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The next time someone reaches-out to some person making woo-woo claims (sorry, but there it is), remember how badly wrong this attempt has gone.

And this is as good as it gets in my experience.
 
flaccon said:
As for you not? hearing anything on those few recordings I played you, I'm afraid you are the only one out of 10 so far who has heard nothing. Being that one is a GP and the other a Priest, I shall continue to test further. Thank u for your time.
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A GP and a priest huh? Well, that settles it.

These aren't tests. These listening parties have no meaning or value. You are not measuring anything outside of pareidolia, group behavior and wishful thinking. If you really wanted to, you could conduct simple, straightforward tests designed to actually investigate your claims. But I doubt you have any real interest in any of that. And I doubt you would accept the results of a properly conducted failed test even if you agreed to one. Because this isn't about evidence, this is about faith.

Since I personally don't believe you are receiving messages from your deceased stepfather, the only other reasonable conclusion is that these complex and articulate messages (which seem to have recently degraded into barely audible static, for some reason) are actually you talking to yourself. And from your website I see you've been telling yourself that cats are Satan's minions, are poisoning humanity and should be driven to extinction. This is obscene and you should be ashamed of yourself and the voices in your head.
 
Biscuit said:
... What have you done to eliminate pareidolia?
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I think the process goes something like this:

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John Jones said:
The next time someone reaches-out to some person making woo-woo claims (sorry, but there it is), remember how badly wrong this attempt has gone.

And this is as good as it gets in my experience.
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I would certainly advise caution, and for people to take lessons from this, but it is not the best you can hope for, in general (though it may have been in this case). Pixel42 can say more, but I understand that DowserDon was fine to work with (although he remained unconvinced by his failure to pass the tests he took part in).
 
flaccon said:
This weekend I concentrated on how to calibrate a second laptop.
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As others have pointed out, this doesn't make sense. Whatever it is you were doing, "calibrating" is not a good word for it and doesn't describe it to anyone.

flaccon said:
Mr Roberts emailed me
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Who? I have been following this thread, but if you've mentioned him, I don't remember it. In any case, he hasn't featured prominently enough for you to speak of him as if everyone can follow who you mean. A little background would help: "Mr. Roberts, my __ who is relevent because of __, emailed me."

flaccon said:
through two silent recordings. I played the recording via my laptop. As I played this recording in Chester, it altered Mr Roberts recording in Nottingham (one single voice) I drove to Nottingham yesterday. Mr Roberts and I did several tests. Now whenever Mr Roberts records, he has just the one voice.
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You keep messing around with these recordings in ways you consider "tests" but which are not useful tests in anyway. All they establish is that you hear voices, which was where the thread started. There's really no point in that, except to entertain yourself.

flaccon said:
I asked for Mr Alderbank, and was told no Alderbank lived here. I said sorry I must have the wrong number. She offered me a mobile number an I refused to take it. I said I will contact him when I get back home. Alderbank, it is not in my nature to offend anyone anywhere. Please ask your daughter if I ws at all offensive, as it was a normal phone call. I wanted to share the news with you (I call it Eureka) of calibrating Mr Roberts laptop via the web. However, if you wish to inform the police for that phonecall, please do so, I said nothing wrong at all. Your daughter cannot be upset, I said nothing other than "no it's ok, I will get back to him"
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Did you really ask for "Mr. Alderbank", or are you using that as a code for his real name (since he hasn't revealed it on the forum)? If you called and asked for him by his screen name, which there's no reason to think his family would know, do you see how that seems strange? You could probably avoid more communication flubs if you stop and ask yourself whether the person you are speaking to needs any explanation.

If I were to need to get hold of someone by phone, and normally knew them by a screen name, I would start out by explaining that fact when I made the call.

flaccon said:
I have no idea why Alderbank did not hear any words on the records, his nephew heard some from 6 foot away.
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See, this makes me doubt your story that the GP and priest heard it. Because we have it from Alderbank, repeatedly, that his nephew did not hear any words. He's corrected you on that point more than once, and yet you keep believing that he did.

You want so badly for people to hear what you're hearing, I think you aren't listening to them when they say they don't.
 
I will weigh in as well. I tried listening to the files that Alderbank uploaded before, but I did not have amplified speakers. I finally connected an external amplifier and a good speaker. I do not hear any words.

I had my wife listen, and she was quite certain that spirits are robins (the bird, not Robin1, who is something quite different).

And I am the one that heard words in the recording uploaded by Stray Cat.

So the number of people who do not hear anything is mounting.

Edit: flaccon: will you concded that listener's [stet] who are not pre-disposed to hear something, in fact, hear nothing in your recordings?

IXP
 
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I listened to the recordings as well. There are garbled noises, ripe for pareidolia, especially if you listen over and over again. But actual words and sentences?

No.
 
I will weigh in as well. I heard no voices on any of the recordings that I have listened to so far, and I did listen to each one multiple times. This includes the ones uploaded by Straycat, Alderbank and the ones posted to the g-mail account by flaccon.
 
AdMan said:
I listened to the recordings as well. There are garbled noises, ripe for pareidolia, especially if you listen over and over again. But actual words and sentences?

No.
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I disagree. Not ripe for pareidolia. You have to reach so very far to interpret the noise as words, let alone sentences.
 
The cloud face picture I posted is ripe for pareidolia. The underwater electronic gargling I've heard in "the evidence" is ripe for wishful thinking.
 
zooterkin said:
So you assumed Alderbank was his real name?:eek: Would you expect someone to ring you and ask for Ms Flaccon?

I hope it's not taken the wrong way if I suggest Alderbank might have a chat with his daughter about what information she should give out over the phone. I was taught you should not volunteer your name to someone you don't know (especially if they're asking for someone else), and certainly not offer to give out any other phone numbers.
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Good advice.
If I may add to this, when you get a call like that:
1 - calm down
2 - verify facts when you next see the daughter (or whoever answered)
3 - consider whether action is required, or if it appears to be a misunderstanding
4 - If action is required, wait to speak to the person involved rather than 'shouting' about it on the internet. You have their phone number.
 
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