Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?

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Michel H said:
You only go consult a doctor when you think they will provide you with reliable information, and not try to impose a "society view" on some phenomena. You don't consult a person when you suspect this person might lie to you, deceive you, or criminally "prescribe" to you dangerous and inappropriate medication.
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You are not restricted to going to a single doctor. You could go to 2, or 10.

Are you suggesting they would all lie and give incorrect information?

Why would they do this?

How would they coordinate their efforts?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Unfortunately, though perhaps inevitably, he doesn't accept that he failed.
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I find his behavior indicates he probably knows he isn't telepathic, but is just looking for something to hang on to. Why else devise such a silly test? Why insist on applying a data manipulation technique, for which he admits there are not protocols, after the fact? I person convinced of his abilities doesn't act the way Michel is acting.
 
Michel H said:
You only go consult a doctor when you think they will provide you with reliable information, and not try to impose a "society view" on some phenomena. You don't consult a person when you suspect this person might lie to you, deceive you, or criminally "prescribe" to you dangerous and inappropriate medication.
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So you can not discount mundane explanations for the sensations you describe? Then we have no reason to discount them either and for many this conversation will be meaningless because you can not discredit the most obvious solution.

Yes. I think you should consult a doctor becayse they will provide you with reliable information on other explanations of why you may be hearing voices. That you do not think you will like what they will have to say, or believe it, is not reason enough to assume they may be wrong or make allegations of criminality.
 
Michel H said:
You only go consult a doctor when you think they will provide you with reliable information, and not try to impose a "society view" on some phenomena. You don't consult a person when you suspect this person might lie to you, deceive you, or criminally "prescribe" to you dangerous and inappropriate medication.
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Michel, don't you think it is more likely that your own interpretation may be wrong, given that hundreds of years of testing have not proven telepathy to be an actual phenomenonn?

I think I understand your fear of being prescribed drugs you don't want, but please try to be open to the possibility that perhaps you may have a chemical imbalance that could be affecting your brain that can be treated. No lies involved. If you discuss this with a doctor, I'm sure you will be able to decide between you which, if any, medication could be recommended.
 
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AdMan said:
Michel, don't you think it is more likely that your own interpretation may be wrong, given that hundreds of years of testing have not proven telepathy to be an actual phenomenonn?
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In fact, I think that just the testing I have done on this forum did provide some rather convincing evidence in favor of my telepathy hypothesis. But, unfortunately, you (plural) seem to be unwilling to accept this evidence, and have a tendency to constantly invent false pretexts to dismiss my conclusions (probably because the conclusion that I am "telepathic" is not the conclusion that many of you here "like" the most), even though this conclusion was only made possible by the quality of your answers in my tests. Let me take (again) a simple example (no statistical analysis involved). I started my first test on this forum on August 9, 2012, at 16:43. On August 11, at 1:24 (less than one day and a half later), calwaterbear said:
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... I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!
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His number was correct (I had given previously a MD5 hash, so no more possibility of cheating on the number). So, calwaterbear's answer is quality evidence for my telepathy assumption (ty again, calwaterbear). Have other members on this forum (or other forums; those that you call "deluded") received such verified testimony? I doubt it. If you can cite one, then you are very strong. It is hard to understand how some alleged chemical imbalance in my brain could have led a member of this forum to say:
I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!
 
Michel H said:
In fact, I think that just the testing I have done on this forum did provide some rather convincing evidence in favor of my telepathy hypothesis. But, unfortunately, you (plural) seem to be unwilling to accept this evidence, and have a tendency to constantly invent false pretexts to dismiss my conclusions (probably because the conclusion that I am "telepathic" is not the conclusion that many of you here "like" the most),]
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The opposite is true. You have offered no convincing evidence, but invent falsehoods to explain why you should be convinced by the failings.

For example, you have ignored over 75% of the false guesses, to claim people lied about the number. Yet you offer no evidence they lied. No evidence they heard the numbers at all.

The only reason I can see for this is because you want your chosen belief to be the only possibility supported by the evidence. It is a confirmation bias.

Evidence for telepathy would be a result most of us would like. Which is why this thread has lasted for so long with so many people telling you exactly why your posts are flawed, exactly how to go about performing more rigourous tests and why your evidence is not in the least convincing.

You know when you get to call your evidence convincing? When it convinces somebody, not when you think they should be convinced.
 
Michel H said:
In fact, I think that just the testing I have done on this forum did provide some rather convincing evidence in favor of my telepathy hypothesis. But, unfortunately, you (plural) seem to be unwilling to accept this evidence, and have a tendency to constantly invent false pretexts to dismiss my conclusions (probably because the conclusion that I am "telepathic" is not the conclusion that many of you here "like" the most), even though this conclusion was only made possible by the quality of your answers in my tests. Let me take (again) a simple example (no statistical analysis involved). I started my first test on this forum on August 9, 2012, at 16:43. On August 11, at 1:24 (less than one day and a half later), calwaterbear said:

His number was correct (I had given previously a MD5 hash, so no more possibility of cheating on the number). So, calwaterbear's answer is quality evidence for my telepathy assumption (ty again, calwaterbear). Have other members on this forum (or other forums; those that you call "deluded") received such verified testimony? I doubt it. If you can cite one, then you are very strong. It is hard to understand how some alleged chemical imbalance in my brain could have led a member of this forum to say:
I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!
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What evidence?
 
Michel H said:
Let me take (again) a simple example (no statistical analysis involved). I started my first test on this forum on August 9, 2012, at 16:43. On August 11, at 1:24 (less than one day and a half later), calwaterbear said:
calwaterbear said:
... I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!
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His number was correct (I had given previously a MD5 hash, so no more possibility of cheating on the number). So, calwaterbear's answer is quality evidence for my telepathy assumption (ty again, calwaterbear).
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It's interesting that you choose that example to highlight your ability. calwaterbear's reply quoted another virtually identical reply with a different answer. That's one right and one wrong. You really do need to complete the test with the statistical analysis. Such an analysis of those two answers would show that your ability is demonstrated no more than flipping a coin and having it land on heads.

Would you accept a doctors diagnosis if all he did was flip a coin?


Have other members on this forum (or other forums; those that you call "deluded") received such verified testimony? I doubt it. If you can cite one, then you are very strong. It is hard to understand how some alleged chemical imbalance in my brain could have led a member of this forum to say:
I do indeed have ESP, and know for a fact that he wrote 2!
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I would call that response a parroting of the previous response. It's difficult to find any of the forum posters here that take these tests seriously.

But, what makes you choose calwaterbear's post as genuine and not RandomElement's? This looks like a case of confirmation bias which is a problem that every scientist has and must develop protocols to defend against.
 
Dan O. said:
I would call that response a parroting of the previous response. It's difficult to find any of the forum posters here that take these tests seriously.
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You call Michael's farrago of nonsense a test?
 
I am now broadcasting a number between 1 and 10. I will broadcast at ten minute intervals for the next twelve hours. You will all receive this number because I am telepathic. Please post the number you receive here. If you do not post the number that I am broadcasting then I will assume that you are lying and count it as a hit. I wonder if Don can spot the flaw here? My six year old grandson spotted it straight away.
 
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