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Religious figures reincarnated (Split from: Pope responds question from atheist)

Kathie Bondar said:
If you want to come up with smart sarcastic statements, at least try to comprehend the original sentence. In this case, you did not. Sometimes new ideas take time to sink in, although reincarnation is not really new, the Dalai Lama claims to have reincarnated 14 consecutive times. They gave him the Nobel Peace prize.
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Is the syntax in your book equally as bad or do you really believe that the Dalia Lama received the prize for claiming to be reincarnated?
 
poblob14 said:
Ah, so that explains why it's so hard to find any strength to draw the line! I'm just burning, doing the neutron dance. (And before the physicists jump me, yes, I do know the difference between a neutron and a neutrino.)



I think I did. At least I know how to spell "neutrino."

I need to go finish evolving into a planet. My method involves lots of donuts.
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http://www.nutrino.co/
 
dafydd said:
I claim to have been reincarnated twenty times and I hereby claim my Nobel prize.
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You may also want to change your face and height slightly, as the Dalai Lama seem to have done at one point when after a couple of years out of limelight suddenly he reappeared shrunk.
 
ddt said:
If you really think he's the reincarnation of those 13 previous Lamas, should he be indicted for their crimes? :rolleyes:


And they gave Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize for stopping to bomb Vietnam to smithereens. :rolleyes:
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Yes, according to my study into his existence, he did reincarnate 14 consecutive times, but as Tibetans who identified him did it by the seat of their pants, a few times missed the poor kid alltogether, and at least once he lived the life of a poor peasant.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
Yes, according to my study into his existence, he did reincarnate 14 consecutive times, but as Tibetans who identified him did it by the seat of their pants, a few times missed the poor kid alltogether, and at least once he lived the life of a poor peasant.
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You mean to say you believe he reincarnated 14 times.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
No, although I can't imagine what he got it for
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I've pointed this out to you before several times: it's very odd that your method of finding things out can give you information about the most mysterious things, but it is completely hopeless at providing simple pieces of information like the reason why the Dalai Lama got the Nobel prize, when St Francis lived, and so forth.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
Yes, according to my study into his existence, he did reincarnate 14 consecutive times, but as Tibetans who identified him did it by the seat of their pants, a few times missed the poor kid alltogether, and at least once he lived the life of a poor peasant.
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You avoided the question. Do you think the current Dalai Lama is responsible for the crimes perpetrated by the previous Lamas, of which he is, according to him and to you, the reincarnation?

That's a simple question. Just answer "yes" or "no".
 
Craig B said:
I've pointed this out to you before several times: it's very odd that your method of finding things out can give you information about the most mysterious things, but it is completely hopeless at providing simple pieces of information like the reason why the Dalai Lama got the Nobel prize, when St Francis lived, and so forth.
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And erroneous information such as Jesus's sister Veronica.
 
Better this: as Kathie has published the crucifixion as told by its leading role and one supporting character (links below), why don't she tell details about it, correcting mistakes in the gospels, naming some people and describing some everyday details -like footwear-, so we can check against all available information.

Links (as always, just copy and paste in your browser's address bar without removing carriage returns; this way we can avoid boosting link popularity of inconvenient websites)

Jesus: my crucifixion

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myborealis
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ca
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sample-chapter
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another link: Man crucified with Jesus

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[This man later reincarnated as Ginepro -Juniper in Italian, which is not a first name but a family name -. This Ginepro person supposedly was a brother of Francis of Assisi. In the centuries in between, I suppose he marked time as a neutrino]
 
aleCcowaN said:
Better this: as Kathie has published the crucifixion as told by its leading role and one supporting character (links below), why don't she tell details about it, correcting mistakes in the gospels, naming some people and describing some everyday details -like footwear-, so we can check against all available information.

Links (as always, just copy and paste in your browser's address bar without removing carriage returns; this way we can avoid boosting link popularity of inconvenient websites)

Jesus: my crucifixion

www
.
myborealis
.
ca
/
sample-chapter
.
php

another link: Man crucified with Jesus

www
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myborealis
.
ca
/
man-crucified-with-jesus
.
php

[This man later reincarnated as Ginepro -Juniper in Italian, which is not a first name but a family name -. This Ginepro person supposedly was a brother of Francis of Assisi. In the centuries in between, I suppose he marked time as a neutrino]
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From the first link:

The Creator describe how with a mighty effort, he brought over our universe from another place.

This gives me the image of the Creator straining and grunting on his porcelain throne.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
If people have problems with what I was saying until now, this will really raise some eyebrows.
All beings in the universe start out as the simplest possible, say a nutrino or electron. Through subsequent lives we advance to a higher form of life, a cell, a molecule, and eventually become a human being or a dog, etc...
You complete your cycles as a human being, a dog, elephant, etc... you advance to become a planet, a sun, etc... At each phase there is a merger of a number of individuals is involved and the information of how exactly this takes place has not been given to me.
You complete your cycles and become a galaxy. A galaxy with attitude?
Yes, I did say this was going to blow some minds. You asked.
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The words are English, but put together in a way that makes no sense.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
You may also want to change your face and height slightly, as the Dalai Lama seem to have done at one point when after a couple of years out of limelight suddenly he reappeared shrunk.
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Serve him right for swimming in ice cold water.
 
Craig B said:
What is this method? You have not told us. I have asked how you do this, but you have not responded. I am very suspicious of the validity of your method because it allegedly enables you to do a very difficult thing that I can't verify, I.e. show that Jesus' mother was the same person as Joshua's father; but it doesn't help you to do a very simple thing, which I can verify, I.e. find out in what century St Francis was born.

Imagine your friend has a computer. It gives strange answers to very complicated mathematical problems which nobody could work out in their head. So you decide to check its accuracy by asking it to add two and two. It replies, seven. What would you think of that?

So please tell me how you know that the Virgin Mary, and animals, get themselves reincarnated, and how you follow these reincarnations from one life to the next.
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You can not feed this into your computer. Telepathy happens between the sender's and receiver's brain, and because you are "listening"to somebody, you will "hear" it in the first person singular, present tense. But more than that. You are receiving your senders total experience here, his feelings, his joy, his fear. For example, my pet bird had a fright when the cat jumped up to his cage. The bird called me in cold terror. I then telepathically experienced his terror, saw the cat's face and put two and two together.
Because dreams are telepathy in the sleeping state, I actually started out by dream interpretation. (For starters I had background in psychology and what we knew of dream interpretation) The first thing is to memorize your dream. I mean memorize every detail, however insignificant it may seem. Once you are confident you can memorize your dream, start writing them down. You will be surprised how hard that can be. You ommit details (resistance). You forget details (resistance). Once you are confident you can recall and write down your dreams, you can start interpreting them. Dreams come through symbolized. You need to learn to interpret the symbolism.
Took me years.
 
Kathie Bondar said:
You can not feed this into your computer. Telepathy happens between the sender's and receiver's brain, and because you are "listening"to somebody, you will "hear" it in the first person singular, present tense. But more than that. You are receiving your senders total experience here, his feelings, his joy, his fear. For example, my pet bird had a fright when the cat jumped up to his cage. The bird called me in cold terror. I then telepathically experienced his terror, saw the cat's face and put two and two together.
Because dreams are telepathy in the sleeping state, I actually started out by dream interpretation. (For starters I had background in psychology and what we knew of dream interpretation) The first thing is to memorize your dream. I mean memorize every detail, however insignificant it may seem. Once you are confident you can memorize your dream, start writing them down. You will be surprised how hard that can be. You ommit details (resistance). You forget details (resistance). Once you are confident you can recall and write down your dreams, you can start interpreting them. Dreams come through symbolized. You need to learn to interpret the symbolism.
Took me years.
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Yes, that takes years to develop. But still you haven't provided any proof that what you are saying is anything more than a fantasy. In fact you have proved that is indeed a fantasy many times.

And you have to be aware that your word about it or what you have been "told" during your altered perceptions cannot be used as a proof of what you say is real. But you can provide information that is only known to Madame Curie or Albert Schweitzer and little people more so we can test them real. There are many many ways you can prove what you say is real, but I bet you, like many others before you, won't use any of them. Until then, the logic conclusion is: all what you're saying is much more probable to be just a figment of your imagination than any other alternative. I hope I am wrong because I'd really like that telepathy existed, but you're probably to prove me right.
 
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I find it amazing that supposedly sceptics on here can continue this subject/thread to the now seven pages worth. If none of you believe and proffess to have no interest in supernatural etc, you are not convincing. Several of you are sarcastic or joke but that is a cover up, a ploy so that more info is passed by the OP, Kathie in this instance. If you were truly sceptical and not interested, you wouldn't even bother to look in the thread. IMO
 
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