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Janadele said:
... Anti-Mormons are a peculiar people, they devote their life and resources to following Satan and attempting to discredit the Lord's Church through any means they can. Demonstrating outside the Conference Centre, disrupting LDS Pageants, distributing false and misleading movies and literature... are just some of their antics.
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Akhenaten said:
In Perth??? Pics or it didn't happen.
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My own personal experiences of such are numerous. For example, during my visits to the US:
Whilst attending the Conference Centre, Tabernacle, and Temple in Salt Lake City. Whilst attending the LDS Pageants at Nauvoo Illinois, at Manti Utah, at Palmyra Wayne county, Western New York ... even at the entrance to the Deseret Bookshop at Palmyra:
Objectionable placards shoved in my face. Loudspeakers screaming obscenities and blasphemy. Trucks with obscene placards blocking parking entrances. Anti-Mormon literature pushed upon me while blocking my walkway.
 
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Janadele said:
My own personal experiences of such are numerous. For example, during my visits to the US:
Whilst attending the Conference Centre, Tabernacle, and Temple in Salt Lake City. Whilst attending the LDS Pageants at Nauvoo Illinois, at Manti Utah, at Palmyra Wayne county, Western New York ... even at the entrance to the Deseret Bookshop at Palmyra:
Objectionable placards shoved in my face. Loudspeakers screaming obscenities and blasphemy. Trucks with obscene placards blocking parking entrances. Anti-Morman literature pushed upon me while blocking my walkway.
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Visits, you say?

Anyway, my original challenge stands.

Pics or it didn't happen.
 
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Akhenaten said:
Apparently she's heard rumours about the Secret Association of Totalitarian Anti-mormon Ne'er-do-wells.

Best to keep it quiet I think, or she'll have the Internet Police on us.
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Or worse, the mods.
 
Akhenaten said:
I originally thought that there must be kind of reward sytem in operation that works by giving Frequent Preacher™ points to LDS members for their efforts in browbeating the unsaved that would count towards their Godhood And Planet Ownership Score, but since other members/ex-members of the LDS have chimed in and made it obvious that Janadele is in a branch of the cult with but a single member I find myself sharing your question.

WTF is the reason for this forum-wide campaign of obnoxia?
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Maybe that Burning in the Bosom is getting too hot.
 
Janadele said:
My own personal experiences of such are numerous. For example, during my visits to the US:
Whilst attending the Conference Centre, Tabernacle, and Temple in Salt Lake City. Whilst attending the LDS Pageants at Nauvoo Illinois, at Manti Utah, at Palmyra Wayne county, Western New York ... even at the entrance to the Deseret Bookshop at Palmyra:
Objectionable placards shoved in my face. Loudspeakers screaming obscenities and blasphemy. Trucks with obscene placards blocking parking entrances. Anti-Morman literature pushed upon me while blocking my walkway.
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I have sympathy for your unpleasant experiences. The behaviours to which you were subjected were uncivil, uncalled-for, and indefensible.

May I ask, just for clarification, which of the uncivil acts were perpetrated by Egyptologists promoting an accurate translation of the Book of Breathing?
 
Akhenaten said:
Visits, you say?

Anyway, my original challenge stands.

Pics or it didn't happen.
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I've heard of Evangelical Christians going to such large Mormon gatherings with the idea of "witnessing" to Mormons, whom they are taught are members of a cult created under the influence of Satan in order to discredit the Lord's Church. (Ironic, ain't it?) But I suspect that Janadeel's descriptions are exaggerated. Mormons may take offense at these efforts (and I can't say I blame them), but they are peaceful. I suspect that the "objectionable" and "obscene" placards were mostly quotations of Bible verses and links to Evangelical websites about Mormonism.

Of course, these evangelical efforts by small numbers of representatives of yet another One True Religion™, even if they were rude, have nothing to do with academic studies which simply point to truths that contradict the claims of Joseph Smith.
 
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Slowvehicle said:
I have sympathy for your unpleasant experiences. The behaviours to which you were subjected were uncivil, uncalled-for, and indefensible.

May I ask, just for clarification, which of the uncivil acts were perpetrated by Egyptologists promoting an accurate translation of the Book of Breathing?
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I'm going with Nauvoo, Illinois, an internationally infamous hotbed of hieroglyphic hullabaloo and Egyptological enturbulation.
 
If I ask Wilma a question will she reply by referring me to something she said in reply to someone asking a completely unrelated question?
 
Foster Zygote said:
I've heard of Evangelical Christians going to such large Mormon gatherings with the idea of "witnessing" to Mormons, whom they are taught are members of a cult created under the influence of Satan in order to discredit the Lord's Church. (Ironic, ain't it?) But I suspect that Janadeel's descriptions are exaggerated. Mormons may take offense at these efforts (and I can't say I blame them), but they are peaceful. I suspect that the "objectionable" and "obscene" placards were mostly quotations of Bible verses and links to Evangelical websites about Mormonism.
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I'm at a loss to know whether to laugh or shake my head in despair.

You've gone a long way to confirming my suspicion that the anti-mormons with which Janadele feels herself beleaguered are almost exclusively members of other Christian sects and that our loose affiliation of unbelievers is the last thing that she needs to be clutching her Pearls of Great Price about.


Foster Zygote said:
Of course, these evangelical efforts by small numbers of representatives of yet another One True Religion™, even if they were rude, have nothing to do with academic studies which simply point to truths that contradict the claims of Joseph Smith.
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At least they tend to keep each other busy while the rest of us get on with figuring out the Meaning of Liff.
 
Akhenaten said:
I originally thought that there must be kind of reward sytem in operation that works by giving Frequent Preacher™ points to LDS members for their efforts in browbeating the unsaved that would count towards their Godhood And Planet Ownership Score, but since other members/ex-members of the LDS have chimed in and made it obvious that Janadele is in a branch of the cult with but a single member I find myself sharing your question.

WTF is the reason for this forum-wide campaign of obnoxia?
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I think I can answer this, O great and noble Pharaoh.

Mormons have a culture of feeling persecuted. In part, it's because many of them are generational Mormons and their ancestors truly were deeply persecuted for their beliefs, and with the strong Mormon family tradition, even though that persecution was several generations ago, they will recount that as if it happened just a few years back.

They also relive many of the experiences of the early church, such as recreating the trek westward to Utah. One of my brothers often goes on those, and as I understand it, you're assigned a role of a real pioneer. You walk hundreds of miles on foot, pull handcarts, etc, and if you happen to be playing the role of someone who died on the original trek, you actually are tapped on the shoulder and removed from the general procession, your family going on struggling without you. Obviously those sorts of reenactments as well as constant retelling of the early persecution are a bonding experience for Mormons. But I suspect it also draws people who have a bit of a persecution complex. People who like feeling put-upon for their views find a natural home in that kind of re-hashing of old wounds.

I suspect that Janadele feels that by coming here and preaching to the great unwashed and in her mind being persecuted for it, she's suffering for her religion, and it makes her faith stronger. I doubt she truly believes any of us are going to suddenly drop our skeptical viewpoint and rush to the baptismal font begging for a dip in the water, but she gets to feel a bit like a martyr.
 
joobz said:
Why do I feel "anti-mormon" is just like defining someone as "SP"
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Possibly for the same reason that I find myself using words like "enturbulation".

I'm sure that if Hubbard had lived 120 years earlier he would have invented mormons, and if Smith had lived 120 years later he would have invented $cilons.
 
Akhenaten said:
Visits, you say?

Anyway, my original challenge stands.

Pics or it didn't happen.
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I found this particularly disturbing video of a protest right in Salt Lake City. These hooligans have no respect for sacred wisdom.



Oh, the in humanity of it all. People actually sitting in quiet peaceful protest. And the protest signs with vicious hatred for all things Mormon, words like "God = Love".
 
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