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Matt Gaetz reported to be leaving the House

The first few TwiX posts I saw (of the 518K currently - is that a record???) were defending the ◊◊◊◊ bag. I didn't need to read any more.
 
How could an experienced politician like Gaetz not know how things would turn out? Was he really thinking that he could sneak in via a recess appointment?
 
Makes me muse on what the over-under is on Gov. DeSantis appointing him senator.
Really hard to say. On one hand, he's an obnoxious, unloved dweeb mired in just about the worst possible scandal. On the other hand, it would piss off the libs.

As someone once said, a Republican would eat a turd if there was a chance that a Democrat would have to smell their breath.
 
How could an experienced politician like Gaetz not know how things would turn out? Was he really thinking that he could sneak in via a recess appointment?
The answer's always no until you try! Seriously though, I think they expect the public to just ignore the ◊◊◊◊◊◊ stuff and confirm them anyway.
 
If we go with the theory that Gaetz really did fear the ethics investigation report, then mooting it by resigning preserves his electability to a greater extent that if he had been ousted like George Santos. Under that presumption, it's not hard to believe that Gaetz massaged Donald Trump's ego, promising him to pursue all his fantasy prosecutions, to dismantle the FBI, and so forth. That's enough to earn Gaetz the nomination and give a convincing cover story for his resignation from Congress. I'm not convince there's a fully-formed devious master plan for getting all the Trump nominees through the Senate, but I expect recess appointment is on the table. But perhaps the reality of Gaetz' overall unlikability is just a bridge too far. But he is still more electable this way, and may be Florida's Senate appointment.
 
So he removes himself from consideration. What does that say about his future? Just fighting allegations full time?
 
So he removes himself from consideration. What does that say about his future? Just fighting allegations full time?
It's extremely unlikely that he fails downward. If he isn't directly in politics, he'll be in something adjacent, like a lobbying firm or some kind of right-wing media personality.
 
He's already been appointed; the question is whether he will be confirmed. I say there won't even be a vote.

Collins and Murkowski have already announced they will be no votes. The rest seem to be using the warning language of not seeing a path, and the uphill climb ahead. At some point Gaetz will ask to pull the nomination rather than suffering the humiliation. Again, I see Gaetz as almost intended to be the nomination that Republican senators can use to demonstrate their independence of Trump, so the rest of his cabinet can sail through.
Called it.
 
If we go with the theory that Gaetz really did fear the ethics investigation report, then mooting it by resigning preserves his electability to a greater extent that if he had been ousted like George Santos. Under that presumption, it's not hard to believe that Gaetz massaged Donald Trump's ego, promising him to pursue all his fantasy prosecutions, to dismantle the FBI, and so forth. That's enough to earn Gaetz the nomination and give a convincing cover story for his resignation from Congress. I'm not convince there's a fully-formed devious master plan for getting all the Trump nominees through the Senate, but I expect recess appointment is on the table. But perhaps the reality of Gaetz' overall unlikability is just a bridge too far. But he is still more electable this way, and may be Florida's Senate appointment.
Why would DeSantis want to tie his fortunes to Gaetz? Gaetz's political future is somewhat comparable to Anthony Weiner's at this point; both exist only in their alleged minds.
 
Makes me muse on what the over-under is on Gov. DeSantis appointing him senator.
Several prominent Republicans, including Florida's other senator, had been pushing Lara Trump. Gaetz might present a way of appointing a Trump sycophant without the obviousness of appointing a relative of Trump.
 

Makes me muse on what the over-under is on Gov. DeSantis appointing him senator.

Not likely from what I have read. Gaetz just has too much baggage there are other conservatives wihtout the baggage, andtumot has it that Gaetz and De Santis don;t like each other, despite the public posing together.
 
How could an experienced politician like Gaetz not know how things would turn out? Was he really thinking that he could sneak in via a recess appointment?
Recess is Gratz’s favourite time of the day.

Anyway, I have always wondered what the GOP would do when some of the whackos they have around them are no longer useful and the obvious answer is they can get Madison Cawthorned. They even have their own kompromat to make them better hatchet-men. MTG and Lauren Bimbo are the same. They can be as outrageous as they want but no sooner does the GOP realize they have outserved their purpose they can be gone and none of the people defending them until 5 minutes ago will care.
 
I fear that Trump/Gaetz are caving on this in return for Congress Republicans agreeing to let him have the other nutjobs as Recess Appointments.
 
How could an experienced politician like Gaetz not know how things would turn out? Was he really thinking that he could sneak in via a recess appointment?

Recess is Gratz’s favourite time of the day.

Anyway, I have always wondered what the GOP would do when some of the whackos they have around them are no longer useful and the obvious answer is they can get Madison Cawthorned. They even have their own kompromat to make them better hatchet-men. MTG and Lauren Bimbo are the same. They can be as outrageous as they want but no sooner does the GOP realize they have outserved their purpose they can be gone and none of the people defending them until 5 minutes ago will care.
The problem is the inmates are now running the asylum. Thw Traditonal GOPers horribly miscaluclated their abilty to use and control the nutjobs.
 
ANyway, when the report leaks, which of course it will, it is going to make some interesting reading.
I guess the rumors there are conprimisng photos in the report might well be true.
 
The problem is the inmates are now running the asylum. Thw Traditonal GOPers horribly miscaluclated their abilty to use and control the nutjobs.
No, I think Gaetz has no power. The manipulators are people like Trump and the MAGA wing. They will use these idiots until no longer needed.
 
Some people here are giving Trump way too much credit for being clever.
I think hh honestly though he could force Gaetz's nomination through.
 
If I were to bet, I'd bet on Gaetz's forgoing the Senate seat and running for governor in two years. If he becomes a senator, then the Senate Ethics Committee will just pick up where the House Ethics Committee left off. But if he's out of Congress altogether, he won't have to worry about that, plus he can concentrate on fundraising and putting together a statewide campaign organization for the next two years.
 
Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA), who characterized Gaetz's nomination as "God-tier level trolling," has had far and away the best hot take so far on the withdrawal. From Real Clear Politics:

SEN. JOHN FETTERMAN: Holy ****! I didn't see that coming!

I mean, yes he was the ultimate troll, and people have the opportunity to freak out over a thing and respond if you want to do that. But you'd better pace yourself, because it is not even Thanksgiving. And we don't have to react and take unserious things so seriously, that the world is going to spin off its axis, the way it is right now.

But I just heard something, I heard that Trump is going to issue a new silver dollar to commemorate that, so I think that's going to be the next cycle.

🤣
 
Recess is Gratz’s favourite time of the day.
It's the only time he can see his girlfriend.

Lots of great comments here on why Senator Gaetz is unlikely to happen. In our haste to divine the master plan, I think we have to keep in mind that Donald Trump is most often a chaos agent. There may not be, or ever was, a master plan that involves Matt Gaetz.
 
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This made me laugh my ass off just because he's walking out of the door while it's saying he's withdrawing. I laughed way more than I should at work.
 
It's the only time he can see his girlfriend.

Lots of great comments here on why Senator Gaetz is unlikely to happen. In our haste to divine the master plan, I think we have to keep in mind that Donald Trump is most often a chaos agent. There may not be, or ever was, a master plan that involves Matt Gaetz.
I completely agree. I mean, ultimately, Matt Gaetz triggers the libs, and that's it. It's been fun, but when all is said and done, nobody really likes him and he has no leverage over anyone, so his fifteen minutes of fame could be up. He'll probably pop up, Sarah Palin-like, on talk shows and maybe try to stay relevant with edgy tweets, but let's face it, that's a crowded market place.

I'd like to say it was nice knowing him, but that would be ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊.

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If I were to bet, I'd bet on Gaetz's forgoing the Senate seat and running for governor in two years. If he becomes a senator, then the Senate Ethics Committee will just pick up where the House Ethics Committee left off. But if he's out of Congress altogether, he won't have to worry about that, plus he can concentrate on fundraising and putting together a statewide campaign organization for the next two years.
Oh he might just give up elected office, and go after the big bucks in Right wing media.
 
So he removes himself from consideration. What does that say about his future? Just fighting allegations full time?
Gaetz is a big time nepo-baby (in all senses of that word). Even if T****y doesn't oblige, daddy has enough leverage over Brave Sir RonDa to make Matty baby a senator.
 
I am genuinely surprised that Gaetz had the self-awareness to withdraw from the nomination process and/or that Republican senators signalled that they were willing to impede this appointment.
 
I am genuinely surprised that Gaetz had the self-awareness to withdraw from the nomination process and/or that Republican senators signalled that they were willing to impede this appointment.
Gaetz is indeed a massive A-hole and and a Class-One creep. But he is also not entirely stupid. And he can read.
 
Gaetz is indeed a massive A-hole and and a Class-One creep. But he is also not entirely stupid. And he can read.
All of the above is true but I thought that he'd take the Trump path of simply denying everything regardless of the level of evidence against him.
 
All of the above is true but I thought that he'd take the Trump path of simply denying everything regardless of the level of evidence against him.
Like most of MAGA, Gaetz is also a coward. As is Trump, but that's another discussion. Such dicks are only trying it on as far as they think they can get away with stuff - pushing the envelope. Because Gaetz knows that if he pushed on too far, that report would indeed leak, and his life could quite suddenly compress to a 10-foot cell for a few dozen years. And Donny would not be his friend any more nor bail him out. Because he was a loser.
 
I just read an article on the Daily Beast that said he could still take the seat in the house come January. The logic goes something like this, he resigned from his current house session seat, but, since he was just reelected to that seat in the upcoming house session, which hasn't started yet, he could still take it, because it's not the one he resigned from. I don't know if that line of thought is in fact possible or not, but that was what they were proposing. That same article included a comment from Gaetz's wife that implied he was done with politics altogether.
We can only hope that's the case.
 
According to an article in Politico, Trump's selection of Gaetz was pretty much a spur-of-the-moment decision. Easily believable, given Trump's past.

IMHO, it is unfortunate that this happened so fast. It was only in the news for a week, so many people will have forgotten about it by January.
Does this make him Trump's quickest ever firing of one of his "only the best people"?
 
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