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Unbelievable.

Please, get back to the thread topic, which is the "rethink 9/11" advertising campaign/BART advertising. Otherwise, a whole lot of posts are going to end up in Abandon All Hope. (ETA: And infractions and other moderation may ensue as well.) Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
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uke2se said:
We should all listen to Cloggy. He brings up points nobody has brought up at any time in the twelve years since 9/11. I mean, who ever heard of WTC 7 or "free-fall speed"?
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So why would someone be upset about a poster...??
 
cloggy said:
i have no explanation for the entire day..
So you still think that in the whole of history three skyscrapers collapsed due to a fire? Never happened before. Never happened afterwards.. Only on 11.09.2001
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You're not the first, and you won't be the last, but... You agreed to the membership agreement. Part of that was to stay on topic. There are a LOT of topics in this subforum. If you aren't discussing this specific advertising in San Francisco, then please go find the appropriate topic. There are hundreds of them. Or start your own. Or please please please, give us a better theory that explains the events of 9/11/2001.

Thanks.

PS - There is no such thing as "free fall speed." You might want to read up on this before making a fool of yourself any further.
 
cloggy said:
So why would someone be upset about a poster...??
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Because it's a vile campaign of lying, making light of the deaths of three thousand people. I would have been equally upset by a campaign denying that the Turks committed genocide against the Armenians, or one that claimed Muslims were responsible for the Utøya attacks.
 
LSSBB said:
Because the poster promotes uncritical thinking, promulgating a "jump to conclusions" mindset that uses flimsy reasoning and "dot-connecting" conjectures to go full bore into accusations of nefarious behavior, with no basis in reality.
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uke2se said:
Because it's a vile campaign of lying, making light of the deaths of three thousand people. I would have been equally upset by a campaign denying that the Turks committed genocide against the Armenians, or one that claimed Muslims were responsible for the Utøya attacks.
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Bingo.

Understand now, cloggy?
 
LSSBB said:
Because the poster promotes uncritical thinking, promulgating a "jump to conclusions" mindset that uses flimsy reasoning and "dot-connecting" conjectures to go full bore into accusations of nefarious behavior, with no basis in reality.
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On the contrary my dear Watson.. Quite the opposite..
 
beachnut said:
Wow, he could be in on the biggest Pulitzer since Watergate. All he needs is a newspaper to sponsor him.
We have the next Bernstein and Woodward as a JREF poster. We will be famous.

He can take all of Gage's "work" and win the Pulitzer.
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uke2se said:
Because it's a vile campaign of lying, making light of the deaths of three thousand people. I would have been equally upset by a campaign denying that the Turks committed genocide against the Armenians, or one that claimed Muslims were responsible for the Utøya attacks.
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I'm sorry, but what is the poster denying? The official conspiracy theory that was fed to the media on day 1?
 
cloggy said:
I'm sorry, but what is the poster denying? The official conspiracy theory that was fed to the media on day 1?
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No. It was denying what really happened. This denial is endemic in the conspiracy community, and often takes disgusting forms, like 9/11 denial, holocaust denial or HIV denial. Often one conspiracist holds several of these disgusting views.
 
uke2se said:
No. It was denying what really happened. This denial is endemic in the conspiracy community, and often takes disgusting forms, like 9/11 denial, holocaust denial or HIV denial. Often one conspiracist holds several of these disgusting views.
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The poster is not denying anything. It asks politely to rethink. Wondering now what YOU think really happened..
Does anyone have a good version of that poster? Would like to read the fine print..
Never mind..Found it..
 
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ArchStanton said:
Like beachnut says, that article by Kevin Barrett completely misrepresents the actual study. Like most conspiracy kooks, you've obviously never read the study itself, preferring instead to read a travesty written by a well-known conspiracy kook on a well-known conspiracy kook TV channel's website.

Like you, my post count isn't high enough yet to post direct links but if you do a search on "What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories", you'll find a link to the Frontiers website, with an abstract of the Michael Wood and Karen Douglas study. If you look at the "PDF" link on the right, you can download the full study. It doesn't even use the word "sane" anywhere in the document, that's how much of a liar Barrett is. The study is in reality a very interesting analysis of the conspiracy believer's mindset - they are more interested in finding "anomalies" in "official stories" to bolster their already held view of an over-arching super-conspiracy (aka "confirmation bias") than in finding evidence to support a specific theory.
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Just bork the link like this

w w w (dot) somplace (dot) urg
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Someone will helpfully fix it right up for you.

ETA: Oh and leave it as plaintext, not a URL.
 
cloggy said:
The poster is not denying anything. It asks politely to rethink.
Does anyone have a good version of that poster? Wold like to read the fine print..
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Are you not familiar with the people at AE911Twoof, who made the poster?
 
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