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[Continuation] Qanon Conspiracy Theories Part Three

More Q-nuttery.

The so-called QAnon Queen of Canada tried to expand her empire and name other sovereigns. They split off and are now threatening regicide.

Wearing a Florida Gators T-shirt, an Arizona man in his mid-40s attempts to convince the hundreds of thousands of conspiracy theorists watching his laptop livestream that he’s the real leader of the United States. “King” David Carlson explains that he still has a few million people to "take out" before he’s finally done with his plan: installing QAnon kings and queens across the world.

“We’ve managed to infiltrate large portions of the world's population and cut the heads off the snake in many places around the world,” said Carlson, hinting at the murder or incarceration of his enemies. “We’ve got a long way to go yet. There are a few million minions we're having to deal with. But we’re catching up.”

To understand the man claiming to be the King of America, you must first understand the woman claiming to be the Queen of Canada. Romana Didulo is a QAnon influencer who’s convinced a sizable number of people that she’s the ruler of Canada, a leader in the existential fight against an international cabal of globalist pedophiles who control the world, and an extraterrestrial being with healing powers. Some experts even describe the group as a cult.

Didulo is currently in the midst of a never-ending tour of Canada, driving around the country in a caravan of RVs, making appearances with her followers. Like any good monarch, Didulo decided to expand her kingdom past its borders, and, like any good QAnon figure, her idea massively backfired. The sovereigns she implemented began implementing their own sovereigns, and now a large group has broken off and are threatening regicide . . .
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Too bad the resident Q-Nut got hisself banned 'cause his take on this would've been hilarious.
 
Didn't she used to be a real journalist?

Newsmax Bans Lara Logan After She Goes Full QAnon, Spews Blood Libel on Network (thedailybeast.com)
“God believes in sovereignty, a national identity, of the sanctity of family and all the things that we’ve lived with from the beginning of time,” she proclaimed. “And he knows that the open border is Satan's way of taking control of the world through all of these are people who are stooges and his servants.”
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“And they may think that they’re going to become gods; that’s what they tell us. You know [Yuval] Harari and all the rest of them at the World Economic Forum? You know, the ones who want us eating insects, cockroaches and that, while they dine on the blood of children? Those are the people, right? They’re not gonna win!”
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Sound of Freedom: the QAnon-adjacent thriller seducing America

Jim Caviezel stars as a hero trying to stop child traffickers in a paranoid new movie turning into a surprise box-office hit

Charles Bramesco

Type the words “sound of freedom” into Twitter (decent people who wish to live good, happy lives should under no circumstances actually do this) and the search will yield dozens of triumphant reports crowing about the improbable victory of a film by that title over the likes of Indiana Jones at the box office this week.

That’s not, strictly speaking, accurate – Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny had already been out for five days, the first three of which out-earned Sound of Freedom’s opening-day take, when the new independent thriller came to theaters on Tuesday. But for a fleeting moment this past Fourth of July, while the intended audience of Indy’s latest outing was presumably spending time with their families and friends at barbecues or in other social situations, an unoccupied fandom rallied by the star Jim Caviezel claimed the day with a $14.2m gross versus Dial of Destiny’s $11.7m. No matter that these figures require selective, almost willfully misleading framing to allow for the David-and-Goliath narrative trumpeted by supporters; as the copious tweets accusing Disney of being in cahoots with a global cabal of high-power pedophiles make clear, the truth doesn’t have too much purchase around these parts.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/jul/06/sound-of-freedom-movie-qanon-jim-caviezel
 
zorro99 said:
Sound of Freedom: the QAnon-adjacent thriller seducing America

Jim Caviezel stars as a hero trying to stop child traffickers in a paranoid new movie turning into a surprise box-office hit

Charles Bramesco

Type the words “sound of freedom” into Twitter (decent people who wish to live good, happy lives should under no circumstances actually do this) and the search will yield dozens of triumphant reports crowing about the improbable victory of a film by that title over the likes of Indiana Jones at the box office this week.
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I saw that claim by someone in our local community group:rolleyes:, but I knew Indiana Jones had already claimed the win.

From the article:

The first rule of QAnon: you don’t talk about QAnon where the normals can hear you.

Caviezel has saved that for his promotional media appearances, such as a recent drop-in to Steve Bannon’s show War Room on MyPillow proprietor Mike Lindell’s streaming channel Lindell TV. In the course of their interview, he conveyed the severity of the situation by explaining that an enterprising salesperson would have to move 1,000 barrels of oil to match the sum they’d get for filling one barrel with the rendered corpses of the innocent. Elsewhere, he’s parroted falsehoods about Pizzagate and other underground cells subsisting on human blood, all of it pointing back to a foundation of conspiratorial thought targeting the Jewish and transgender communities.

These zestier strains of scaremongering are absent in the text itself, but they lurk in the shadows around a film outwardly non-insane enough to lure in the persuadable; the disappointingly un-juicy Sound of Freedom pretends to be a real movie, like a “pregnancy crisis center” masquerading as a bona fide health clinic.
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His Messiah Complex has spread to QAnon delusions, though I gather that can be common.
 
eerok said:
Didn't she used to be a real journalist?

Newsmax Bans Lara Logan After She Goes Full QAnon, Spews Blood Libel on Network (thedailybeast.com)
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She was a rising star at CBS until she was fired in disgrace for allowing herself to be hoodwinked by a sketchy source telling a whooper of a BS story about the Benghazi embassy attack, resulting in an embarrassing retraction from her employer.

It's interesting how often personal failure and disgrace seems to be the triggering incident that leads to right wing radicalization. Not sure if this is purely psychological or that conspiracy cranks are the audience of last resort for people with an otherwise poor reputation.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
She was a rising star at CBS until she was fired in disgrace for allowing herself to be hoodwinked by a sketchy source telling a whooper of a BS story about the Benghazi embassy attack, resulting in an embarrassing retraction from her employer.

It's interesting how often personal failure and disgrace seems to be the triggering incident that leads to right wing radicalization. Not sure if this is purely psychological or that conspiracy cranks are the audience of last resort for people with an otherwise poor reputation.
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It's been observed a number of times that one of the main drivers for the attraction to CTs is emotional. If people have unhealthily low levels of self-esteem, they're much more likely to engage in unhealthy means to compensate for such and at least treat the symptoms of that. That's also one of the main reasons why such beliefs can be so resilient against reality - real needs are incentivizing such, so until the support that they provide can be replaced, relatively few will let go. There certainly are those who will seek to exploit that for gain, but influencers can very much be influenced by their audiences, too.
 
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TurkeysGhost said:
She was a rising star at CBS until she was fired in disgrace for allowing herself to be hoodwinked by a sketchy source telling a whooper of a BS story about the Benghazi embassy attack, resulting in an embarrassing retraction from her employer.

It's interesting how often personal failure and disgrace seems to be the triggering incident that leads to right wing radicalization. Not sure if this is purely psychological or that conspiracy cranks are the audience of last resort for people with an otherwise poor reputation.
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Needs to be pointed out that Logan has never been the same person after being gang-raped in Egypt. Doesn't excuse poor judgement and wearing her new biases on her sleeve, though. She should hang it up and get real help.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
She was a rising star at CBS until she was fired in disgrace for allowing herself to be hoodwinked by a sketchy source telling a whooper of a BS story about the Benghazi embassy attack, resulting in an embarrassing retraction from her employer.

It's interesting how often personal failure and disgrace seems to be the triggering incident that leads to right wing radicalization. Not sure if this is purely psychological or that conspiracy cranks are the audience of last resort for people with an otherwise poor reputation.
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We have Gamma O'Doherty.
 
Impossible to please these freaks:

number of TikTok users have claimed AMC Theatres and Regal Cinemas' air-conditioning was not working at screenings across the country of the new movie Sound of Freedom.

"Through the movie...I did not move from my seat, even though I was dripping with sweat," she continued. "I didn't think about it once until I started seeing all these videos about how there was no AC in there. There was no AC... They turned the ********** air off in the Sound of Freedom theater. Yeah, thanks."

Another video shared by @kristenestxx from an unnamed location showed a woman asking a theater staff member about the air-conditioning issue occurring around "the whole country" and affecting "this movie only."
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It's a plot to cook our most Patriotic Americans! They're trying to suppress the truth by running the movie in their nationwide theater chains but making it a bit too warm!


https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-fury-multiple-people-claim-ac-not-working-during-film-1812374
 
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The highest highs and the lowest lows. Tim Ballard, topic of the surprisingly successful movie Sound of Freedom, parting ways with Operation Underground Railroad. Some rumors that essentially got fired by the board.

Tim Ballard, founder of Operation Underground Railroad, has quietly parted ways with the controversial anti-trafficking group. The news comes as Sound of Freedom, a heavily fictionalized depiction of Ballard’s work for a division of ICE and his early career as a private anti-trafficking operator, continues to draw at the box office. The movie has brought in just under $50 million, largely on the strength of a marketing campaign encouraging religious audiences to not only attend the movie but “pay it forward” by buying tickets for other people, bringing unprecedented attention to both Ballard and OUR.


In recent days, sources with knowledge of OUR began to tell Motherboard that Ballard had left the organization. By one account, he’d gone to donors in a state of upset, saying that he’d been forced out and asking for their help with a new organization. Another person who’s worked with the group said that to the best of their knowledge, he was no longer with OUR and was focusing on his work with the Nazarene Fund, a Glenn Beck-backed organization that has focused on religious minorities in the Middle East but has more recently operated in Afghanistan and Ukraine. A third person familiar with OUR fundraising said that they had heard just this week that Ballard had broken with the organization.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7z74x/tim-ballard-sound-of-freedom-operation-underground-railroad-stepped-away
Q freaks are going to have a field day with this
 
Weird thing going on were some people are going to sold out showings of sound of freedom but the actual theatre is sparsely populated. Q anon weirdos assume this mean the deep state is trying to suppress the film.

Right wing donors are buying up tickets in bulk as part of a "pay it forward" campaign to try to get people to see this movie. It's not just entertainment, it's being framed as an important "message movie" that people need to see. I'm reminded how churches and such were group buying tickets and trying to get everyone to see "Passion of the Christ" when it came out

According to the studio, nearly 5 million tickets have been bought to offer for free, though it's unclear how many people are actually claiming them.


https://www.angel.com/pay-it-forward/sound-of-freedom

Wonder how many people are actually seeing this flick and how much the box office returns are just the result of right wing weirdos getting really excited and buying up multiple tickets.

Edit: a similar thing often happens in the book world, where people will bulk buy books to shoot it to the top of the bestsellers list, often with the books being given away as free swag or whatever. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/gop-book-deals/2021/04/15/154f3820-9ca5-11eb-b7a8-014b14aeb9e4_story.html
 
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TurkeysGhost said:
Weird thing going on were some people are going to sold out showings of sound of freedom but the actual theatre is sparsely populated. Q anon weirdos assume this mean the deep state is trying to suppress the film.

Right wing donors are buying up tickets in bulk as part of a "pay it forward" campaign to try to get people to see this movie. It's not just entertainment, it's being framed as an important "message movie" that people need to see. I'm reminded how churches and such were group buying tickets and trying to get everyone to see "Passion of the Christ" when it came out

According to the studio, nearly 5 million tickets have been bought to offer for free, though it's unclear how many people are actually claiming them.


https://www.angel.com/pay-it-forward/sound-of-freedom

Wonder how many people are actually seeing this flick and how much the box office returns are just the result of right wing weirdos getting really excited and buying up multiple tickets.

Edit: a similar thing often happens in the book world, where people will bulk buy books to shoot it to the top of the bestsellers list, often with the books being given away as free swag or whatever. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/gop-book-deals/2021/04/15/154f3820-9ca5-11eb-b7a8-014b14aeb9e4_story.html
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I'll admit, it's been some time since I've been to the movies, but it used to be, you bought a ticket at the box office, entered the theater, which was then subdivided into assorted different cinemas where whichever movie you wanted to see was showing. Could it be, people are taking the free tickets and then seeing a different movie besides the Smell of Flimflammery?
 
TurkeysGhost said:
Weird thing going on were some people are going to sold out showings of sound of freedom but the actual theatre is sparsely populated. Q anon weirdos assume this mean the deep state is trying to suppress the film.

Right wing donors are buying up tickets in bulk as part of a "pay it forward" campaign to try to get people to see this movie. It's not just entertainment, it's being framed as an important "message movie" that people need to see. I'm reminded how churches and such were group buying tickets and trying to get everyone to see "Passion of the Christ" when it came out

According to the studio, nearly 5 million tickets have been bought to offer for free, though it's unclear how many people are actually claiming them.
https://www.angel.com/pay-it-forward/sound-of-freedom

Wonder how many people are actually seeing this flick and how much the box office returns are just the result of right wing weirdos getting really excited and buying up multiple tickets.

Edit: a similar thing often happens in the book world, where people will bulk buy books to shoot it to the top of the bestsellers list, often with the books being given away as free swag or whatever. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/gop-book-deals/2021/04/15/154f3820-9ca5-11eb-b7a8-014b14aeb9e4_story.html
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Mike! said:
I'll admit, it's been some time since I've been to the movies, but it used to be, you bought a ticket at the box office, entered the theater, which was then subdivided into assorted different cinemas where whichever movie you wanted to see was showing. Could it be, people are taking the free tickets and then seeing a different movie besides the Smell of Flimflammery?
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I've never seen, or even heard of, such a system. Your ticket is for a specific film.
 
catsmate said:
I've never seen, or even heard of, such a system. Your ticket is for a specific film.
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I think you misunderstood. I believe Mike! is saying someone could take the hypothetical free ticket to the dumb movie and, once past the ticket checker, detour into a movie they'd actually like to see. Most theaters don't police this practice seriously unless people are lining up for a sold-out flick.
 
Babbylonian said:
I think you misunderstood. I believe Mike! is saying someone could take the hypothetical free ticket to the dumb movie and, once past the ticket checker, detour into a movie they'd actually like to see. Most theaters don't police this practice seriously unless people are lining up for a sold-out flick.
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Precisely. :thumbsup::D
 
Babbylonian said:
I think you misunderstood. I believe Mike! is saying someone could take the hypothetical free ticket to the dumb movie and, once past the ticket checker, detour into a movie they'd actually like to see. Most theaters don't police this practice seriously unless people are lining up for a sold-out flick.
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These days most theaters here in California require you to chose your seat in advance, either online or the box office. Makes theater-switching harder for the hot movies.
 
I absolutely loved when my usual theatres switched to being able to pick seats in advance. Usually a lot more comfortable AND I don't have to show up twenty minutes early or more. If I'm running a little late I can waltz in during the previews, soda and Reese's Pieces in hand and know I'll have decent seats, or as good as I was able to pick in advance. Arrival time doesn't affect it, which makes it a more relaxed experience.
 
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Axxman300 said:
These days most theaters here in California require you to chose your seat in advance, either online or the box office. Makes theater-switching harder for the hot movies.
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Not really. "I'm in your seat? I'm sorry and I'll find mine." As for near-full theaters, yeah, that was a problem I noted. In any case, given the number of theaters in most multiplexes it shouldn't be difficult to find a movie at least marginally better than the free one and with available seating.

Who knows? The theater might take the lousy ticket in trade for a good one. They don't care if particular movies succeed as long as they sell overpriced popcorn and soda.
 
Babbylonian said:
I think you misunderstood. I believe Mike! is saying someone could take the hypothetical free ticket to the dumb movie and, once past the ticket checker, detour into a movie they'd actually like to see. Most theaters don't police this practice seriously unless people are lining up for a sold-out flick.
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Mike! said:
Precisely. :thumbsup::D
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Ah. I've never seen this, usually tickets are checked when entering the particular theatre.
 
Axxman300 said:
Check out Fandango.com, where you can not only buy tickets for any theater in their system, anywhere in the country, in many theaters you can choose your seat in advance like a ballgame,
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I assume it's USAia only?

Axxman300 said:
These days most theaters here in California require you to chose your seat in advance, either online or the box office. Makes theater-switching harder for the hot movies.
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Similar here. Advanced booking is for a specific seat, on-prem purchase gives you a nominated seat but you generally specify something like "right side, half-way up" to the seller. Unless it's a kiosk machine.
Ticket are checked and torn when entering.
 
In my area the seats are all numbered like they are in sports arenas.

Not a fan of this, I love movies, I worked in a movie theater. A big part of the fun of going to the movies is picking your seat on the spot. Maybe I don't want to sit next to loud or rowdy people, or the folks who bring young children to R-rated movies. I don't like choosing my seat blind.
 
catsmate said:
I assume it's USAia only?


Similar here. Advanced booking is for a specific seat, on-prem purchase gives you a nominated seat but you generally specify something like "right side, half-way up" to the seller. Unless it's a kiosk machine.
Ticket are checked and torn when entering.
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Still pretty easy to theater hop in the US, assuming the movie isn't sold out. Just stroll in a few minutes after the movie starts and find a vacant seat. In the US at least, often tickets are checked before entering the general lobby area, but not at specific screens.

No idea how many people are using this "pay it forward" campaign to see other movies, but it absolutely would be possible in most US theaters.

Hell, people do this at sports events too. People in the cheap seats will notice better seats are vacant after the game start and try to slyly move down, often to get confronted by stadium security and moved back to the nosebleeds or ejected.
 
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I was listening to a podcast where they were interviewing Miles Klee about his Rolling Stone article "'Sound Of Freedom’ Is a Superhero Movie for Dads With Brainworms" and generally discussing the film.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/sound-of-freedom-jim-caviezel-child-trafficking-qanon-movie-1234783837/

There was an interesting perspective given that I hadn't considered before.

These Qanon folks, for all their raging against the supposed "deep state sickos", are themselves engaged in extremely perverse thinking. If you strip this whole thing of its political valence, it's basically a huge fan-fiction community that spends a lot of time daydreaming up increasingly sadistic child rape and torture fantasies. Even though they put themselves into the "hero" role in these fantasy situations, they are essentially fantasizing about a world in which child rape and torture hyper-abundant.

These people are straight up perverts. Nothing they do or think about has any real connection to the actual problem of child and sex trafficking, and the tropes they fantasize about often put them at odds with real solutions proposed by those who actually try to take a sober, realistic view of the problem.

Another comment I saw elsewhere speculated that perhaps much of the appeal of Qanon, beyond tarring their political enemies as the most evil people imaginable, is that this expression of fantastic anti-pedo sentiment is their way of dealing with their community's past and ongoing total failure to safeguard children from pedo priests or other figures of authority. the best defense is a good offense, and hyper-focusing on the "pedo elite" is a great way to distract their attention from the real child abuse that their hierarchical worldview allows to run unchecked.
 
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It's the Spanish Inquisition Redux, with endless thought given to what exactly those witches are doing with Satan.
With the same ratio of Inquisitors to witches and the same chance to be found not guilty
 
And the TRUE complaint is:"" why don't I get invited to these satanic orgies? I could squeeze way more adrenochrome out of these little brats than an old hag like Pelosi can!"
 
TurkeysGhost said:
Weird thing going on were some people are going to sold out showings of sound of freedom but the actual theatre is sparsely populated. Q anon weirdos assume this mean the deep state is trying to suppress the film.

Right wing donors are buying up tickets in bulk as part of a "pay it forward" campaign to try to get people to see this movie. It's not just entertainment, it's being framed as an important "message movie" that people need to see. I'm reminded how churches and such were group buying tickets and trying to get everyone to see "Passion of the Christ" when it came out

According to the studio, nearly 5 million tickets have been bought to offer for free, though it's unclear how many people are actually claiming them.


https://www.angel.com/pay-it-forward/sound-of-freedom

Wonder how many people are actually seeing this flick and how much the box office returns are just the result of right wing weirdos getting really excited and buying up multiple tickets.
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I posted about this in the Indy thread.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14112804#post14112804
 
Mike! said:
Wasn't sure where to post this, but since it involves 'Q' balls, I figured here was as good a place as any...


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...513.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb&tsrc=fb
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Not surprising, as there were over 6,000 funders, but that wouldn't make the headlines.

From - https://www.sltrib.com/artsliving/2023/08/04/provo-company-behind-sound-freedom/:

In a statement issued Friday, Angel Studios’ CEO Neal Harmon said his company “adhered to the requirements of federal and state laws and regulations in allowing 6,678 people to invest an average of $501 each into the launch of ‘Sound of Freedom.’”
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Yeah, but this guy funded some $5 million of its budget. This isn’t some rando donating $20 on gofundme.
 
kookbreaker said:
Yeah, I misread things.
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Appreciate the honesty. Now, for the record, I know Qanon is pretty idiotic, but in our criticism. praise or in-betweens for any subject, we must continue to strive for accuracy and truth. And, IMHO, one of the hardest things to do is to admit and publicly acknowledge our mistakes. Still, when one does so, it is a clear sign of honesty and integrity. Thank you.
 
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