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2 questions re 1120 'Missing bodies' from WTC 1&2 & media complicity in mass murder

"Pulverization":
... just because the thought that explosives are needed ultimately ends up being either an energy or a momentum argument:
... and Oh! One of the posts in a thread that came up in my search reminded me of tfk's post regarding material "flung" out from the towers:
And last: Factor of Safety:
 
atavisms said:
I have asked this of a few 'journalists' and they either ignore the question, or stay quiet. Not all of course, some know the truth perfectly well, but argue that, they dont get to pick their stories, the copy desks do, and they need their jobs.
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How is it that you know what the truth is, that the alleged journalists know?

Did they tell you the truth? If so, why don't you tell us?

If they didn't tell you the truth, do you have some kind of invention that let's you know when "others", know the truth? If so, does the gadget not tell you what the truth is?

If you know, what "truth" other people know, just tell us the truth. I am sure you did the research on this alleged "truth", and come armed with full and incontrovertible proof.

Or, maybe you just suspect you know something, without really having any proof at all.
 
deaman said:
How is it that you know what the truth is, that the alleged journalists know?

Did they tell you the truth? If so, why don't you tell us?

If they didn't tell you the truth, do you have some kind of invention that let's you know when "others", know the truth? If so, does the gadget not tell you what the truth is?

If you know, what "truth" other people know, just tell us the truth. I am sure you did the research on this alleged "truth", and come armed with full and incontrovertible proof.

Or, maybe you just suspect you know something, without really having any proof at all.
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And, as we all know, journalists NEVER go out on a limb and risk their jobs or even their lives for an Earth-shattering story.
 
Jbui said:
Nobody sees anything suspecting in Deutche band or other buildings, so naturally they nobody want's any investigation on them. WTC7 on the other had is the biggest piece of evidence according to the millions of people who are demanding a new investigation.
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So what about the 300 body parts on the roof :confused:

There is a question for you on post 313, how about staying on topic and answering that ?
 
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Spanx said:
Ok, why don't you show us your evidence and explain what is unusual.

You are the one making the claim that it was unusual for bodies to be mutilated in a building collapse, you need to provide the evidence.

You have obviously not even thought about your claim. You started off saying 1000ft and now your down to 600ft, you are working off a mosque map that was created 9 years after 9/11. Dig a little deeper and see where these claims are coming from. This is not something you have thought up on your own.

If you don't want people to call you an idiot, don't give them reason to ;)

Nobody hates you :)
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What is unusual about the mutilation? I have read and seen numerous stories on people in collapsed buildings, and they are never in small pieces. As I already told you, you can shred a body to pieces by shooting it with shotgun from close range or exploding a vest of dynamite. But not with gravity. Even the 9/11 jumper was in one piece. Now if shredding is impossible, the shredding and bouncing 600 feet becomes a pure miracle with gravity. if you need to fly 600feet, but same time be in the wtc meat grinder - you would have to be in two places in the same time. And both flying 600 feet and being shred to small pieces are both impossible by gravity, but they Are both natural result of being next to huge explosion.
 
Jbui said:
What is unusual about the mutilation? I have read and seen numerous stories on people in collapsed buildings, and they are never in small pieces. As I already told you, you can shred a body to pieces by shooting it with shotgun from close range or exploding a vest of dynamite. But not with gravity. Even the 9/11 jumper was in one piece. Now if shredding is impossible, the shredding and bouncing 600 feet becomes a pure miracle with gravity. if you need to fly 600feet, but same time be in the wtc meat grinder - you would have to be in two places in the same time. And both flying 600 feet and being shred to small pieces are both impossible by gravity, but they Are both natural result of being next to huge explosion.
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What's the natural result of being a passenger in a 950 km/h plane that crashes into a building 300 meters above the street? Or being in your office when a plane traveling at high speed hits you? A little more than "gravity" at play there, eh?
 
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Jbui said:
What is unusual about the mutilation? I have read and seen numerous stories on people in collapsed buildings, and they are never in small pieces. As I already told you, you can shred a body to pieces by shooting it with shotgun from close range or exploding a vest of dynamite. But not with gravity. Even the 9/11 jumper was in one piece. Now if shredding is impossible, the shredding and bouncing 600 feet becomes a pure miracle with gravity. if you need to fly 600feet, but same time be in the wtc meat grinder - you would have to be in two places in the same time. And both flying 600 feet and being shred to small pieces are both impossible by gravity, but they Are both natural result of being next to huge explosion.
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Ok now show me how you got to the 600ft figure. Is it something you found on the internet, were you there? 600ft from where? Maybe it was from the 98th floor.

You have the evidence, show it and prove it.

You must have got the idea from somewhere.
 
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Jbui said:
What is unusual about the mutilation? I have read and seen numerous stories on people in collapsed buildings, and they are never in small pieces. As I already told you, you can shred a body to pieces by shooting it with shotgun from close range or exploding a vest of dynamite. But not with gravity. Even the 9/11 jumper was in one piece. QUOTE]







Try again. The accounts of firemen who saw the falling people hit the pavement described the bodies bursting apart- The aftermath of a person falling 100 floors did not retain a human form
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this website is blocked in the UAE... IIRC it shows the video of the people hitting the ground on 9/11 and what was left of them. It is definately NSFW and grotesque and quite disturbing. I'm not sure if this is the exact video I remember, but i'm sure this site has it.

http://www.google.ae/url?sa=t&rct=j...=O-w8yAwR-hwgTFQkbsAAew&bvm=bv.41018144,d.d2k

You obviously are someone who has never seen what the power of gravity can and does cause.
 
carlitos said:
What's the natural result of being a passenger in a 950 km/h plane that crashes into a building 300 meters above the street? Or being in your office when a plane traveling at high speed hits you? A little more than "gravity" at play there, eh?
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We are not talking about the passengers or people in thise floors, since I agree that those people probably were torn in pieces. We are talking about the remaining +1000 people that were also blown into peaces.
 
Jbui said:
What is unusual about the mutilation? I have read and seen numerous stories on people in collapsed buildings, and they are never in small pieces.
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How many buildings collapse that are >100 stories tall and are full of people? Are you talking about a roof collapse or a balcony collapse? Surely you can tell us where these, "numerous stories on people in collapsed buildings, and they are never in small pieces." are so we can see how valid the comparison is to the Twin Towers.


As I already told you, you can shred a body to pieces by shooting it with shotgun from close range or exploding a vest of dynamite. But not with gravity.
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You are talking out of you ass.


Even the 9/11 jumper was in one piece.
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THE jumper? Man up and do a google image search. Show me the ONLY person that jumped from the towers and how they landed in one piece. These pictures should disturb you.

Now if shredding is impossible,
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Shredding is all that can happen.

the shredding and bouncing 600 feet becomes a pure miracle with gravity.
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Stop playing stupid. Nobody claims that anyone bounced. Just add that to your disrespect for the dead.

if you need to fly 600feet, but same time be in the wtc meat grinder - you would have to be in two places in the same time.
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You are in hundreds or thousands of places at the same time, you have been diced, sliced, and smashed to pieces. Those little people bits get spread about in the maelstrom.

And both flying 600 feet and being shred to small pieces are both impossible by gravity, but they Are both natural result of being next to huge explosion.
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Remember that huge dust cloud? The smaller the particle, the farther it went.
Say you have a convenient 1000 cliff with an open stairway on the side. Starting at ground level, you throw a baseball as hard as you can straight out and measure how far til it first hits the ground. Now repeat this at every landing (conveniently spaced one story apart) and measure again.

Can you make any assumptions as to what might happen to your measurements? Say the relationship between distance vs. height?

Who am I kidding, I may as well be speaking to the 1000 ft. cliff.
 
some of the 9/11 Truthers claim mannequins were thrown out of the WTC windows, as opposed to real people falling and jumping
 
Jbui said:
We are not talking about the passengers or people in thise floors, since I agree that those people probably were torn in pieces. We are talking about the remaining +1000 people that were also blown into peaces.
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Oh what a suprise your moving the goal posts :D

Let's get it straight. your not talking about body parts flying 600ft :confused: your talking about compressed body parts in the building remains.

Let's have your evidence then :D

Oh that's right you can't produce any. Now why would people call you an idiot :confused:
 
Titanic Explorer said:
some of the 9/11 Truthers claim mannequins were thrown out of the WTC windows, as opposed to real people falling and jumping
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I knew that. Cunning mannequins too what with flailing arms and such. 'Course it begs the question what happened to the ones doing the throwing? Parachute? Dustified for the greater good? What?

Inquiring mind wants to know!

Fitz
 
Jbui said:
We are not talking about the passengers or people in thise floors, since I agree that those people probably were torn in pieces. We are talking about the remaining +1000 people that were also blown into peaces.
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Wait a second.

You said that "millions" are "demanding" a "new investigation".
I showed youz it is actually only some thousands.
You were wrong by a factor of 1000

You said that "thousands" are marching for 9/11 truth, but the videos you linked support only tens, or at most hundreds.
You were wrong by a factor of 10 to 100.

Now you say that "+1000 people that were also blown into peaces".
I assume you are again wrong by a factor of 100 or so.
Alright, where is your evidence that "+1000 people" "were also blown into peaces"?
You do realize that 1000 pieces of humans that were found may represent a far smaller number of different people? See, if you drop a couple Ming vases on your head from 3 meters up (perhaps to study the difference between static and dynamic loads? I think you forgot to address the many posts that told you about that difference), and afterward, you find a thousand fragments of Ming vases all around - are these then evidence of "+1000 Ming vases that were also blown into peaces"?
 
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