Baby rapist put on probation

Am I the only one intermittently afflicted with the mental image of a rapist baby? Some sort of cross between Look Who's Talking and Child's Play? I keep thinking, "probation? The little guy should get a serious time out!"
 
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This isn't at all germane to the discussion, but do people normally refer to 3 year olds as babies (other than as a term of endearment)?
 
Roger Ramjets said:
The judge was right. Given the crime he was convicted of, the sentence is appropriate. This man may be an incurable pedophile. But putting him in prison would only make him worse, and it certainly won't stop others from committing similar abuses. A prison sentence would have not have done any good in this case. But of course then we wouldn't have heard about it.

"Baby Rapist Put on Probation" though, that's pure gold. The judge has actually done everyone a favor, because now we've got our daily dose of outrage!!!, and the news media makes another killing...
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Er, the fact that such a heinous... thing, has been released into society is something to be outraged about. Besides, I doubt you can "get worse" than a baby rapist.
 
3point14 said:
Random 'justice' at the whim of the criminally convicted.

Yeah, fantastic idea... (where's the sarcasm smiley?)
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Not needed, justice is. If it is at the hands of criminally convicted I am amazingly unconcerned.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
Er, the fact that such a heinous... thing, has been released into society is something to be outraged about. Besides, I doubt you can "get worse" than a baby rapist.
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Unfortunately you can, but not by much. Just think baby rapist, torturer and murderer. For starts - and remember if he was willing to rape children he is very likely to do it again. What happens to him next time? 30 days for general mopery? I do hope he get's what is coming to him - soon and in this plane of existence and time consuming to help concentrate his attention.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
So how the hell are you supposed to deal with things like in the OP? Put them in their mansion for the rest of their life while they live in the lap of luxury? Besides, it would be a good way to save taxpayer money when it comes to these things.
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Prison violence and retribution fantasies are not funny. We're still talking about a human being.

I agree with the judge he doesn't belong in prison. The guy is a pedophile; he has a psychiatric condition. He should not be in prison, he should get forced psychiatric treatment, until he is cured of his condition.

Too bad for him pedophilia is not curable.
 
ddt said:
Prison violence and retribution fantasies are not funny. We're still talking about a human being.

I agree with the judge he doesn't belong in prison. The guy is a pedophile; he has a psychiatric condition. He should not be in prison, he should get forced psychiatric treatment, until he is cured of his condition.

Too bad for him pedophilia is not curable.
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It only got off light because it was rich. A poor man would be getting the book thrown at him. Besides, when a father abuses their own babies, they have forfeited being considered part of humanity. So why should abuse of children carry no prison time?

And I like how people come in and try to excuse even the most vile criminals as being "mentally ill". In cases like this, society is much better off if they got a bullet to a head.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
It only got off light because it was rich. A poor man would be getting the book thrown at him.
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It very much looks like that. Class justice. I fully agree with you that that is repulsive.
NWO Sentryman said:
Besides, when a father abuses their own babies, they have forfeited being considered part of humanity.
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Cliché, but a civilization is measured i how it treats its enemies.

NWO Sentryman said:
So why should abuse of children carry no prison time?

And I like how people come in and try to excuse even the most vile criminals as being "mentally ill". In cases like this, society is much better off if they got a bullet to a head.
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Have you missed what I actually advocated? That the guy be locked up for life. Just not in the big house, but in the loony bin. Yes, pedophilia is a psychiatric condition: he has an innate urge to sexually assault children. That is quite unlike, say, a burglar, who has no innate urge to burgle.
 
1) Agreed.

2) So why is that more important than, handling crises or ensuring prosperity (because if you look hard enough, every country has failed that test).

3) Except, the Insanity Defence does not work that way. For it to apply, a murderer has to believe that they are actually slashing a melon.
 
Tracy Richards, who confronted her then-husband, told police he admitted abusing his daughter but said "it was an accident and he would never do it again," the warrant said.
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Seriously, I was just watching some old Mr. Belvedere reruns and at this one commercial break I looked down and noticed I was molesting my daughter! I was like, OMG, awkward LOL!
 
ddt said:
Prison violence and retribution fantasies are not funny. We're still talking about a human being.

I agree with the judge he doesn't belong in prison. The guy is a pedophile; he has a psychiatric condition. He should not be in prison, he should get forced psychiatric treatment, until he is cured of his condition.

Too bad for him pedophilia is not curable.
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Pedophilia is a psychiatric condition. Raping babies is a choice. I thought justice meant we punish people for wrong choices.

What's to keep someone from getting forced treatment while in prison?

A pedophile who hasn't hurt anyone and checks into a mental hospital to receive help ought to not be sent to jail. See the difference?
 
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2) So why is that more important than, handling crises or ensuring prosperity (because if you look hard enough, every country has failed that test).
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That doesn't mean you shouldn't strive to pass the test as much as possible.
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3) Except, the Insanity Defence does not work that way. For it to apply, a murderer has to believe that they are actually slashing a melon.
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I'm not advocating the verdict should be "not guilty by reason of insanity". I'm advocating a guilty verdict, with sentence forced psychiatric treatment.
 
Kahalachan said:
Pedophilia is a psychiatric condition. Raping babies is a choice. I thought justice meant we punish people for wrong choices.
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I agree. But we can try to choose an appropriate punishment. Curing the underlying psychiatric condition means no urges anymore to rape babies.

Kahalachan said:
What's to keep someone from getting forced treatment while in prison?[
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Is prison an appropriate environment for that? Specialized psychiatric institutions would be more suited.
Kahalachan said:
A pedophile who hasn't hurt anyone and checks into a mental hospital to receive help ought to not be sent to jail. See the difference?
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And that pedophile can walk out of the treatment at any moment he wants. Someone on forced psychiatric treatment cannot until the judge decides so (on advice of the treating psychiatrist). I was thinking of how the Dutch TBS system works (or not).
 
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