Continuation: Discussion of the George Zimmerman case

[12AX7]

I've known ********ters before, and George is up there with the best.

Some of his supporters in this thread deserve at least an honorable mention.

 

[Unabogie]

And yet the word north doesn't appear in that claim...

And you know it was north because there is no grass on the south side of the walk, only the north ?

Because he explained that his attacker came from the south, punched him, and he fell backwards. He also didn't mention the words "south", "east", or "west", yet we can look at a map, can't we?

Good luck with this spin at trial though. Should be good for entertainment.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Go ahead and stop dodging. I held up my part of the deal. Your turn.

Nice of you to acknowledge your dishonesty in calling it my CT.

In a nutshell, some people believe that crump picked a girl to be DeeDee for his interview.

Straight from the horses mouth:

Yes, someone showed up for a sworn statement with Detective O’Steen and Galbrieth, April 2nd. But that someone was not the person Benjamin Crump introduced to the media on March 20th.

The person Benjamin Crump introduced to the media, the 16-year-old “DeeDee” was actually a fraud, a figment, a story per se’, built from a few actual real nuggets within the life of Tryavon Martin. Using phone records Tracy Martin and Ben Crump identified a girl Trayvon spoke with frequently and was good friends with.

Unbeknownst to her – she became DeeDee. Because she is a figment, let’s call this version of DeeDee “Keyser Soze”. This is how she was described by Crump:

16-years-old

A girlfriend whom shared puppy love with Trayvon.

A girl he knew from Kindergarten.

A girl he was on the phone with for 700 minutes on the day he was killed.

A girl neither Tracy Martin, nor Sybrina Fulton knew.

A girl who was on the phone with Trayvon when he encountered George.

A girl who never called police after hearing of his death. Nor did she tell anyone. Nor did she tell her Mom or Dad. Nor did she tell her friends. From 2/26 to 3/19 she had no contact with anyone.

A girl so devastated she could not attend the viewing or funeral.

A girl so devastated she was hospitalized during the weekend of 3/1, 3/2 and 3/3.

A girl they only discovered through phone records on (sunday) 3/18, they interviewed for national TV broadcast, exclusively ABC, via phone on 3/19. (*an interview where the rules were the reporter, Matt Gutman, was not allowed to ask questions – just listen). And then delivered the narrative of all above to the media on Tuesday 3/20.

A girl whose parents would NOT allow her to talk to the police, the media, or anyone – ever0

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The racial drums beat louder. But still no change, and now law enforcement together with State Attorney General Pam Bondi, were openly being queried about Keyser Soze. And could only repeat: she, whoever she is, is refusing to talk to us. (*Tawana Brawley like, no?) This continued from March 20th until April 1st.

So Crump had to produce a person, a physical person, to be sworn by the state to give a witness statement. He did, and some 18-year-old girl showed up at the FDLE office to swear a statement. That is the “DeeDee” Bernie De La Rionda knows.
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[Megalodon]

I hilited the part you should provide evidence for.

They were heard arguing, they were seen wrestling, he had been chasing the kid. It's unlikely that he didn't grab him. However, I have no evidence, which is why I used "probably".

Assaulting someone as a preemptive strike[/QUOTE]

I hilited the part you should provide evidence for.

GZ is obviously not telling the truth. The physical evidence, timeline of the events and witness reports in no way corroborate his many stories of being assaulted without provocation.

That you go to such great lengths to try and shoehorn your reality into GZ's many stories is mind-boggling.

You are treating a lying killer as the victim, while casting aspersions on a dead 17 year old. At the end of the day, GZ followed, harassed and shot an unarmed kid.

He just needs to have a gun freak in the jury to get away with it, but his crime is undeniable.

 

[johnny karate]

And yet the word north doesn't appear in that claim...

And you know it was north because there is no grass on the south side of the walk, only the north ?

Because he explained that his attacker came from the south, punched him, and he fell backwards. He also didn't mention the words "south", "east", or "west", yet we can look at a map, can't we?

Based on what Zimmerman claimed he should have fallen backwards to the west:

Zimmerman: And I started walking back to my car…
Serino: Um hum
Zimmerman: And that’s when he yelled out and I turned around.
Serino: How far away was he? Was he up on you already or…?
Zimmerman: (unintelligible)
Serino: Can’t tell.
Zimmerman: As soon as he did that I started backing up towards my car and that’s when I s…I wanted to call 911 instead of non-emergency.

 

[Unabogie]

Nice of you to acknowledge your dishonesty in calling it my CT.

In a nutshell, some people believe that crump picked a girl to be DeeDee for his interview.

Straight from the horses mouth:

Yes, someone showed up for a sworn statement with Detective O’Steen and Galbrieth, April 2nd. But that someone was not the person Benjamin Crump introduced to the media on March 20th.

The person Benjamin Crump introduced to the media, the 16-year-old “DeeDee” was actually a fraud, a figment, a story per se’, built from a few actual real nuggets within the life of Tryavon Martin. Using phone records Tracy Martin and Ben Crump identified a girl Trayvon spoke with frequently and was good friends with.

Unbeknownst to her – she became DeeDee. Because she is a figment, let’s call this version of DeeDee “Keyser Soze”. This is how she was described by Crump:

16-years-old

A girlfriend whom shared puppy love with Trayvon.

A girl he knew from Kindergarten.

A girl he was on the phone with for 700 minutes on the day he was killed.

A girl neither Tracy Martin, nor Sybrina Fulton knew.

A girl who was on the phone with Trayvon when he encountered George.

A girl who never called police after hearing of his death. Nor did she tell anyone. Nor did she tell her Mom or Dad. Nor did she tell her friends. From 2/26 to 3/19 she had no contact with anyone.

A girl so devastated she could not attend the viewing or funeral.

A girl so devastated she was hospitalized during the weekend of 3/1, 3/2 and 3/3.

A girl they only discovered through phone records on (sunday) 3/18, they interviewed for national TV broadcast, exclusively ABC, via phone on 3/19. (*an interview where the rules were the reporter, Matt Gutman, was not allowed to ask questions – just listen). And then delivered the narrative of all above to the media on Tuesday 3/20.

A girl whose parents would NOT allow her to talk to the police, the media, or anyone – ever0

...
The racial drums beat louder. But still no change, and now law enforcement together with State Attorney General Pam Bondi, were openly being queried about Keyser Soze. And could only repeat: she, whoever she is, is refusing to talk to us. (*Tawana Brawley like, no?) This continued from March 20th until April 1st.

So Crump had to produce a person, a physical person, to be sworn by the state to give a witness statement. He did, and some 18-year-old girl showed up at the FDLE office to swear a statement. That is the “DeeDee” Bernie De La Rionda knows.
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And so since you obviously don't believe any of this silliness, tell us again why it's important that Witness 8 knew how to spell Trayvon's name?

 

[TheL8Elvis]

And so since you obviously don't believe any of this silliness, tell us again why it's important that Witness 8 knew how to spell Trayvon's name?

Well, I am trying to figure out which of the below is true:

A girlfriend whom shared puppy love with Trayvon.

A girl he knew from Kindergarten.

A girl he was on the phone with for 700 minutes on the day he was killed.

A girl neither Tracy Martin, nor Sybrina Fulton knew.

Because if the two bolded ones are true, I'm a bit shocked she can't spell his name.

Aren't you ?

It all goes back to this:

It has to do with her credibility, which has to do with whether she is a credible witness. But surely you knew that ?

 

[TheL8Elvis]

They were heard arguing, they were seen wrestling, he had been chasing the kid. It's unlikely that he didn't grab him. However, I have no evidence, which is why I used "probably".

Assaulting someone as a preemptive strike
I hilited the part you should provide evidence for.

That wasn't a claim so much as explaining the difference between the two stories.

And I think that with no evidence, "probably" may not be the most appropriate word.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Based on what Zimmerman claimed he should have fallen backwards to the west:

I started backing up towards my car

I think that leaves him room to fall backwards and to either the north or the south.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

I didn't claim you said any of the stuff above. I didn't strip out the context of what you wrote. I left it in context.

Please explain to me which other part of this post you wanted me to leave in so that the context was there ?

Go ahead and stop dodging. I held up my part of the deal. Your turn.

And I would still like an answer to my question above. I don't see where I took your quote out of context at all.

 

[12AX7]

...I'm a bit shocked she can't spell his name.

...along with her inability to spell the name of her friend since kindergarten.

Pound that table, E.

 

[Rare Truth]

Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis
...I'm a bit shocked she can't spell his name.

Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis
...along with her inability to spell the name of her friend since kindergarten.

I have some friends I've known for decades that still can't spell my name right.

Shock!

 

[Alt+F4]

I'm a bit shocked she can't spell his name.

My WIFE of six years still sometimes spells my name wrong. It's not that she doesn't care, it's just that spelling is not her forte.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Pound that table, E.

I have some friends I've known for decades that still can't spell my name right.

Shock!

My WIFE of six years still sometimes spells my name wrong. It's not that she doesn't care, it's just that spelling is not her forte.

Must ... defend .... deedee ...at all costs ...

 

[Rare Truth]

My WIFE of six years still sometimes spells my name wrong. It's not that she doesn't care, it's just that spelling is not her forte.

There are five different ways to spell my name. People often use variations, cause, you know, that's what people do sometime. Even people you know well.

Trayvon is not a common name. Why zimbots would pick out the spelling error as if it was a gotcha just shows the desperation.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

There are five different ways to spell my name. People often use variations, cause, you know, that's what people do sometime. Even people you know well.

Trayvon is not a common name. Why zimbots would pick out the spelling error as if it was a gotcha just shows the desperation.

A reasonable person can question why someone in "puppy love" with TM, who has known him since kindergarten would spell his name wrong in a letter (???) written to his mother, and whether that might be evidence that she didn't know him as well as she claimed.


Desperation is making accusations like this:

No, it's not.

They are witness tamperers, and Jeralyn is in bed with them.

Filthy skunks and the worst dregs of society.

The Illegal Activity of “Doxing”: Revealing “documents or personal information” about a person, without their permission, with the intent to Threaten, Harass, Intimidate, Shame, Humiliate or Place at Risk….


The majority of this article outlines the specific illegal and criminal activity of Miami Herald reporter Frances Robles on 7/13/12 and the substantial legal remedies available to Mark and Sondra Osterman.
However, due to new federal laws that apply to internet cyber-stalking, the broader points now apply in multiple internet forums and social media sites
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The Conservative Treehouse is now in the process of specific legal criminal and civil remedies against various sites affiliated with Trayvon Martin.

The Treeskunk dwellers are in a world of trouble for their criminal activities.

Good.

But not actually providing any evidence.

 

[Rare Truth]

A reasonable person can question why someone in "puppy love" with TM, who has known him since kindergarten would spell his name wrong in a letter (???) written to his mother, and whether that might be evidence that she didn't know him as well as she claimed.

Desperation. It's all the Zimbots have at this point. Your side HATES Witness 8, and will do anything they can to disparage her.

Won't work, and I'm damn glad BDLR is taking all measures to protect her from the evil people out there who want to harm her.

Desperation is making accusations like this:

The CTH doxing and witness tampering is a matter of record. Time will play this one out, and it will not play kindly for the goons who have tried to harass this witness. O'Mara's ties to the Treehouse will not play well in the courts either.

These things take time. I'd be willing to bet a sig line for a month the doxing and witness harassing will be a matter of criminal record.

Are you willing to bet it won't? Man up if you are. I'm willing to put my words on the line for it. Are you?

 

[Unabogie]

A reasonable person can question why someone in "puppy love" with TM, who has known him since kindergarten would spell his name wrong in a letter (???) written to his mother, and whether that might be evidence that she didn't know him as well as she claimed.

It doesn't matter how well she knew him if she was really on the phone that night, right? And I thought we'd established a year ago that she wasn't his girlfriend, just a friend. But either way, does she need to know him well in order to accurately tell what she heard? It's funny that this inconsistency, which is so far from "material" as can be, is thrust in our faces as some sort of AHA! when actual, glaring lies from George about how he came to murder an unarmed teenager are hand waved away as not really mattering, since you know, human memory and shock, and what not.

 

[KatieG]

Must ... defend .... deedee ...at all costs ...

Or conversely:

Must ... trash ... DeeDee ... at all costs ....

With all the kre8tive ways parents use now to spell the names they give their children, I'm not that surprised. However, if that's one the things being used to trash her, the CT needs to rethink their methods. If the phone bills show that the number on the bill belongs to DeeDee or her parents, whatever will the CT do then?

 

[Alt+F4]

A reasonable person can question why someone in "puppy love" with TM, who has known him since kindergarten would spell his name wrong in a letter (???) written to his mother, and whether that might be evidence that she didn't know him as well as she claimed.

My wife misspelled my first name on her most recent Valentine's Day card to me. We are very much in love and her misspelling of my name means nothing, says nothing about our relationship. My girl is just a crappy speller.