Shoe Thrown at Hillary Clinton

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A Phoenix woman is accused of throwing a shoe at Hillary Clinton at a Las Vegas convention appearance on Friday. The shoe was thrown from a distance of about sixty feet and missed its intended target. The thirty-six-year-old woman was then arrested by Secret Service agents and turned over to Las Vegas police.

Alison Michelle Ernst, 36, was given a misdemeanor disorderly conduct summons and freed after she was booked at the Clark County jail, according to a Las Vegas police arrest report. "Ms. Ernst appeared to be in an agitated state but aware of what she had just done," the report said. Link
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This was my favorite post in the reader comments section of the local paper:

It's laughable...outraged at a shoe being thrown at their beloved Mrs. Clinton? No outrage from her over the Benghazi scandal, oh yeah who the hell cares...Give me a break.
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Benghazi! ;)
 
Mike! said:
"What difference does it make?"
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You consider shoe-throwing an acceptable form of political speech?

What is ironic is that the Clintons live in Chappaqua NY (Hillary was one of our U.S. Senators) and the local paper includes Chappaqua in it's coverage. Their journalist went out and interviewed people there Saturday and most said it was deplorable. However, the entries in the local news' Reader Comments' are running about four or five to one against Hillary.

Why all the hate?
 
newyorkguy said:
You consider shoe-throwing an acceptable form of political speech?

What is ironic is that the Clintons live in Chappaqua NY (Hillary was one of our U.S. Senators) and the local paper includes Chappaqua in it's coverage. Their journalist went out and interviewed people there Saturday and most said it was deplorable. However, the entries in the local news' Reader Comments' are running about four or five to one against Hillary.

Why all the hate?
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You're missing the "out of context comment from Clinton turned into common knowledge among all conservatives that Hillary is history's greatest monster" reference.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...t-hillary-clintons-what-difference-does-it-m/
 
Most politicians should have something thrown at them from time to time, and once in a while it should hit.
 
Did the shoe fit? Anyway...
 

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Perhaps she was hoping to achieve the same results as the greatest shoe-throw in cinematic history?



Also one of the greatest movies ever made!
 
Mike! said:
Unless it was some form of deadly spike heel job...
"What difference does it make?"
Sounds like an amateur effort anyway.
Here's how the Pros do it!
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Did ABC World News run a segment with the headline "folk hero?" while showing an image of the woman who threw the shoe at Hillary as they did when Bush had shoes thrown at him?

I'm certain I don't even have to look to find the answer to that question.
 
Bogative said:
Did ABC World News run a segment with the headline "folk hero?" as they did when Bush had shoes thrown at him?...
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Can you provide something to show that this actually happened? Or at least provide some context?

Namely, was ABC World News calling al-Zaidi (the Iraqi journalist who threw a shoe at Bush) a folk hero or instead reporting that some people in the Arab world considered him a folk hero? Which, whether we Americans like it or not, happens to be true.
 
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I view it as an opportunity to demonstrate athletics. You saw Bush bust his grooves playing dodge shoe in Iraq, Hillary clearly has a one-up on the moves here.
 
newyorkguy said:
Namely, was ABC World News calling al-Zaidi (the Iraqi journalist who threw a shoe at Bush) a folk hero or instead reporting that some people in the Arab world considered him a folk hero? Which, whether we Americans like it or not, happens to be true.
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Seems this was it. Despite the indignant tone of Bogative's link, it seems as though ABC were reporting how the guy was considered a folk hero by other Iraqis.
 
Bogative said:
Here you go.
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No quote? Have to open and look? Okay very nice, from the site that exposes liberal media bias. Excellent source. :boggled:


ABC put “Folk Hero?” on screen as fill-in anchor Elizabeth Vargas trumpeted how Muntathar al-Zaidi has “become an instant celebrity to many of his countrymen” while CBS anchor Katie Couric hailed how “many Iraqis are calling him a hero” before reporter Elizabeth Palmer snidely concluded: “Al-Zaidi should do jail time, said the Iraqi bloggers, because he missed.”
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It sounds to me like they were reporting news.
 
uke2se said:
Seems this was it. Despite the indignant tone of Bogative's link, it seems as though ABC were reporting how the guy was considered a folk hero by other Iraqis.
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Yes and despite the blowhards who are thrilled that someone threw a shoe at Hillary Clinton, not even any of them seem to be "hailing" whats-her-name as an instant celebrity. I don't think even Fox News would try and 'report':

Alison Ernst is being hailed as a folk hero tonight by many Americans after she threw a shoe at Hillary Clinton at a convention in Las Vegas.
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newyorkguy said:
No quote? Have to open and look?
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You asked me if I could show if it actually happened. Now you're moaning and groaning because you have to open the actual link you asked for?:confused:

Okay very nice, from the site that exposes liberal media bias. Excellent source. :boggled:
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Yeah, about the source… I checked the Daily Kos and Maddow blog, couldn't find a link to one of the major networks airing a story about people questioning whether the shoe thrower was a folk hero or not.




newyorkguy said:
Yes and despite the blowhards who are thrilled that someone threw a shoe at Hillary Clinton, not even any of them seem to be "hailing" whats-her-name as an instant celebrity. I don't think even Fox News would try and 'report':
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Now you're starting to get it.
 
Bogative said:
You asked me if I could show if it actually happened. Now you're moaning and groaning because you have to open the actual link you asked for?:confused:
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What a totally dishonest argument. I asked you if ABC World News ran a segment calling al-Zaidi a folk hero or if they reported that in the Arab World some people (not all because the Iraqis put the folk hero in jail) were saying he was a folk hero.

Bogative said:
Now you're starting to get it.
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Sure. You're trying to "argue" that American media -- because of their hatred of conservatives -- hailed the Iraqi who threw a shoe at George Bush as a "folk hero." Yet the same American media will not hail the seemingly emotionally disturbed American woman who threw a shoe at Hillary Clinton as a folk hero (even though no one is calling her a folk hero)?

That they should do it anyway in order to "even things up." Is that about it? :boggled:
 
newyorkguy said:
Yet the same American media will not hail the seemingly emotionally disturbed American woman who threw a shoe at Hillary Clinton as a folk hero?
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Did I write "seemingly?"

I don't know if the New York Daily News could be considered part of the "liberal media" (I know the News would vehemently deny it) but here's how they describe Ms. Ernst:

Before a wig-wearing nutjob threw a shoe at Hillary Clinton, the footwear flinger gave her heart to accused Colorado mass killer James Holmes. Alison Ernst, 36, of Phoenix, was identified Friday as the sneaker-tossing kook who targeted the former First Lady one day earlier during a speech at a Las Vegas casino. And Colorado officials confirmed she was the loopy lady escorted from the courtroom after a bizarre — and bald-headed — outburst during an August 2012 court hearing for Holmes. Link
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Ms. Ernst interrupted the Colorado court hearing to claim she had "evidence of judicial misconduct on behalf of the public defender." She was then escorted from the courtroom by police. Link
 
newyorkguy said:
What a totally dishonest argument. I asked you if ABC World News ran a segment calling al-Zaidi a folk hero or if they reported that in the Arab World some people (not all because the Iraqis put the folk hero in jail) were saying he was a folk hero.
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And I provided you with a link to answer your question. It should've been obvious when I put ABC's headline "folk hero?" in quotations that they were not explicitly calling the guy a folk hero.

Just by running the story about people in Iraq hailing the man who threw the shoes at Bush as a folk hero lends an amount of credence which indicates a bias against Bush.

You seem to agree with this by claiming that even Fox wouldn't stoop to running a story about Americans calling Alison Ernst a folk hero for throwing a shoe at Clinton, someone disliked by conservatives.



Sure. You're trying to "argue" that American media -- because of their hatred of conservatives -- hailed the Iraqi who threw a shoe at George Bush as a "folk hero." Yet the same American media will not hail the seemingly emotionally disturbed American woman who threw a shoe at Hillary Clinton as a folk hero (even though no one is calling her a folk hero)?

That they should do it anyway in order to "even things up." Is that about it? :boggled:
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Pretty much.
 
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