Georgia has new gun law.

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I predict a rise in gun violence and shooting deaths will happen in Georgia following the law that was just passed in Georgia that allows licensed gun carriers to:

Carry in bars.
Carry in schools.
Carry in public owned buildings.
Face no scrutiny or prosecution if they try to carry through TSA.
Expansion of stand-your-ground (immunity from prosecution for self-defense shootings)


Also, Law Enforcement is not allowed to ask a person with a gun for their carrier license unless they believe that person is planning or doing a crime.

The law repeals regulation of firearm dealers.

Owners of private establishments have to inform gun owners that they cannot carry at their place of business at the individual level if they don't want guns in their business.

Read the entire law here:
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2014/04/11/gun_bill_report.pdf
 
thaiboxerken said:
I predict a rise in gun violence and shooting deaths will happen in Georgia following the law that was just passed in Georgia that allows licensed gun carriers to:

Carry in bars.
Carry in schools.
Carry in public owned buildings.
Face no scrutiny or prosecution if they try to carry through TSA.
Expansion of stand-your-ground (immunity from prosecution for self-defense shootings)


Also, Law Enforcement is not allowed to ask a person with a gun for their carrier license unless they believe that person is planning or doing a crime.

The law repeals regulation of firearm dealers.

Owners of private establishments have to inform gun owners that they cannot carry at their place of business at the individual level if they don't want guns in their business.

Read the entire law here:
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2014/04/11/gun_bill_report.pdf
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If gun advocates are correct, and more guns equals less crime, then Georgia should see a dramatic drop in crime in relation to the rest of the country. If crime goes up, and especially gun crime, then will people rethink this? I sort of doubt it, but it's a perfect experiment.

Wow.
 
thaiboxerken said:
I predict a rise in gun violence and shooting deaths will happen in Georgia ....
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Can you show me any studies that show how that happened in other areas that loosened gun laws? Please?

eta- Pretty please?
 
casebro said:
Can you show me any studies that show how that happened in other areas that loosened gun laws? Please?

eta- Pretty please?
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http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-deaths-in-florida-increased-with-stand-your-ground-2014-2

Gun deaths in Florida started out high in the 1990s (when crime was higher everywhere in America) and gradually declined throughout the decade and into the 2000s. Then, in 2005, when the stand your ground law was enacted, murders involving firearms spiked by more than 200 in two years.
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But let's let this one play out and see how it goes. All we have to do is avoid Georgia for the next ten years and we'll be fine.
 
Wow!

The Devil went to down to Georgia to exercise his Second Admendment Rights,
So he went to bar and found guns.
So he went into a school and found more guns.
So he went into a church and found even more guns.
Then he flew home with the guns in his luggage because the of new TSA restrictions.
 
Has the governor signed it? I see it revokes some of his powers...
 
thaiboxerken said:
I predict a rise in gun violence and shooting deaths will happen in Georgia following the law that was just passed in Georgia that allows licensed gun carriers to:

Carry in bars.
Carry in schools.
Carry in public owned buildings.
Face no scrutiny or prosecution if they try to carry through TSA.
Expansion of stand-your-ground (immunity from prosecution for self-defense shootings)


Also, Law Enforcement is not allowed to ask a person with a gun for their carrier license unless they believe that person is planning or doing a crime.

The law repeals regulation of firearm dealers.

Owners of private establishments have to inform gun owners that they cannot carry at their place of business at the individual level if they don't want guns in their business.

Read the entire law here:
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2014/04/11/gun_bill_report.pdf
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The link is to the GA Senate Research Office's summary of the bill. Better links to the bill/law are here;
http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20132014/HB/60
http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20132014/144825.pdf

HB60 is a lengthy bill and these links do not show the entire sections of the code that are amended.

The bill makes the GA General Assembly the sole regulator of gun dealers, it doesn't repeal state regulations of gun dealers.

Ranb
 
Cleon said:
He's signing it today.

My prediction is that this will have a negligible effect on violent crime.
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Thanks. And I think you're right. Predictions of everything going full-on Mogadishu remind me of predictions of overflowing ERs if drugs were suddenly legal.
 
Polaris said:
Thanks. And I think you're right. Predictions of everything going full-on Mogadishu remind me of predictions of overflowing ERs if drugs were suddenly legal.
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That's a straw man. I predict gun murders will rise in Georgia, or if they fall, it be because they fall nationwide but will fall much slower in Georgia than in other states. Certainly if I'm wrong, this thread will be here for you to gloat over.
 
The Georgia Senate just wants to ensure that when Atlanta falls in the upcoming zombie apocalypse, it's citizens are properly armed to protect themselves.

:)
 
Unabogie said:
That's a straw man. I predict gun murders will rise in Georgia, or if they fall, it be because they fall nationwide but will fall much slower in Georgia than in other states. Certainly if I'm wrong, this thread will be here for you to gloat over.
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While technically correct, I don't think one or two more gun murders than average was what ken had in mind.
 
Polaris said:
While technically correct, I don't think one or two more gun murders than average was what ken had in mind.
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According what Una posted before it rose by 200 in Florida. I don't think anyone is saying it will turn into the wild wild west, but it'll give a strong data set to monitor and pull information from.
 
plague311 said:
According what Una posted before it rose by 200 in Florida. I don't think anyone is saying it will turn into the wild wild west, but it'll give a strong data set to monitor and pull information from.
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I'll be curious to see what happens. There are parts of the bill that make me uneasy, FWIW.
 
Cleon said:
...After SYG passed. The Georgia version of SYG passed in 2006, and there has been no corresponding increase like the one in Florida.
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But as it continues to widen will that effect the way SYG functions in Georgia? Allowing guns in schools, in my opinion, is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard of in my entire life. I can't even imagine a situation where it's justified (without there being an attack, obviously, or a police response to a situation). That's my own personal opinion. If I found out there were armed parents walking into my son's school and no one was doing anything to change or stop it I would immediately pull my son from that school and send him elsewhere. It's moronic.
 
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I am rather curious on how Georgia can overrule the TSA on air travel. Not that I care as I loathe the TSA for all the idiocy they have done and their general incompetence, just curious.
 
Unabogie said:
If gun advocates are correct, and more guns equals less crime, then Georgia should see a dramatic drop in crime in relation to the rest of the country. If crime goes up, and especially gun crime, then will people rethink this? I sort of doubt it, but it's a perfect experiment.

Wow.
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I agree. They will just point to an increase in gun violence as a justification for the law.
 
fuelair said:
I am rather curious on how Georgia can overrule the TSA on air travel. Not that I care as I loathe the TSA for all the idiocy they have done and their general incompetence, just curious.
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The bill doesn't allow you to carry the gun through the TSA checkpoint, but everywhere else in the airport. IE, if you're carrying and you go to pick up someone flying in, you're not going to be arrested if you don't take it off when you go in to get them.
 
fuelair said:
I am rather curious on how Georgia can overrule the TSA on air travel. Not that I care as I loathe the TSA for all the idiocy they have done and their general incompetence, just curious.
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They obviously can't. What I think this does is simply take the local laws out of the picture. Federal laws still stand.

I can't wait until some yahoo tries to challenge that.
 
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