What's your theory about 9/11?

I did not make any of these premises. How did you come to these conclusions?


You are assuming premises that I made based on facts not entered into evidence. I have listed the facts I had, the sources for these facts and the conclusions I was able to make based these facts. None of the conclusion have any relation to the premises you claim I made. But your reply makes clear that you know virtual nothing why the attacks on 9/11 were deliberately allowed to take place by the CIA and FBI HQ.

The CIA and FBI HQ knew about this huge attack ahead of time, and even knew that Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were inside of the US in order to take part in this huge attack, and then FBI HQ, under orders from the CIA, shut down the criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi by FBI the agents on the Cole bombing investigation when both the CIA and FBI HQ knew this would allow this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack to take place and that it would result in the murder thousands of Americans. The CIA even knew specifically that thousands of people would be killed in the World Trade Center Towers because of this attack, information they apparently did not share with FBI HQ.

These are my premises, not the premises that you incorrectly claim that I made.

Your premises are subjective interpretations and baseless assumptions. In other words; Flights of fantasy arisen from confusion about what seems obvious to you now, in hindsight, versus what decisions then, in real time, were made.

It seems very vain of you to assume that you would have pieced it all together if you had been in charge of intelligence before 9/11, when the people who were actually working the problems didn't.

If you are so brilliant and observant, why aren't you working for the intelligence community? Have you sent your resume to DHS?
 
Your premises are subjective interpretations and baseless assumptions. In other words; Flights of fantasy arisen from confusion about what seems obvious to you now, in hindsight, versus what decisions then, in real time, were made.

It seems very vain of you to assume that you would have pieced it all together if you had been in charge of intelligence before 9/11, when the people who were actually working the problems didn't.

If you are so brilliant and observant, why aren't you working for the intelligence community? Have you sent your resume to DHS?

I did not make any of these premises. How did you come to these conclusions?

You are assuming premises that I made based on facts not entered into evidence. I have listed the facts I had, the sources for these facts and the conclusions I was able to make based these facts. None of the conclusion have any relation to the premises you claim I made. But your reply makes clear that you know virtual nothing why the attacks on 9/11 were deliberately allowed to take place by the CIA and FBI HQ.

The CIA and FBI HQ knew about this huge attack well ahead of time, and even knew that Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were inside of the US in order to take part in this huge attack, and then FBI HQ, under orders from the CIA, shut down the criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi by FBI agents on the Cole bombing investigation when both the CIA and FBI HQ knew this would allow this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack to take place and that it would result in the murder thousands of Americans. The CIA even knew specifically that thousands of people would be killed in the World Trade Center Towers because of this attack, information they apparently did not share with FBI HQ.

The CIA had been told on June 12, 2001 according to the 9/11 Commission report, that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was directing this attack and that he was recruiting many al Qaeda terrorists in the summer of 2001 to be sent into the United States to link up with other al Qaeda terrorists already inside of the United States, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi in order to carry out this attack. The CIA already had KSM’s Bojinka plot to hijack a number of large US airliners and crash these into the World Trade Center Towers, the Pentagon and the US Capitol building. that

These are my premises, not the premises that you incorrectly claim that I made.

While I did not find any evidence that the CIA shared the information with FBI HQ that thousands of people who worked at the World Trade Center Towers would be murdered in this attack there is now clear and compelling evidence that the CIA must have shared this information with George Bush, President of the US.

George Tenet was informed that both Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US, on August 22, 2001, and Tenet was well aware these al Qaeda terrorists were here to take part in the massive al Qaeda terrorist attack that he had warned Condoleezza Rice about on July 10, 2001, at a urgent meeting right in the White House. He also knew on August 23, 2001, one day later, that Moussaoui had been arrested by Minneapolis FBI. With this information, he flew down to Crawford Texas for a 6 hour long meeting with the President on August 24, 2001.

How do we know about this meeting between the President of the United States and George Tenet, Director of the CIA. Because this meeting was described right on the White House web site.

“HELLO”

So what did George Tenet Director tell the President about Mihdhar, Hazmi and Moussaoui at this 6 hour long meeting?

He had been asked this question at the 9/11 hearings on April 14, 2004, by 9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer, but told Roemer, the 9/11 Commission and all of America, which we now know was an out and out lie, that he had not talked to the President in all of August 2001.

Now this is truly bizarre. Tenet had 2 ½ years to prepare for this 9/11 Commission public hearing with his own schedule calendar so there is no way he did not clearly remember this meeting with the President on August 24, 2001. What secret was Tenet keeping from the American people, a secret so horrific he would lie to the 9/11 Commission and the American people , who only wanted to know why had the CIA and FBI HQ deliberately allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to carry out the attacks on 9/11.

Your comment: "It seems very vain of you to assume that you would have pieced it all together if you had been in charge of intelligence before 9/11, when the people who were actually working the problems didn't."

The CIA had put it together prior to the attacks on 9/11. It turns out they just "let this attack take place" when they had more than enough information to have prevented this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack. This is the information that comes right out of the DOJ IG report when this information is combined with the Moussaoui trial defense exhibits. All they had to do to prevent this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack was not allow FBI HQ to shut down FBI Agent Steve Bongardt's criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi.
 
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The terrorists did it, the silly version...

... The CIA had put it together prior to the attacks on 9/11. It turns out they just "let this attack take place" when they had more than enough information to have prevented this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack. This is the information that comes right out of the DOJ IG report when this information is combined with the Moussaoui trial defense exhibits. All they had to do to prevent this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack was not allow FBI HQ to shut down FBI Agent Steve Bongardt's criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi.
No one knew it was happening. You make this part up, the knowing of how, which planes, how they would kill pilots and crew to take the planes.

No way they knew the exact date, and exactly how. Arresting or killing two of the terrorists would do what? Nothing.

Looks like you want special interrogation to take place before 911, arresting people you think are bad. You focus in hind sight on two of thousands of people, and make up woo. In fact your stuff is all political claptrap, not a thing to do with 911 CTs.

Thousands of bad guys, and you back in some silly claims. You can't list all the threats to the USA before 911, you focus on 911 after the fact, and pretend to read minds.


Your post boils down to number 1. You voted for 1. The terrorists did it. Or 2. lol; they knew a big attack was coming... What a load of silly

They would have stopped it, jumped up from first class a rogue group of CIA operatives save three planes from hijacking and terror impacts on the USA. CIA budget soars, hero medals are awarded, ...

You are full of woo
 
While I did not find any evidence that the CIA shared the information with FBI HQ that thousands of people who worked at the World Trade Center Towers would be murdered in this attack there is now clear and compelling evidence that the CIA must have shared this information with George Bush, President of the US.

George Tenet was informed that both Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US, on August 22, 2001, and Tenet was well aware these al Qaeda terrorists were here to take part in the massive al Qaeda terrorist attack that he had warned Condoleezza Rice about on July 10, 2001, at a urgent meeting right in the White House. He also knew on August 23, 2001, one day later, that Moussaoui had been arrested by Minneapolis FBI. With this information, he flew down to Crawford Texas for a 6 hour long meeting with the President on August 24, 2001.

How do we know about this meeting between the President of the United States and George Tenet, Director of the CIA. Because this meeting was described right on the White House web site.

“HELLO”

So what did George Tenet Director tell the President about Mihdhar, Hazmi and Moussaoui at this 6 hour long meeting?

He had been asked this question at the 9/11 hearings on April 14, 2004, by 9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer, but told Roemer, the 9/11 Commission and all of America, which we now know was an out and out lie, that he had not talked to the President in all of August 2001.

Now this is truly bizarre. Tenet had 2 ½ years to prepare for this 9/11 Commission public hearing with his own schedule calendar so there is no way he did not clearly remember this meeting with the President on August 24, 2001. What secret was Tenet keeping from the American people, a secret so horrific he would lie to the 9/11 Commission and the American people , who only wanted to know why had the CIA and FBI HQ deliberately allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to carry out the attacks on 9/11.

Your comment: "It seems very vain of you to assume that you would have pieced it all together if you had been in charge of intelligence before 9/11, when the people who were actually working the problems didn't."

The CIA had put it together prior to the attacks on 9/11. It turns out they just "let this attack take place" when they had more than enough information to have prevented this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack. This is the information that comes right out of the DOJ IG report when this information is combined with the Moussaoui trial defense exhibits. All they had to do to prevent this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack was not allow FBI HQ to shut down FBI Agent Steve Bongardt's criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi.

The CIA prolly seeded the plot to foreign agencies and when they were NOTIFIED by other country's agencies they morassed it. No sense chasing their tail over it.

Begging the question,
Why didn't our own intelligence pick it up?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septem...acy_theories#Foreign_government_foreknowledge
 
Mr Moore you have presented no evidence at all of lies and fabrications just bluster.
 
QUOTE=HighRiser;9358171]Cite your christing source, for chrissake.

Look up the 9/11 Commission report and search for June 12, 2001, the reference for the fact that KSM was directing this attack is listed on page 276.

The fact that Moussaoui wanted to fly a large US aircraft into one of the World Trade Center towers is listed on the DOJ IG report on page 154.[/quote]

I think KSM was directing the attack, in fact I think he was in Las Vegas meeting with the teams of hijackers.
 
No one knew it was happening. You make this part up, the knowing of how, which planes, how they would kill pilots and crew to take the planes.

No way they knew the exact date, and exactly how. Arresting or killing two of the terrorists would do what? Nothing.

Looks like you want special interrogation to take place before 911, arresting people you think are bad. You focus in hind sight on two of thousands of people, and make up woo. In fact your stuff is all political claptrap, not a thing to do with 911 CTs.

Thousands of bad guys, and you back in some silly claims. You can't list all the threats to the USA before 911, you focus on 911 after the fact, and pretend to read minds.


Your post boils down to number 1. You voted for 1. The terrorists did it. Or 2. lol; they knew a big attack was coming... What a load of silly

They would have stopped it, jumped up from first class a rogue group of CIA operatives save three planes from hijacking and terror impacts on the USA. CIA budget soars, hero medals are awarded, ...

You are full of woo

The Israelis knew about the pending attack. The hijackers war under surveillance by the Israeli Art Students.
 
Look up the 9/11 Commission report and search for June 12, 2001, the reference for the fact that KSM was directing this attack is listed on page 276.

The fact that Moussaoui wanted to fly a large US aircraft into one of the World Trade Center towers is listed on the DOJ IG report on page 154.

I think KSM was directing the attack, in fact I think he was in Las Vegas meeting with the teams of hijackers.

According to the 9/11 Commission report the CIA was told on June 12, 2001 that KSM was directing this attack. The CIA already had KSM's Bojinka plot to hijack multiple large US airliners and crash these into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the US Capitol Building.

So when the Director of the CIA, George Tenet, flew down to Crawford Texas, on August 24, 2001, for a 6 hour long meeting with the President, he already knew Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US, knew that the other al Qaeda terrorists that KSM was recruiting and sending into the US in the summer of 2001 were meeting up with Mihdhar and Hazmi on order to take part in thus huge al Qaeda terrorist attack and knew this attack with result in the murder of thousands of Americans.

CIA Director Tenet also knew that by refusing to give his man at the FBI HQ, Tom Wilshire, permission to give the information that the CIA had from the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting, that Mihdhar and Hazmi had been at that meeting with Walid Bin Attash actually planning the Cole bombing, would effectively sabotage any chance that the FBI Cole bombing investigators had to start any investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi. The CIA and FBI HQ also knew that withholding this information from the FBI Cole bombing investigators would block these investigators from preventing this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack and that as direct result of their actions thousands of Americans would be murdered in this huge attack.
 
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No one knew it was happening. You make this part up, the knowing of how, which planes, how they would kill pilots and crew to take the planes.

No way they knew the exact date, and exactly how. Arresting or killing two of the terrorists would do what? Nothing.

Looks like you want special interrogation to take place before 911, arresting people you think are bad. You focus in hind sight on two of thousands of people, and make up woo. In fact your stuff is all political claptrap, not a thing to do with 911 CTs.

Thousands of bad guys, and you back in some silly claims. You can't list all the threats to the USA before 911, you focus on 911 after the fact, and pretend to read minds.

All the FBI HQ had to do was look up the credit card charges for Mihdhar and Hazmi, according to George Tenet these credit card numbers were used to but ten of the tickets for the hijacked aircraft used on 9/11.


Your post boils down to number 1. You voted for 1. The terrorists did it. Or 2. lol; they knew a big attack was coming... What a load of silly

They would have stopped it, jumped up from first class a rogue group of CIA operatives save three planes from hijacking and terror impacts on the USA. CIA budget soars, hero medals are awarded, ...

You are full of woo

The CIA clearly knew this huge al Qaeda terrorist attack was taking place. George Tenet, Cofer Black, and Richard Blee had all been at the White House on July 10, 2001 to tell Rice, Hadley, and Clarke that a huge al Qaeda terrorist attack was just about to take place inside of the US and that it would result in mass US casualties. This information is found in the Bob Woodward’s book “State of Denial”.

So why was this information not in the Joint Inquiry Committee on 9/11 report or the 9/11 Commission report when Tenet had been interviewed not only by Bob Woodward but by the Joint Inquiry Committee and the 9/11 Commission several times. Is this more direct evidence of a massive criminal cover up at the highest levels of the US government to hide why the attacks on 9/11 had taken place?

It would appear so!

From your post:

"No way they knew the exact date, and exactly how. Arresting or killing two of the terrorists would do what? Nothing."

All the FBI HQ had to do was look up the credit card charges for Mihdhar and Hazmi, according to George Tenet these credit card numbers were used to buy ten of the tickets for the hijackers used on 9/11.
 

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