$10K fine for not going through TSA screening?

bokonon said:
If only a random selection of people are scanned / groped, then there's nothing to stop Terry the Terrorist from showing up at the airport fully loaded with whatever won't set off the metal detectors. If he's randomly selected, refuse scan, refuse grope, get a refund for the ticket, and come back to try another day. Repeat until successful.
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Or he could just set of the bomb there and kill the hundreds of people lining up.
 
Just re:your comment on mine - the point is that if the sirlines shout loud enough about the loss of ticket sales, it just might affect things. If they don't mind it, they can shove it. I don't need 'em.
 
WildCat said:
No way in hell are passengers going to allow terrorists to take control of an airplane again. Flight 93 proved that. There won't be any more 9/11-style attacks, unless it's the pilots themselves who are the terrorists. And no level of search can prevent that.
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Oh, well that's all right then. I'm sure the terrorists won't alter their approach at all.
 
I guess I shouldn't be amazed at the number of people who think surrendering MY rights is a good idea, since it doesn't bother them at all.
I shouldn't be, but I am. Sigh...
 
TraneWreck said:
Or he could just set of the bomb there and kill the hundreds of people lining up.
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Doubtful that anyone setting off a bomb in line is going to kill hundreds.

Likely that anyone setting off a bomb on a plane is going to kill everyone on board.

There are thousands of soft targets, where dozens can be killed with a bomb.

The fact that we don't have bombs going off on buses argues strongly that it's unlikely we'd have bombs going off on domestic commercial flights.

I think the reaction is way out of proportion to the threat, and would prefer to be able to take a chance on a "no screening whatsoever" plane flight, just as I would if I took the subway or the city bus.

That said, I think it's laughable that people are getting their knickers in a knot over the thought of someone peeking through their knickers or giving them a grope. Puritans...
 
bokonon said:
That said, I think it's laughable that people are getting their knickers in a knot over the thought of someone peeking through their knickers or giving them a grope.
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You think it's laughable that people are disinclined to having someone they don't know see them naked or feel them up?

What world do you live in? A nudist colony?

Call me a Puritan all you want, but I don't find it laughable at all, and I find your attitude toward this invasion of privacy to be pathetic and disgusting.
 
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Grizzly Adams said:
You think it's laughable that people are disinclined to having someone they don't know see them naked or feel them up?
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Yes.

If you were in a traffic accident and were taken unconscious to the emergency room, it's entirely possible that someone you don't know would see you naked, and maybe stick a knife in you. Every time I move to a new city and go for a physical, somebody I don't know sees me naked and sticks a finger up my butt. The discomfort you feel is all in your head.

Grizzly Adams said:
Call me a Puritan all you want, but I don't find it laughable at all, and I find your attitude toward this invasion of privacy to be pathetic and disgusting.
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Well, Puritan, while the policy is in place, you can completely avoid the "invasion of privacy" by choosing some other form of transportation. If you know the policy and choose to fly, you're choosing to have your privacy invaded, just as you are when you schedule a physical.
 
bokonon said:
The discomfort you feel is all in your head.
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Not really.

Well, Puritan, while the policy is in place, you can completely avoid the "invasion of privacy" by choosing some other form of transportation. If you know the policy and choose to fly, you're choosing to have your privacy invaded, just as you are when you schedule a physical.
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Really going to call him a Puritan again?

Anyway, I probably will avoid the airport unless it's absolutely necessary because that, among other things, is taking the convenience out of using the service.
 
MikeMangum said:
It's going to be real fun to travel when TSA decides that a body cavity search is a requirement to board an airplane.
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All terrorists have to do is start talking to each other on radios and cellphones about a plot to smuggle flammable fluids in little plastic bottles that they've smuggled up their bum.

They don't even have to do it. They just need to act like it's a good idea.
 
The part that I find most disgusting about all this TSA crap is the attitude of the TSA. I've heard audio of a TSA agent saying (paraphrase, don't remember the exact wording) 'you give up some of your rights when you purchase an airline ticket'.
 
MikeMangum said:
The part that I find most disgusting about all this TSA crap is the attitude of the TSA. I've heard audio of a TSA agent saying (paraphrase, don't remember the exact wording) 'you give up some of your rights when you purchase an airline ticket'.
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What really ticks me off is the cavalier attitude of the TSA. I told him I was uncomfortable with the intimate contact, and he told me "Hey, if I have to juice your pig to make the skies safer, I'll juice your pig till your head spins".
 
http://gizmodo.com/5692583/woman-su...creener-exposed-her-breasts-to-entire-airport

Listen, we know the TSA's been unpopular lately. But are they really so bad? What about this time a TSA screener pulled down a woman's blouse while frisking her? And then laughed about it? Yes. Yes, they are that bad.

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"One male TSA employee expressed to the plaintiff that he wished he would have been there when she came through the first time and that 'he would just have to watch the video.'"
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Replace the TSA drones with doctors and make it part of the health care bill. You're now cleared to board and up to date with your vaccines.
 
What I think would help is if anyone who chooses NOT to travel due to this policy were to send a letter informing the airline of your choice, the reasons for it, and an estimate of how much of your money won't be coming their way.
 
People who are ashamed of their bodies and crippled by social anxieties don't deserve to fly! That extra sweater won't hide your bitch tits anymore, Jimmy.

I don't mind taking off my shoes, but the full body scan I had in Moscow in 2008 was weird. Especially the looks I got from the stewardess ladies.
 
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Travis said:
You bought a ticket against your will? You were taken to the airport against your will? You got in the security screening line against your will?
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If you have to do a travel for your JOB, otherwise known as duty travel, you have the choice between : 1) lose your job (with all the conomic burden and uncertainty to not find another one) 2) travel. That certainly does not look to me like a choice. But hey, feel free to be on your high horse and pretend we always have a choice.
 
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