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Makes me muse on what the over-under is on Gov. DeSantis appointing him senator.
Really hard to say. On one hand, he's an obnoxious, unloved dweeb mired in just about the worst possible scandal. On the other hand, it would piss off the libs.Makes me muse on what the over-under is on Gov. DeSantis appointing him senator.
The answer's always no until you try! Seriously though, I think they expect the public to just ignore the ◊◊◊◊◊◊ stuff and confirm them anyway.How could an experienced politician like Gaetz not know how things would turn out? Was he really thinking that he could sneak in via a recess appointment?
It's extremely unlikely that he fails downward. If he isn't directly in politics, he'll be in something adjacent, like a lobbying firm or some kind of right-wing media personality.So he removes himself from consideration. What does that say about his future? Just fighting allegations full time?
Called it.He's already been appointed; the question is whether he will be confirmed. I say there won't even be a vote.
Collins and Murkowski have already announced they will be no votes. The rest seem to be using the warning language of not seeing a path, and the uphill climb ahead. At some point Gaetz will ask to pull the nomination rather than suffering the humiliation. Again, I see Gaetz as almost intended to be the nomination that Republican senators can use to demonstrate their independence of Trump, so the rest of his cabinet can sail through.
Why would DeSantis want to tie his fortunes to Gaetz? Gaetz's political future is somewhat comparable to Anthony Weiner's at this point; both exist only in their alleged minds.If we go with the theory that Gaetz really did fear the ethics investigation report, then mooting it by resigning preserves his electability to a greater extent that if he had been ousted like George Santos. Under that presumption, it's not hard to believe that Gaetz massaged Donald Trump's ego, promising him to pursue all his fantasy prosecutions, to dismantle the FBI, and so forth. That's enough to earn Gaetz the nomination and give a convincing cover story for his resignation from Congress. I'm not convince there's a fully-formed devious master plan for getting all the Trump nominees through the Senate, but I expect recess appointment is on the table. But perhaps the reality of Gaetz' overall unlikability is just a bridge too far. But he is still more electable this way, and may be Florida's Senate appointment.
Several prominent Republicans, including Florida's other senator, had been pushing Lara Trump. Gaetz might present a way of appointing a Trump sycophant without the obviousness of appointing a relative of Trump.Makes me muse on what the over-under is on Gov. DeSantis appointing him senator.
I think I called it before you:Called it.
Has no one watched House Of Cards?
Gaetz is an impossible choice, deliberately offered to make them feel good and powerful when they reject him. So that Trump can place his actual choice afterwards without much or any opposition.
Makes me muse on what the over-under is on Gov. DeSantis appointing him senator.
Recess is Gratz’s favourite time of the day.How could an experienced politician like Gaetz not know how things would turn out? Was he really thinking that he could sneak in via a recess appointment?
How could an experienced politician like Gaetz not know how things would turn out? Was he really thinking that he could sneak in via a recess appointment?
The problem is the inmates are now running the asylum. Thw Traditonal GOPers horribly miscaluclated their abilty to use and control the nutjobs.Recess is Gratz’s favourite time of the day.
Anyway, I have always wondered what the GOP would do when some of the whackos they have around them are no longer useful and the obvious answer is they can get Madison Cawthorned. They even have their own kompromat to make them better hatchet-men. MTG and Lauren Bimbo are the same. They can be as outrageous as they want but no sooner does the GOP realize they have outserved their purpose they can be gone and none of the people defending them until 5 minutes ago will care.
No, I think Gaetz has no power. The manipulators are people like Trump and the MAGA wing. They will use these idiots until no longer needed.The problem is the inmates are now running the asylum. Thw Traditonal GOPers horribly miscaluclated their abilty to use and control the nutjobs.
His girlfriend recently won a seat on her high school student council so perhaps he can find a role there.It's extremely unlikely that he fails downward. If he isn't directly in politics, he'll be in something adjacent, like a lobbying firm or some kind of right-wing media personality.
I never belonged to Twitter and since Musk bought it, it's just become a right-wing cesspool.The first few TwiX posts I saw (of the 518K currently - is that a record???) were defending the ◊◊◊◊ bag. I didn't need to read any more.
It's the only time he can see his girlfriend.Recess is Gratz’s favourite time of the day.
I completely agree. I mean, ultimately, Matt Gaetz triggers the libs, and that's it. It's been fun, but when all is said and done, nobody really likes him and he has no leverage over anyone, so his fifteen minutes of fame could be up. He'll probably pop up, Sarah Palin-like, on talk shows and maybe try to stay relevant with edgy tweets, but let's face it, that's a crowded market place.It's the only time he can see his girlfriend.
Lots of great comments here on why Senator Gaetz is unlikely to happen. In our haste to divine the master plan, I think we have to keep in mind that Donald Trump is most often a chaos agent. There may not be, or ever was, a master plan that involves Matt Gaetz.
Oh he might just give up elected office, and go after the big bucks in Right wing media.If I were to bet, I'd bet on Gaetz's forgoing the Senate seat and running for governor in two years. If he becomes a senator, then the Senate Ethics Committee will just pick up where the House Ethics Committee left off. But if he's out of Congress altogether, he won't have to worry about that, plus he can concentrate on fundraising and putting together a statewide campaign organization for the next two years.
DeSantis has fortunes?Why would DeSantis want to tie his fortunes to Gaetz? Gaetz's political future is somewhat comparable to Anthony Weiner's at this point; both exist only in their alleged minds.
Gaetz is a big time nepo-baby (in all senses of that word). Even if T****y doesn't oblige, daddy has enough leverage over Brave Sir RonDa to make Matty baby a senator.So he removes himself from consideration. What does that say about his future? Just fighting allegations full time?
He DOES look like the DA in The People vs Fred Jones - who also spends a lot of time walking out the door of the courtroom...View attachment 57821
This made me laugh my ass off just because he's walking out of the door while it's saying he's withdrawing. I laughed way more than I should at work.
Gaetz is indeed a massive A-hole and and a Class-One creep. But he is also not entirely stupid. And he can read.I am genuinely surprised that Gaetz had the self-awareness to withdraw from the nomination process and/or that Republican senators signalled that they were willing to impede this appointment.
All of the above is true but I thought that he'd take the Trump path of simply denying everything regardless of the level of evidence against him.Gaetz is indeed a massive A-hole and and a Class-One creep. But he is also not entirely stupid. And he can read.
Like most of MAGA, Gaetz is also a coward. As is Trump, but that's another discussion. Such dicks are only trying it on as far as they think they can get away with stuff - pushing the envelope. Because Gaetz knows that if he pushed on too far, that report would indeed leak, and his life could quite suddenly compress to a 10-foot cell for a few dozen years. And Donny would not be his friend any more nor bail him out. Because he was a loser.All of the above is true but I thought that he'd take the Trump path of simply denying everything regardless of the level of evidence against him.
Does this make him Trump's quickest ever firing of one of his "only the best people"?According to an article in Politico, Trump's selection of Gaetz was pretty much a spur-of-the-moment decision. Easily believable, given Trump's past.
IMHO, it is unfortunate that this happened so fast. It was only in the news for a week, so many people will have forgotten about it by January.