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We should avoid TTTT and contribute in some other topic/issue if not in vested interests.
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We should avoid TTTT and contribute in some other topic/issue if not in vested interests.
You need to understand it at first to interact. More:
"A deeper understanding of Anekäntaväd and Syädväd provides great insight into the problems of human interactions that cause conflict, grief, envy, and hatred. Similarly it is highly applicable in understanding social problems and national strife. More importantly these doctrines also provide ways of resolving global differences and conflicts.
To be Anekäntvädi: 1) Do not insist on your own approach, 2) Accept partial truth as expressed by others, 3) Accept the truth even if it is expressed by adversaries, 4) Accept that the truth can consist of seemingly opposing views, 5) Develop a strong urge to seek truth, 6) Believe in possibilities and 7) Exercise equanimity towards all."
Daylightstar
Philosopher
Hi Kumar, I have composed a small general response to the list of principles you pasted above
1) Why then do you so boneheadedly insist on your own approach?
2) This doesn't mean declaring truth as expressed by others as partial.
3) Rejection instead.
4) Seemingly. This does not mean declaring all opposing views as equally valid.
5) In contradiction of 2 and 4.
6) Believe believe believe
7) Just keep on shoving your ideas down other people's throats.
From your posts emanates a sense of disruption of the principles you have presented here, suggesting a tendency towards creating human interactions that cause conflict, grief, envy, and hatred.
This will be bad for your karma, very very bad, Kumar.
1) Why then do you so boneheadedly insist on your own approach?
2) This doesn't mean declaring truth as expressed by others as partial.
3) Rejection instead.
4) Seemingly. This does not mean declaring all opposing views as equally valid.
5) In contradiction of 2 and 4.
6) Believe believe believe
7) Just keep on shoving your ideas down other people's throats.
From your posts emanates a sense of disruption of the principles you have presented here, suggesting a tendency towards creating human interactions that cause conflict, grief, envy, and hatred.
This will be bad for your karma, very very bad, Kumar.
Mashuna
Ovis ex Machina
Looks good - you should try this Kumar.
pakeha
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Dunno about all this, Kumar.
Anasan-
Complete abstinence of eating any food for certain time. Intake of boiled water is optional.
Alpähära or Unodary-
Reduction in the quantity of food one normally eats
Ichhanirodha or Vritti_sankshep-
Limiting the number of food items to eat and material things for use
Rasatyäga-
Complete abstinence of eating or drinking juicy and tasty foods such as butter, yogurt, milk, tea, sweets, fried foods, snacks, spicy foods, juice etc. (no attachments to the taste of the foods)
from:
http://www.jainbelief.com/intro_jainism.htm
Do you think renouncing fried foods would be beneficial to one's spiritual path?
Anasan-
Complete abstinence of eating any food for certain time. Intake of boiled water is optional.
Alpähära or Unodary-
Reduction in the quantity of food one normally eats
Ichhanirodha or Vritti_sankshep-
Limiting the number of food items to eat and material things for use
Rasatyäga-
Complete abstinence of eating or drinking juicy and tasty foods such as butter, yogurt, milk, tea, sweets, fried foods, snacks, spicy foods, juice etc. (no attachments to the taste of the foods)
from:
http://www.jainbelief.com/intro_jainism.htm
Do you think renouncing fried foods would be beneficial to one's spiritual path?
Simply;
Believe in possibilities and 7) Exercise equanimity towards all.
I haven't ever claimed that my ideas or feelings are A&F but felt we should respect all understandings which consistently existed in people at mass since long back in consideration of above. Refer my signature. My things are both sided but your's one sided.
In view of non-absolutism, Individuality exists in all these. Many things are told but individuality consideration still exist unless anything is A&F.
Just to complete my last post & justification to individuality:-
"5.2 Anekäntaväd (Doctrine of many Viewpoints)
The concept of universal interdependence underpins the Jain theory of knowledge, known as Anekäntaväd or the doctrine of many aspects. In this ever-changing universe an infinite number of viewpoints exist. These viewpoints depend on the time, place, circumstances, and nature of individuals. Anekäntaväd means acceptance of all viewpoints, which are positive in nature. This is known as non-absolutism.
This leads to the doctrine of Syädväd or relativity, which states that expression of truth is relative to different viewpoints (Nayas). What is true from one point of view is open to question from another. Absolute truth cannot be grasped from any particular viewpoint. Absolute truth is the total sum of individual (partial) truths from many different viewpoints, even if they seem to contradict each other.
Because it is rooted in the doctrines of Anekäntaväd and Syädväd, Jainism does not look upon the universe from an anthropocentric, ethnocentric or egocentric viewpoint. It takes into account the positive viewpoints of other human beings, other communities, and other nations."
From your link.
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I have posted " Anekantvad theory" because we usually do not respect it inspite of fact. I respected it not due to religion/preaching but due to that it is commonly applicable(so might be near to absolute). Since Jainism fundamental principles are Equanimous approach(triple gems--Samyak- gyan, Drasan & Charitra(Right/rational/equanimous knowledge, vision & conduct resulting equanimious faith) & Ahinsa(non-voilence, harming no one physically & mentallly), I respected it. This can also lead to materialistic discussions without fight--egoistic or otherwise. So we can do & learn better. Hence just respect it. Just have a deep look at this example:-
Few men have interpreted a big mango tree in their own manner & perception as under:-
Ist: it is a big tree.
2: It is big green tree.
3: It is big shaddy tree.
4. It is big fruit tree.
5. It is big Mango tree.
6. It is big Alphanso tree.
7. It is big some different cultivar tree...
8. A blind man on touch: It appears as a thick pole.
9. A very dim vision man:- It appears like a ghost or small mountain.
10.A man looked from a distance at dusk or in night:- It look like a small mountain or a big ghost.
Etc.
Who is untrue in himself but can be different in others which can stary controdictions, aurguments & fights. But If all follow Anekantvad principle, they may not do so. It is the beauty of this suggestion. We do need it more here and talk with equanimity instead of selfishness or ego.
Few men have interpreted a big mango tree in their own manner & perception as under:-
Ist: it is a big tree.
2: It is big green tree.
3: It is big shaddy tree.
4. It is big fruit tree.
5. It is big Mango tree.
6. It is big Alphanso tree.
7. It is big some different cultivar tree...
8. A blind man on touch: It appears as a thick pole.
9. A very dim vision man:- It appears like a ghost or small mountain.
10.A man looked from a distance at dusk or in night:- It look like a small mountain or a big ghost.
Etc.
Who is untrue in himself but can be different in others which can stary controdictions, aurguments & fights. But If all follow Anekantvad principle, they may not do so. It is the beauty of this suggestion. We do need it more here and talk with equanimity instead of selfishness or ego.
Since it is quality based rather than entity based supporting equanimity & "Live & let live" My Aspirations:-
http://www.jainpushp.org/meribhavna-pdf.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1AKsXgWePk
http://www.jainpushp.org/meribhavna-pdf.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1AKsXgWePk
Mashuna
Ovis ex Machina
Yes all should. It should look good to all therefore absolute.
So why don't you do these things yourself?
You must know that "looks good to all" does not make something "absolute".
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pakeha
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Hi, Kumar, I'm glad you liked my link!
But since this thread is about cooking, I feel it's good to centre onthe Jainist approach to food.
Is that OK with you?
I'm specifically thinking about how the Jainist precepts I posted translate into your own practise.
I think that is on-topic, because we're discussing food preparation, after all.
Have a great Sunday!
Daylightstar
Philosopher
In your case:
first) Declare your unsubstantiated beliefs as valid.
7) No change in your persistence whatsoever to try and shove your idea down other people's throats. No change whatsoever in your persistent refusal to learn anything.
Kumar, what I said above, and quoted just below this line as well:
You don't really, truly accept those principles as it seems they were intended. You mangle and abuse them in an attempt to let them support your entirely unsupportable beliefs and ideas.
Again, your acting entirely in contravention of those principles you presented.
It's called being deceitful, Kumar.
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Daylightstar
Philosopher
The act of being deceitful:
Daylightstar
Philosopher
Yes all should. It should look good to all therefore absolute.
It still does not make your ideas and unsupportable belief and deceitfulness look good, nor any better.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
If nothing is absolute or can't be absolute, all should accept it and do not ask for absolutes. If one side ask for absolute other side can also ask.
Thanks.
Something is mentioned about Jainist approach to food but becoming dificult to strictly followed due to modernization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism
But I feel religious practices should be based on improving physical & mental health & health of soul(?) not otherwise.
NO. It can be teaching a lesson by brainshaking. If one demad for absolute like he/she should also present absolute like.