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gun control

  1. Travis

    Would the new laws prevent Newtown?

    I'm reentering this debate to ask a pressing question. You see I obviously support gun control measures. But I'm not that impressed with the current proposals. Specifically let us look at the incident that started this whole thing (for the nation, not me, my view on this matter was sealed in...
  2. Brian-M

    A hypothetical gun control proposal

    Given that gun control in the US is a hot topic at the moment, I thought I'd test the waters by presenting a hypothetical solution of my own. What would everyone's reaction be if the US government came up with the following proposal.... ? 1. Introduction of firearm licenses Citizens would be...
  3. Travis

    I am a radical (and therefore numerically insignificant)

    Yes I am a radical. Therefore I am essentially insignificant. The vast majority of people are not going to support my no compromise get-all-the-guns-out-of-civilian-hands-with-whatever-force-is-necessary stance on the issue of gun control. They will, instead, support much more practical and...
  4. Orphia Nay

    Gun Ownership is a Privilege, Not a Right

    Owning a gun is not a right - it's a privilege... that few people deserve. Just because a bunch of guys named gun ownership a right a few hundred years ago doesn't mean it really is a right. Guns were different then. It's not a right to own Anthrax, for example. It's time America emerged from...
  5. Travis

    So, remember the Obama gun ban?

    As you may all remember a lot of completely sane and rational people stocked up on guns and bullets in the months preceding Obama's inauguration based on the not-in-any-way-crazy idea that he would make seizing/banning such items his first major policy act. So......now that the completely...
  6. T

    Arizona murderer was allowed to buy a Glock

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110111/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot_the_gun Jared Loughner had trouble with the law, was rejected by the Army after flunking a drug test and was considered so mentally unstable that he was banned from his college campus, where officials considered him a threat...
  7. Captain.Sassy

    Long Gun Registry

    Anyone else getting sick of how NDP MPs are parlaying their position on the long gun registry and the upcoming vote into 15 minutes of media fame? Great, it gets a backbencher some air time. Strategically, though, this is so dumb. It's playing right into Harper's attempts to make this a...
  8. C

    Hillary's "De Facto Gun Ban" on Import of U.S. M1 & M1 Carbines From S. Korea

    Hillary's "De Facto Gun Ban" on Import of U.S. M1 & M1 Carbines From S. Korea "According to the ATF Guidebook on Firearms Importation, it would normally be legal to import the M1s because they are more than 50 years old, meaning they qualify as "curios or relics." But because the guns were...
  9. The Fallen Serpent

    Liberals, support or reject a de facto ban on handgun ownership?

    Feel free to elaborate. I chose No, with major exceptions. Those exceptions would be for certain classes and states. Violent criminals, major mental illness, discharging under the influence, high security locations, registered Republicans (j/king, that falls under the second class ;) )
  10. BenBurch

    Would this gun ordinance pass constitutional muster?

    Hypothetical (not that I think its a good idea); So, suppose Chicago lost its handgun ban ordinance. What if the City, while prohibiting no weapons, ordered that all weapons in the City of Chicago that were not exempt under the earlier ordinance be entirely painted a particular shade of hot...
  11. billydkid

    Gun rights - this should stir the nest.

    http://www.vcdl.org/new/raging.htm
  12. gnome

    Gun control poll--please read OP for assumptions.

    I had a poll on this a long time ago and it seems to have been lost. I am repeating to see if I get similar results. The poll is for US residents that identify themselves as liberal or conservative, to measure the spectrum of opinion on gun control. For purposes of this thread, assume that...
  13. M

    Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009

    I'm not sure if anyone's seen this bill yet, I expect to hear everyone up in arms about it within a few days. Here is a link to the full text of the bill, and presumably where the most up-to-date text can be found as it is altered: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-45...
  14. Ranb

    Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1 Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug...
  15. The Mutha

    Run on Ammunition?

    So, The Boy was out yesterday trying to buy some ammunition for one of his target pistols and discovered that there appears to be some huge run on ammo here in the Houston area. He went to three Academys and two Wal-Marts on Friday and none of them had any stock on the shelves of any handgun...
  16. Smiledriver

    2nd ammendment skepticism

    Hello, I have noticed that an ever present fixture in the gun control debate in the U.S. is an argument over the intention of the 2nd ammendment to the American constitution. The ammendment seems to be viewed as either... 1.) That well regulated miltias are crucial to the security of a free...
  17. J

    I'm all for gun control

    I think everyone who wants to get a gun should have to watch a half-hour film on what guns do to people, and I mean up close, including the big exit holes, the blood, the crying relatives, etc. And anyone who salivates excessively or has their plesmethogram show a strong reaction should not get...
  18. Nyarlathotep

    Weirdest election mailer ever

    So the other day I got a mailer that puzzled me. ON the front side it showed a couple of people at a shooting range with words to the effect that Obama and McCain are pretty much the same on the issue of gun control. Even most of the back expounded on the idea that there was no real difference...
  19. M

    Question for libertarians

    I am quite attracted from libertarians, and I like Ron Paul quite a lot, as you can see from my avatar. One thing I do not understand. How can such pacific people can be against gun control? I mean, this is the reason to be against gun control, according to RP: But, how can you rule out that a...
  20. Beerina

    Bitterly cling to their guns

    Oh oh I think that once she wrestled the shotgun away from the two men trying to kill her, she should have: 1. Told them to lie down 2. Fired a warning shot if necessary. 3. If they ran at her, she should shoot to wound, first 4. Make sure the toys on the front lawn were cleared out of the...
  21. Axiom_Blade

    How Gun Makers Can Help Us

    Very intriguing article in the LA Times, How Gun Makers can Help Us: This places the responsibility on the gun companies, instead of lawmakers. It doesn't infringe the Second Amendment. What do you think about this? Is it worth a shot? (haha, sorry)
  22. Drudgewire

    Supreme Court: 2nd Amendment NOT about militias

    From the Scotus Blog: And so there is no ambiguity: And from The Hill :cheerleader1 :bounce2 :cheerleader3 :cheerleader2 :cheerleader5 157 page ruling
  23. stilicho

    Gun Violence Supported In The USA

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/366221_guns08.html Again, a responsible American politician is threatened by gun advocates as innocent people get shot by someone. From the article: "This...is the only time I've heard of some guy with a concealed pistol license doing something like...
  24. Ranb

    Kansas repeals law banning machine guns.

    The Kansas legislature voted to allow civilians to own NFA weapons (machine guns, silencers, short barreled rifles/shotguns) as long as the owners comply with federal law. This means they pay the $200 tax and obtain the tax stamp which amounts to ATF authorization to possess. It seems the law...
  25. JonathanClement

    Gun controll?

    Oh, crap... So, I watched this video about gun control about how they took all the guns away in england and it stirred the pot of paranoia again... Especially considering that England also has a reputation for being constantly monitored... It makes me wonder if it isn't part of some conspiracy...
  26. Ranb

    Atkins suing USA over ATF ruling on rifles.

    William Atkins developed a device for the Ruger 10/22 rifle to increase the rate of fire. It consisted of a special stock that allowed the barrel and receiver to rock back and forth (bump fire) while shooting, greatly increasing the rate of fire. Rates as high as 650 rpm were claimed. The...
  27. B

    Obama on Gun Control

    Link (Note this is from December, 1999, when Obama was an Illinois state senator.) Bolding mine. If someone steals your gun out of your house and shoots someone with it, you get charged with a felony. Today's exercise: Calculate how far you would have to drive in order to get to the...
  28. Ranb

    Why are guns made to kill?

    I see this statement all the time here. "Guns are made to kill." Why do you think this is true or not? While some firearms are clearly intended to be used to kill humans (M-16's, AK-47's), others (electric free pistols, silhouette pistols, target rifles) are clearly intended for sport...
  29. Ranb

    pistol cartridge micro stamping

    The CA Gov signed AB 1471 into law a little while back. This modifies the definition of an unsafe firearm to include semi-automatic pistols that lack a means of micro-stamping the cartridge case in two places upon firing. AB1471...
  30. B

    Obama: "Epidemic" of Violence

    The Illinois state senate should do something about this. It should have done something about this ten years ago. What's the problem with the Illinois state senate? Why didn't it do anything about this epidemic of violence during the past ten years? It's a good thing Barack Obama is bringing...

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