No. I dont believe there was any such gouge, there is no evidence nor any way it could have occurred.
still hanging in there Chris? They still haven't answered the first question?
I got a reminder from Jref so I'm posting one post. Got no time for more.
Kader Toy Factory:
http://www.ilo.org/encyclopedia/?doc&nd=857100058&nh=0
The E-shaped building was a four-storey structure composed of concrete slabs supported by a structural steel frame.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCormick_Place
The gleaming white building burned down in 1967, a shocking event as it was largely steel and concrete and was thought to be fireproof. However, the exhibits at the time were highly flammable and there were inadequate sprinklers and hydrants, thus the fire spread quickly and destructively,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/hereford/worcs/6105942.stm
Major fire at toilet paper plant
"Intense heat buckled the steel girders holding the roof."
(Photo looks like a small, 4 storey concrete building, full of intense orange flames.)
All 3 are small buildings made of reinforced concrete with intense fire occupying the entire building interior. Not comparable at all to the WTC which were steel skyscrapers and fire only in a small part of the overall structure.
People survived in the Towers up to the moment of collapse – the insides of the buildings were largely at room temperature or thereabouts.
In the toilet paper plant fire it says steel girders buckled. OK, but in the WTC, steel girders were chopped up in short lengths and some of them were ejected upwards and outwards into the air. Buckling by itself would only lead to the building sagging, not being pulverized!
Some 9/11 Lyers have been saying there were no explosions because they are not heard by the videos broadcast by the corporate controlled media. Note that the media are owned by corporations (6 companies control 96% of the media – see
http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/front.shtml#chart ) and they are controlled by the super-rich – the same powerful few who control the CFR, CIA, and the war machine. Unfortunately, we have to come to grips with the fact that this is a big conspiracy coming from the top of our society, from the Owners, and the top is totally corrupt – the fish stinks from the head. In other words, the sounds of explosions could easily have been muffled out for TV viewers.
Distortion in the media for propaganda purposes is the rule, objectivity is the exception or exists only in theory.
However, there are videos of fireman describing the explosion (bam, bam, bam – a floor at a time, you know the one) and I recently was pointed to this short one, only 17 seconds, where you can clearly hear a big explosion. The camera goes off looking for the source of the sound, pointing upwards, apparently up into the towers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I#C40Hv04n8GU
you can very clearly hear a big explosion coming apparently from the towers and a policeman saying, "sounds like an explosion, I know" meaning it was not the first time he is hearing this.
The essence of it is that the collapses of WTC 1, 2 and 7 not only look like controlled demolitions, they look ONLY like CD’s. This is the only known phenomenon that even closely resembles what we saw on 9/11, and they fit all the characteristics, such as free fall speed, which clearly is only possible if the supporting columns are blown out.
This is why I say it is too obvious and I don’t have patience to discuss this with people who to all appearences are either totally brainwashed, or maybe even being paid to cover up the conspiracy this way – that is with case-hardened 9/11 Lyers.
