer.

 

[Crossbow]

15 years sounds about right.

After all, he was not directly involved in the attacks and there is a very real possiblilty that additional charges could be set against him in the future.

 

[Trollbane]

Re: European prisons

And 80% of the inmates spend all day out in town at their "jobs" totally unsupervised!

Hmmm.. Sounds a bit like the prison system in Finland. Here there are basicly two types of prisons, open and closed. For small crimes you go to a open prison which is basicly a motel room with curfews and restrictions on how you spend your time and so on, so you can go to a town to work and get occasional weekends off.

 

[shemp]

Re: Re: European prisons

Hmmm.. Sounds a bit like the prison system in Finland. Here there are basicly two types of prisons, open and closed. For small crimes you go to a open prison which is basicly a motel room with curfews and restrictions on how you spend your time and so on, so you can go to a town to work and get occasional weekends off.

Sounds like a better deal than marriage.

 

[ZeeGerman]

Re: European prisons

I can't imagine Germany not having equally if not nicer facilities.

Of course, they get breadfast in bed and a private airobic trainer.
That's why the crime rate is so high in Germany compared to the US. The bad guys just can't wait to do time.

Well, if you think 15 years is not enough, that's too bad for you. But then, you can't do nothing about it can you?

Zee

 

[Jon_in_london]

I can't understand the american obsession with making prisons as brutal as possible. It has not been shown to reduce crime.

Maybe. But it punishes the cnuts.

 

[armageddonman]

This guy should have been publicly dismembered, all his family killed, and his house burned to the ground.

Would you like to live in a country where criminals are treated that way?

 

[Nitpick]

... all his family killed...

I simply can't believe it.
This sounds a lot like something the Taliban would have done...

For God's sake, I thought this was about defending the values of western civilization...

 

[Smalso]

The reason he only got 15 years:

HAMBURG - A German court convicted a Moroccan on Wednesday of aiding the September 11 suicide hijackers and sentenced him to the maximum possible 15-year jail term in the first trial of an attack conspirator.