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scrappy said:
so how is it that her deceased father shouts out in youtube clips? Its the same voice that emits from my computer. How is it that traceys voice is shouting out on youtube clips? why does her GP support her? and 3 family members who know without a doubt what their own father sounds like.

I requested to observe one of her GP appointments so I could get an angle on it, and she obliged this. I detected no appeasement, and no incompetence.
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He doesn't. Were such a thing to occur, you could easily post up a before and after youtube, with the before version having no spirit voice and the after version having the spirit voice. This would make things clear.

Yet somehow you cannot do this simple thing.
 
scrappy said:
I can at least identify her voice, and its alongside a voice that she claims is her fathers voice. It is also the same voice that emits from my computer.
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Yes, but you see she also claims voices on the radio in the background of a YouTube video are sending her specific messages when the truth is we can all hear perfectly well that it is actually a perfectly ordinary advert for a Florida record store. We even managed to identify the individual shop without much difficulty. That's the sort of thing that leads one to expect somewhat more compelling evidence than "flaccon claims...".

Perhaps you could expand a bit on the particular circumstances which make the voice emit from your computer.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Because he wants her to get better. It seems that flaccon's health has improved markedly in the last year or so, and she put this down to the support of well-meaning spirits. Her GP may well feel there's no advantage to her in challenging such thoughts.

You are using "support" in a very misleading way. The inference might be that her GP believes her spirit stories and encourages her to believe them. Having seen the wording of the GP's letter, I do not believe that is true.
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Sorry correction, her health was described by the GP as "a massive improvement" and her healing was overnight, not over the course of a year.

(With permission) Flaccon does not ask her GP if he believes, nor will she ask, but she played him various recordings last month, also showed him an image she'd received (of her mother) she matched the voices up, and matched the image to a photograph of her mother, and asked him a question "when is a delusion not a delusion"
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Yes, but you see she also claims voices on the radio in the background of a YouTube video are sending her specific messages when the truth is we can all hear perfectly well that it is actually a perfectly ordinary advert for a Florida record store. We even managed to identify the individual shop without much difficulty. That's the sort of thing that leads one to expect somewhat more compelling evidence than "flaccon claims...".

Perhaps you could expand a bit on the particular circumstances which make the voice emit from your computer.
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Tracey also did her homework, she knows its an advert, but it went strange towards the end. A DJ named Casey Kaseem, in his 80's.
 
scrappy said:
Tracey also did her homework, she knows its an advert, but it went strange towards the end. A DJ named Casey Kaseem, in his 80's.
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Casey Kasem has always been rather strange, but there's nothing paranormal about that.

The advert did not go strange toward the end, flaccon just misinterpreted the words to allow herself to imagine it was sending her a message. It wasn't.
 
abaddon said:
He doesn't. Were such a thing to occur, you could easily post up a before and after youtube, with the before version having no spirit voice and the after version having the spirit voice. This would make things clear.

Yet somehow you cannot do this simple thing.
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I cant give you a before and after clip. But this is what flaccon did with me to comfirm her suspicions.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Casey Kasem has always been rather strange, but there's nothing paranormal about that.

The advert did not go strange toward the end, flaccon just misinterpreted the words to allow herself to imagine it was sending her a message. It wasn't.
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Sorry but I hear their surname being mentioned , and I also hear 5 syllables in "Please come out and die" and not 8 syllables "A place where you don't have to die"
 
scrappy said:
I cant give you a before and after clip. But this is what flaccon did with me to comfirm her suspicions.
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But again, that just gives us stuff like the YouTube clip where you imagine someone shouts "Tracy" when in fact it's just something along the lines of "Do you see?".

Remember we are now awaiting email confirmation from the maker of that video. I'm quite looking forward to that.
 
scrappy said:
Sorry but I hear their surname being mentioned , and I also hear 5 syllables in "Please come out and die" and not 8 syllables "A place where you don't have to die"
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I'm sorry you hear that too. That's not real, it's just in your imagination. With a little luck we'll soon have either a transcript or better still a copy of the real advert. I very much look forwards to that.
 
scrappy said:
Sorry but I hear their surname being mentioned , and I also hear 5 syllables in "Please come out and die" and not 8 syllables "A place where you don't have to die"
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I hear the second voice say "That's right Casey, Rock and Roll Heaven, where you don't have to die to get there baby" followed by a devilish laugh.

Do you at least acknowledge that the address and phone number, given by the first voice earlier, identify it as an ad for that particular store?
 
The strangest part of all this is that someone actually has a recording of a sunny day in Grimsby.
 
scrappy said:
http://youtu.be/XA1KgDcF2z8 Uploader "this is Grimsby news" title is UFO or contrail over Grimsby. Tracey kicks in at 8 seconds, and the same voice that emits from my computer is at 13 seconds.
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First impression: The woman's voice in the background simply doesn't sound like flaccon to me. flaccon sounds sort-of-Birmingham-ish to my ears and this recording has much more Northern intonations. Sounds younger too. Not the same person at all. Can't make out the words at all unfortunately, just a few fragments.

The man's voice is a brief, vague mumble that I couldn't possibly have identified even if I knew the person. I doubt if anyone else could either. That's no obstacle for flaccon with her propensity to hear what she expects to hear.
 
abaddon said:
Nope. No voices that Flaccon hears at all. Just some bystanders talking.
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Yes, a nearby woman starts talking at about 8 seconds in and there are other less clear voices. I can't make out what she's saying until the very end when she says "it's <indistinct> in'it?"

Is Tracey in the habit of saying "in'it" in a northern accent, scrappy?
 
Pixel42 said:
Yes, a nearby woman starts talking at about 8 seconds in and there are other less clear voices. I can't make out what she's saying until the very end when she says "it's <indistinct> in'it?"

Is Tracey in the habit of saying "in'it" in a northern accent, scrappy?
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I think she says "fault" a couple of times (0:12 and 0:14). Seems to be saying something isn't somebody's fault, and repeats it for emphasis.

All in a plausibly Grimsby accent, unlike flaccon's.
 
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