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Does God ever fail to keep his promises?

Brainache said:
It's not exactly a false accusation. Your first post is full of numerology.
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Are you using the word "numerology" as a verb or a noun? And based upon this extremely fluid definition I think our computers are also guilty of numerology although in the silent form.
 
mikeb768 said:
And based upon this extremely fluid definition I think our computers are also guilty of numerology although in the silent form.
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It has a very specific definition that has nothing to do with computers, because computers don't have anything to do with the divine or mystical.
 
mikeb768 said:
Are you using the word "numerology" as a verb or a noun? And based upon this extremely fluid definition I think our computers are also guilty of numerology although in the silent form.
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Noun I think. My computer uses maths, not numerology. If it was numerological instead of mathematical it would give different results every time.
 
Brainache said:
Noun I think. My computer uses maths, not numerology. If it was numerological instead of mathematical it would give different results every time.
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I think I have a solution which we can all agree on. Those who claim my words to be "numerology" can print out the original post and then blacken out the formulas to include any addition "+" symbols, as well as any strange and mystical words such as "phenomenon" or others, leaving only the initial witty poem, the reference to the where the verse is found [89:3] and the following numbers 6555, 6236, 50, 27, 27, and 50. Happy? Are you Happy now!
 
Senex said:
You mean like pre-resurrection plastic surgery was done? Where's the truth in prophesying laws? That's just not right.
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They're apparently given entirely new bodies which have been restored to their prime and with their virginity returned. "Indeed, We have produced the women of Paradise in a [new] creation, and made them virgins, devoted [to their husbands] and of equal age." (Q56:35-37, Sahih International translation)
 
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mikeb768 said:
I think I have a solution which we can all agree on. Those who claim my words to be "numerology" can print out the original post and then blacken out the formulas to include any addition "+" symbols, as well as any strange and mystical words such as "phenomenon" or others, leaving only the initial witty poem, the reference to the where the verse is found [89:3] and the following numbers 6555, 6236, 50, 27, 27, and 50. Happy? Are you Happy now!
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Maybe you should ask Allah to grant you some reading comprehension.
 
mikeb768 said:
I think I have a solution which we can all agree on. Those who claim my words to be "numerology" can print out the original post and then blacken out the formulas to include any addition "+" symbols, as well as any strange and mystical words such as "phenomenon" or others, leaving only the initial witty poem, the reference to the where the verse is found [89:3] and the following numbers 6555, 6236, 50, 27, 27, and 50. Happy? Are you Happy now!
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The problem is that you assign special significance to these numbers. I have no doubt that if there were more or less suras in the quoran you'd find a way to make those numbers significant too. That is the problem with Numerology, you start with a conclusion and then pick whatever numbers and/or functions to reach your pre-determined result. Useless.
 
ANTPogo said:
They're apparently given entirely new bodies which have been restored to their prime and with their virginity returned. "Indeed, We have produced the women of Paradise in a [new] creation, and made them virgins, devoted [to their husbands] and of equal age." (Q56:35-37, Sahih International translation)
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That sounds more like wishful thinking than sound prophesy to me. What does the math er numerology er numbers you got in that column you added up say about this?
 
mikeb768 said:
The irony is that all of the posts which have been made to try and discredit “numbers and arithmetic” (by label these things as something different than what they actually are) are being made by individuals who are either sitting behind or holding a piece of technology which depends on numbers and arithmetic.

Not only that but all of these mentioned devices preform basic addition (just as I have shown) as well as many more complex calculations and require accuracy to the degree that if just one “0” and one “1” are interchanged the system does not work.

From now on I opt we should only entertain posts where the poster cries “Numerology” which have been made from devices which operate without the help of numbers, calculations, CPUs, etc. If you respond with any of the following words or phrases “ Numerology!”, “Witchcraft!”, “Magic!” can you please also submit a picture of your non calculating/ non arithmetic based device for the enjoyment of us all. With pulleys and gears you may have your work cut out, but from what I have heard vacuum tubes are both quiet and leave only a very small carbon footprint.
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Where on earth do you get the idea that anyone is discrediting numbers and arithmetic? People here are discrediting numerology, which is the stupid misapplication of numbers and arithmetic to produce nonsensical conclusions. That is no more discrediting numbers and arithmetic than it would be to say that erasing pornographic spam from my mailbox is discrediting the English language.
 
bruto said:
Where on earth do you get the idea that anyone is discrediting numbers and arithmetic?
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So would you admit that you agree with the numbers which I have added together minus any numerology of course.

Key word in that sentence being "added" as in addition.
 
Brainache said:
That is the problem with Numerology, you start with a conclusion and then pick whatever numbers and/or functions to reach your pre-determined result. Useless.
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Do you have any examples of this as it would be nice to compare another piece of work or a book where the author has managed to produce similar results?
 
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mikeb768 said:
So would you admit that you agree with the numbers which I have added together minus any numerology of course.

Key word in that sentence being "added" as in addition.
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I suppose it depends on what you mean by "agree." Not having bothered to check the arithmetic I can concede that your arithmetic is probably correct, but that does not mean that it is useful or meaningful.
 
Craig B said:
That was the "Great Disappointment". The Seventh Day Adventists originated from that event. They seem indeed to be crazy. My old grandmother was one.
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Thanks for that. I had not really put it together, although I also have some 7th Day Adventist relatives, and even live within a stone's throw of William Miller's first church. For those wishing to see the chart I'm referring to, here is a page with a slightly less tattered copy. An impressive bit of charting here:

http://www.2520yearprophecy.com/1842.html

e.t.a. and by the way, you might want to browse around on that website a bit. The original poster here is a small fish in a big pond, a piker. Here is lunacy of a very high order indeed.
 
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mikeb768 said:
Do you have any examples of this as it would be nice to compare another piece of work or a book where the author has managed to produce similar results?
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Again, you have inadvertantly pointed out another flaw in Numerology: No two Numerologists produce the same results. If two Mathematicians are given a problem to solve, if they are competent Mathematicians it doesn't matter what method they use, they will arrive at the same conclusion. Give two Numerologists the same set of numbers and one will tell you it means the world is going to end next week, while the other says it proves Aliens killed Kennedy or something.

If you can't see how useless that is, I can't help you.
 
Brainache said:
Again, you have inadvertantly pointed out another flaw in Numerology: No two Numerologists produce the same results. If two Mathematicians are given a problem to solve, if they are competent Mathematicians it doesn't matter what method they use, they will arrive at the same conclusion. Give two Numerologists the same set of numbers and one will tell you it means the world is going to end next week, while the other says it proves Aliens killed Kennedy or something.
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No two Numerologists produce the same results? What are you talking about? I never claimed to be a "Numerologists", and no Numerologists is here claiming to have reproduced these same results.

Now is it possible for someone to count and add numbers in the same manner as I have done, sure it is I actually invited people to do this in my OP. If the results are different then lets find out why, so that we can rule out any mistakes and get closer to the truth.

Can you clarify your post because as it stands it makes no sense and does nothing to add to the discussion. Who is claiming to have done the same thing which I have shown but which produces different results?
 
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