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That's not how it works. Why should we believe this?
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Because he wants her to get better. It seems that flaccon's health has improved markedly in the last year or so, and she put this down to the support of well-meaning spirits. Her GP may well feel there's no advantage to her in challenging such thoughts.

You are using "support" in a very misleading way. The inference might be that her GP believes her spirit stories and encourages her to believe them. Having seen the wording of the GP's letter, I do not believe that is true.

Sorry correction, her health was described by the GP as "a massive improvement" and her healing was overnight, not over the course of a year.

(With permission) Flaccon does not ask her GP if he believes, nor will she ask, but she played him various recordings last month, also showed him an image she'd received (of her mother) she matched the voices up, and matched the image to a photograph of her mother, and asked him a question "when is a delusion not a delusion"


That's not the case at all - she's actually taken a turn for the worse.

I have a plan, no choice really. My home isn't safe so I'm on the move. The evil has caught up. As I was trawling youtube (by request) I got the answer as to why my skin ripped open independently a few weeks back. Please check over just a couple of clips "Damaged clouds: Are they real or fake" by "Skywitness" The background radio isn't what it seems, it's not a real advert, it is a mock at my lame idea to have a certain piece of artwork (image of Mother) transferred onto a tee shirt or the likes. At 22 seconds "Welcome home honey, if this mission continues, the Langton's will --?-- their plan" (Can't get the missing word) Then the guy or whoever he is, knocks on my patio window and shouts out at 28 seconds "Thats right Tracey, God can be offended, please come out and die. God damn baby (evil laugh)" I take this very seriously considering I saw what he did to my child and partner (including myself)

The second clip (HAARP hologram in the sky. Weird looking cloud.. by Tudor520055) is about something I've avoided mentioning here, due to knowing what happens to kids. This clip is of 2 innocents chatting together. They swear, speak of the devil, bishops, demons. They use the word patronise, secret, and so on. From the mouth of babes but not from this world "We never listened now the devils unhappy... The bishops - -? I swore the bstrds will never catch us... (@11 secs "All the bishops..") A child roars "Fk off we're not daredevils... Patronise your secret (giggles) At the end (for those with low vol speakers) at 23 seconds "We play with the demons" A spirits instinct amongst the things I've already mentioned, is to save kids/babies/themselves. I have personally saved around 50 clips where names are being called out, and where my Father speaks in his own voice saying his name "Reg Fumpson"

I finally got to speak with an assistant to the bishop the other day. I don't hold much hope out for help, nor do I care anymore.

On a possibly lighter note, I have a friend from school days. She lives in B'ham. We lost contact for 25 years. I confessed to her about this experience and she did not reply to me for a while. I received a message for her "Mandy Mosquito come and try us" and explained to her that they wished to heal her. Of course she thought I'd lost it but she hears her name clear enough. She knows me from old, I'm not easily fooled. Mandy suffers severe peanut allergy and suffers terrible hip/back problems. Mandy is just 5"2 and weighs 16st. She had nothing to lose. 4 weeks later Mandy called me. She had been trying to get hold of me for weeks (I've been away) She said her weight was dropping off her and she was very worried. I asked the usual questions, hair loss/appetite. Her hair was fine and her appetite was good but strange. She'd tried peanuts and her throat did not swell. I couldn't understand why had she even thought of trying peanuts , but she did. She has lost over 4 stone in as many weeks. She's 11st 13 for now. Her bloods are being tested for anything suspicious and my fingers are crossed for her.

I realize now that all this is, is a gift. There are millions who are gifted in similar ways. I have to avoid the evil one, and work out how to use this gift. I'm cluelessas to what shamanism is about but I will certainly be learning.

Thanks for reading. PS, ASKE Paranormal challenge, I'm going to go have a word with them and see what they make of it (thats my plan)



Is it possible that flaccon's family, friends and her GP don't know the extent of her online preoccupation with the paranormal? I don't accept that her doctor would encourage her fantasies - hearing voices, being physically attacked by demons, having a shamanistic gift, etc. - let alone agree to play an active role in them by listening to her YouTube downloads if he had all the facts.

Given flaccon's sad history (sorry, still can't post links. It's on page 2 in the unexplained-mysteries forum under the thread "Attacked") and the contents of this thread, it's hard to believe that for 20 years her family, especially her kids, would let her suffer, untreated, from these delusions if they were fully aware of them. I think she's learned to keep her online activities separate from her daily life.

Speaking as a mom now, I hope there's a Tracey Patricia somewhere inside flaccon who knows that she doesn't need any special powers in order to be loved, and is wise and willing enough to share her real self with those who count.

As for Scrappy, I think he's enjoying an opportunity to escape from an otherwise mediocre life and either doesn't understand or doesn't care how harmful it is to flaccon's mental health.
 
I suppose it's possible that to her kids, who have been brought up with this since they were aged twelve, eleven and five, flaccon's delusions are part of their everyday lives. Of course, that doesn't rule out the possibility that they're not aware of their mother's online activities.
 
Yes, bystanders.




Except of course, that that Burmingham clip did not contain the word "Tracey"..
I actually do hear "Tracey" in that clip, but I was primed for it before listening, and as we all know, this can change what one hears. On the other hand, the inflection is NOT what one would expect in shouting the name "Tracey" the accent is heavily on the second syllable.

Let's suppose he actually is shouting "Tracey" (and he is shouting at that point) The most likely explanation is that he is calling the attention of someone named "Tracey" who is present. Which seems a bit more likely to me than the spirits put it there.

If one were to search through all you-tube videos for words that sound like "Tracey", how many might one find?

IXP
 
And she thinks the spirits change the original copies of the recordings too.

She was rather keen to show us that effect until it was explained how you can use an MD5 hash code to test that a file has not in fact changed at all. She rather lost interest in coming on here since it was demonstrated that files she insisted had changed had not in fact done so.
 
Are you suggesting that something as trivial as an MD5 hash is a more reliable indicator of reality than human perception? Pshaw! The spirits are more powerful than your silly little ones and zeros!
 
I apologise for my logging back into here, I promised myself I wouldn't. I can't bear to read some comments, and I don't wish to fuel any fire. I do give full marks to Mr Roberts for trying to reply to a few comments. I find the different view points interesting/plausible. Matching the voices should not prove difficult. I am quite alive and I do have recordings going back a decade with my Father's voice present.

I don't mind what Mr Roberts has to say, or what he wishes to point out. I update him as I do the others. I sort of get the feeling that he's mentioned the diamonds and the Grimbsy clip here so I cannot retract my suspicions of my latest findings. I really don't know how he's coping but I imagine it's been a horrible year to digest (on top of his own problems) I explain that it is a sceptics job to look for the objectives/alternatives etc, and to ignore any medical evaluations, wrong assumptions etc.

I think Marplots had an interesting point. Possibly refering to my hearing altering to a point where I cannot recognise a voice, or familiar voices anymore. Quite plausible, and something I actually considered. Many others here were hearing words/sentences, where Alderbank could not. I'll confess I played Alderbank an audio file with a real voice on it, loud enough to be heard. It was not recognised as a voice at all. I then played him a real voice that he was familiar with, and it was of course recognised as a voice. (Sorry Alderbank, you have been a good sport and once Rev E has settled in her house-move, it's all systems go if you are still interested to observe)

I don't know if Alderbank mentioned hearing a short sentence in a chipmonk-like voice saying "Hi Katie it's Julie" It was loud enough but did he said it did not count for anything because the voice was chipmonk-like. I have stressed that their voices alter. They speed up, slow down, can be full of static, or very clear. As they are not actually being recorded as such, uploading to Box.com was a waste of time as all it did was distort the files (as it did with Jfishers file when he uploaded it to email)

I also think XP had a good point. How many youtube uploads will one find a voice calling out "TRACEY" or of similar sounding. I've downloaded 3 that I know of. 2 contain my full name, and again mentions Billy.

I'm clueless regarding diamond rings for now, so it's hardly worth a mention until I can identify what has actually happened to it.

I'm also comfortably back home after hearing that the spirits blew my etheral attacker to bits. Interesting article "Alien life found above the skies over Chester" I'm not saying anything more than it certainly got me thinking.

Regarding the Grimbsy clip, it is my voice alongside my Father's voice. I couldn't have wished for a more deserving piece of evidence. Although they appear as "bystanders" to the unsuspecting listener, it is indeed my Father, and bearing good news too. I emailled the uploader, and noticed the clip had been uploaded 8 months previous, and also by 2 different uploaders. I have had a response from youtube members, who are aware that something odd is happening within their recordings. I caught one scaremongerer out who stages his hotel room to appear "haunted" He uses the same silent audio for 3 separate incidences caught on camera. So when one clip altered, it altered all 3 of his clips. Busted :) Shouldn't actually mess about with the paranormal at all.

Alice Fruitcake, I am neither mental, dramatic nor trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes. I would prefer it that my Father et'al were R.I.P, but it isn't the case, and the reason why I press on. We have a right to know whats going on. My church pinpoints my daughter as being responsible for the hauntings, whilst another denomination tells me it's satan playing tricks.

Regarding a contest. If my Father is correct, it may close before my challenge is accepted. I await further replies but it isn't looking too good.

Regarding the GP. His letter explains "how it was" in February. If this letter was to be updated, I believe it would not be as vague today. Since Mr Roberts computer altered in June, it isn't "noise suggestive of words" anymore. Sentences are heard in my Fathers voice. It also isn't "2 images, one good and one bad" there are over 60 now. I found their latest images incredible. Paredolia or not, the images related to everything I'm hearing, experiencing and requesting. A GP that takes the time to check out the evidence offered before suggesting any kind of therapy, is a good GP in my eyes.
 
It is useless trying to argue sense with someone like this.

She is happily fooling herself (along with her enablers) and nothing we can say or show will change that.

I am outta here.
 
I think our comments are useful for skeptical readers. I know I enjoy reading what others have to say about this.

But I agree that flaccon doesn't want our help, even though she desperately needs it.
 
I apologise for my logging back into here, I promised myself I wouldn't. I can't bear to read some comments, and I don't wish to fuel any fire. I do give full marks to Mr Roberts for trying to reply to a few comments. I find the different view points interesting/plausible. Matching the voices should not prove difficult. I am quite alive and I do have recordings going back a decade with my Father's voice present.

I don't mind what Mr Roberts has to say, or what he wishes to point out. I update him as I do the others. I sort of get the feeling that he's mentioned the diamonds and the Grimbsy clip here so I cannot retract my suspicions of my latest findings. I really don't know how he's coping but I imagine it's been a horrible year to digest (on top of his own problems) I explain that it is a sceptics job to look for the objectives/alternatives etc, and to ignore any medical evaluations, wrong assumptions etc.

I think Marplots had an interesting point. Possibly refering to my hearing altering to a point where I cannot recognise a voice, or familiar voices anymore. Quite plausible, and something I actually considered. Many others here were hearing words/sentences, where Alderbank could not. I'll confess I played Alderbank an audio file with a real voice on it, loud enough to be heard. It was not recognised as a voice at all. I then played him a real voice that he was familiar with, and it was of course recognised as a voice. (Sorry Alderbank, you have been a good sport and once Rev E has settled in her house-move, it's all systems go if you are still interested to observe)

I don't know if Alderbank mentioned hearing a short sentence in a chipmonk-like voice saying "Hi Katie it's Julie" It was loud enough but did he said it did not count for anything because the voice was chipmonk-like. I have stressed that their voices alter. They speed up, slow down, can be full of static, or very clear. As they are not actually being recorded as such, uploading to Box.com was a waste of time as all it did was distort the files (as it did with Jfishers file when he uploaded it to email)

I also think XP had a good point. How many youtube uploads will one find a voice calling out "TRACEY" or of similar sounding. I've downloaded 3 that I know of. 2 contain my full name, and again mentions Billy.

I'm clueless regarding diamond rings for now, so it's hardly worth a mention until I can identify what has actually happened to it.

I'm also comfortably back home after hearing that the spirits blew my etheral attacker to bits. Interesting article "Alien life found above the skies over Chester" I'm not saying anything more than it certainly got me thinking.

Regarding the Grimbsy clip, it is my voice alongside my Father's voice. I couldn't have wished for a more deserving piece of evidence. Although they appear as "bystanders" to the unsuspecting listener, it is indeed my Father, and bearing good news too. I emailled the uploader, and noticed the clip had been uploaded 8 months previous, and also by 2 different uploaders. I have had a response from youtube members, who are aware that something odd is happening within their recordings. I caught one scaremongerer out who stages his hotel room to appear "haunted" He uses the same silent audio for 3 separate incidences caught on camera. So when one clip altered, it altered all 3 of his clips. Busted :) Shouldn't actually mess about with the paranormal at all.

Alice Fruitcake, I am neither mental, dramatic nor trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes. I would prefer it that my Father et'al were R.I.P, but it isn't the case, and the reason why I press on. We have a right to know whats going on. My church pinpoints my daughter as being responsible for the hauntings, whilst another denomination tells me it's satan playing tricks.

Regarding a contest. If my Father is correct, it may close before my challenge is accepted. I await further replies but it isn't looking too good.

Regarding the GP. His letter explains "how it was" in February. If this letter was to be updated, I believe it would not be as vague today. Since Mr Roberts computer altered in June, it isn't "noise suggestive of words" anymore. Sentences are heard in my Fathers voice. It also isn't "2 images, one good and one bad" there are over 60 now. I found their latest images incredible. Paredolia or not, the images related to everything I'm hearing, experiencing and requesting. A GP that takes the time to check out the evidence offered before suggesting any kind of therapy, is a good GP in my eyes.

I can't make heads or tails of this nonsense.
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...I'm also comfortably back home after hearing that the spirits blew my etheral attacker to bits. Interesting article "Alien life found above the skies over Chester" I'm not saying anything more than it certainly got me thinking. ...

Wait.
Now it's not just the spirit world involved here but UFOs to boot?
 
Regarding a contest. If my Father is correct, it may close before my challenge is accepted. I await further replies but it isn't looking too good.


What "contest" is it? What replies have you had already?

Oh, and what words and sentences did the spirits use to explain the "Great Mystery of Life"?
 
I don't know if Alderbank mentioned hearing a short sentence in a chipmonk-like voice saying "Hi Katie it's Julie" It was loud enough but did he said it did not count for anything because the voice was chipmonk-like.

As best I remember, Alderbank did not mention hearing a chipmunk-like voice saying "Hi Katie it's Julie".

I'd like you to clarify a few details, if that's OK:

You appear to be implying that Alderbank agreed with you that;
a) the recording contained a "chipmunk-like voice" and also that
b) the voice said "Hi Katie it's Julie".

Is that correct?

You also say that Alderbank thought the fact that the voice said "Hi Katie it's Julie" was not significant for the specific reason that it was said in a chipmunk-like voice. Is that your recollection of what happened?

I just want to avoid ambiguity if Alderbank also recalls the event you refer to.
 
I don't know if Alderbank mentioned hearing a short sentence in a chipmonk-like voice saying "Hi Katie it's Julie" It was loud enough but did he said it did not count for anything because the voice was chipmonk-like.


Is a chipmonk something like a fish friar?
 
I just want to avoid ambiguity if Alderbank also recalls the event you refer to.

Jack, I listened to dozens, perhaps hundreds, of clips when I visited flaccon, and some of them were pretty hard on the eardrums. I don't recall this one but I suppose it might have been among them. I went hoping to hear something paranormal and to me there is nothing paranormal about a voice saying "Hi Katie it's Julie".

Tracey, what would be the significance of this clip?
 
I played two clips where Julie says hello. Yes, the first one didn't count because it was refered to as chipmonk-like. The second one "Tracey it's Julie" also didn't count because the voice was very hoarse. That particular conversation ended with "I can't go back and tell them thats a voice I'll be ridiculed too" (fair enough)

I asked Alderbank for his opinion as to why my computer is churning out noise suggestive of words. He replied "It's probably broken" The same reply went for Mr Roberts, Mr Bulgers and Mrs M's computers. Four broken junkers.

I recently purchased a new computer intended for the contest. I checked for a silent recording, and immediately "messages" were coming through. I swapped the computer for a different model. I had a friend set it up and check for a silent recording, but we got the same results. So that's six broken junkers so far.
 
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