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Proving the Aurora Theater Shooting's official story false

carlitos said:
Another lie.

Photos of an AR 15 round penetrating 4 consecutive sheets of drywall.

Stop lying please. Your fantasy is silly, and you are unimportant.
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And, importantly:


It was tumbling and deviated from a straight line of sight, but it went through all 4 walls.
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So a simple straight-line projection of the bullet's path is completely unrealistic.


And, once again, these are tests that almost anyone in the US could replicate, if they really wanted to learn the truth of what was possible, or not, in Aurora. That Neveos chooses to remain ignorant, and make claims that are not supported by reality, is quite telling.
 
Walls work differently in CT Land. You'll remember they're also built to withstand impacts from fully fuelled 757s at top speed.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
No. The wall isn't high enough.

In the various trajectories you drew, the bullet would not have to pass through the stair wall since it isn't high enough. Unless you place the shooter as high up in the tiered seating as his victim, the bullet would pass over the wall at a point further forward than the victim's row, where the wall is lower.
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Oh, ok, so you're saying the bullet went over a couple walls of this height from the exit door he entered...
http://s17.postimg.org/ays4sdv7z/theater9a.jpg

Well, first, is that "many" places he could fire from? You put it best:

Jack by the hedge said:
i.e. It was wrong. Fine.
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Secondly, he exhausted a shotgun before he switched to the assault rifle (which he actually fired into the ceiling first), and by that time (that first pause of changing weapons) witnesses said he was already moving about the theater. So your penetrating projecticle from the angle of the exit door (even if there was some "over the banister" shot possible [which there isn't]) is a shotgun pellet which has to break apart inside of Gage's arm (btw).

Jack by the hedge said:
In order to pass through all 3 walls, the shooter would need to move forward to be be partway up the stairs, crouch down and require a miracle not to have his shot blocked by several other people.

Face it, your version just doesn't work. A standing shooter didn't shoot under two bannister rails to hit someone above his eyeline.
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Yeah no ****. Welcome to the club, conspiracy theorist.

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Horatius said:
And, once again, these are tests that almost anyone in the US could replicate, if they really wanted to learn the truth of what was possible, or not, in Aurora. That Neveos chooses to remain ignorant, and make claims that are not supported by reality, is quite telling.
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lol rejecting testimony of "my leg got really hot". Bro, you don't even know what ignorance is.

As he said, that bullet went to tumbling off course, and that's just 4 sheets of dry wall. What if it were six? No where did I ever say bullets couldn't go through walls, so I don't know why you guys keep getting off on telling me that... It's the amount of walls. Nevermind the propensity for the bullet to hit any number of possible materials besides clay-like dry wall: wood, stone, metal, cloth, whatever.
 
Neveos said:
lol rejecting testimony of "my leg got really hot". Bro, you don't even know what ignorance is.
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But you do know what ignorance is?

The drywall vest fails in tests. Darn, the gypsum industry could have made bullet proof vests. Wood failed. Steel framing failed. What next?

My leg got hot. lol, it means her leg got hot. Amazingly your nerves can make your brain think about anything, as your brain proves it can't do criminal investigations without inserting silly stuff.

Was her leg asleep when she work up due to GUN fire? My leg is hot - the smoking gun for your fantasy?

How much more can you make up?
 
Neveos said:
lol rejecting testimony of "my leg got really hot". Bro, you don't even know what ignorance is.

As he said, that bullet went to tumbling off course, and that's just 4 sheets of dry wall. What if it were six? No where did I ever say bullets couldn't go through walls, so I don't know why you guys keep getting off on telling me that... It's the amount of walls. Nevermind the propensity for the bullet to hit any number of possible materials besides clay-like dry wall: wood, stone, metal, cloth, whatever.
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How about you do some actual research and find out what those walls are made of, find out what the actual height of the safety railings is?
 
Neveos said:
lol rejecting testimony of "my leg got really hot". Bro, you don't even know what ignorance is.
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What a shock. My suggestion that you could actually do some experiments, and learn for yourself what is actually possible with rifles shooting through walls, is met with nothing more than insulting condescension.


*********** typical. This **** is why you fail at convincing anyone else to accept your beliefs, desperate attempts to label people in this thread as "agreeing with you" notwithstanding.
 
phunk said:
So you agree with the official story?
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This.

Neveos, would you care to, after playing this game for over a dozen pages, tell us what you believe and back it up somehow, maybe start answering the quesrtions we're asking you? If you're just trolling, fine, we're used to that here, but if you want to be taken seriously, it'd be really nice if you tried to be a bit mature and constructive.

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Neveos said:
lol rejecting testimony of "my leg got really hot". Bro, you don't even know what ignorance is.
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We've already pointed out to you that this is consistent with being hit by a bullet, so I don't know where you're getting it from that we're "ignoring" this out-of-context statement.

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So:
1. what exactly is your claim re. the out-of-context "my leg got really hot" statement?
2. how does this out-of-context statement back up that claim?
3. is this view consistent with the rest of the evidence, or does it only make sense if you take things out of context?
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Safe-Keeper said:
If you're just trolling, fine, we're used to that here, but if you want to be taken seriously, it'd be really nice if you tried to be a bit mature and constructive.
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Given his behavior, I'm assuming he doesn't care to be taken seriously.
 
Rachel Fedeli ("gas cannisters thrown" in adjoining theater claim) here is her actual words in audio form,she doesnt mention that,just couple of "pops" and puff of smoke. So I think we can rule her testimony unsafe when she contradicts herself (albeit from twitter). Im guessing ,but could the smoke be plasterboard dust,from bullets passing through?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgPReW7N83U
 
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