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2 questions re 1120 'Missing bodies' from WTC 1&2 & media complicity in mass murder

Jbui said:
you are right that in classic CD, most of the dust comes from the free falling concrete. But there are two important points: you actually need demolition charges to enable the free fall. And when you see a free fall, the gravity doesn't crush almost anything on the way down, but only on the ground level. Just like WTC7 - gravity did most of the work there too, and debris was all in 60 feet radius.

Another side of the coin is that in WTC1 for example we see the thick dust cloud during the falling period:
So no kinetic energy has been transformed to destruction of steel structure or floors, nothing visible is crushing anything, and yet we already have the dust could, which in the Fort Worth case required all the potential energy of the demolished building. So in Texas you say that you need all the energy for this dust cloud, and in NYC you can do it without anything hitting the ground?

anyways thanks for your comments, bed time.
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This is why you fail.

You see a single dust cloud eruption when in this photo there are at least eleven. Each caused by the crushing you say you cannot see. Each fountain of dust is caused concrete floor segments slamming into the floor below it. It is not a uniform collapse.

You keep asking for your four points to be answered, yet it's right there in this picture. In those fountains of dust are some of the body parts of the remaining people trapped in the top floors. The pattern of body parts follows the fallout from the dust could at it's ground terminant.

One final thing to ponder, many of those dots on your map are from on person.
 
ergo said:
Oh, look, a "meat grinder". Look at the floors failing progressively, smashing people and furniture in between them, getting all "scrambled" up, and then somehow simultaneously spewing them in all directions up and out. What an energetic series of floor failures!

Those floors must be so heavy that they just instantly smash each other, and all their contents, furnishings, people, desks, file cabinets, marble slabs, safes, all into fine particles, and then somehow still have enough energy to propel themselves in their particulate state laterally for hundreds of feet! What a MASSIVE progressive floor failure!
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For once you have posted something accurate.
 
ergo said:
Oh, look, a "meat grinder". Look at the floors failing progressively, smashing people and furniture in between them, getting all "scrambled" up, and then somehow simultaneously spewing them in all directions up and out. What an energetic series of floor failures!

Those floors must be so heavy that they just instantly smash each other, and all their contents, furnishings, people, desks, file cabinets, marble slabs, safes, all into fine particles, and then somehow still have enough energy to propel themselves in their particulate state laterally for hundreds of feet! What a MASSIVE progressive floor failure!
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Ironically, as already pointed out (you missed that), you are correct. You are a parody of 911 truth, the best 911 can be.

Making fun of people murdered by terrorists; what you do best, cause you don't do physics.
 
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Jbui said:
Obviously it's much less energy, work, etc, to bring down a skyscraper with some exlplosives than gravity, otherwise CD's would be done by loading stuff on top of the building.
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You must be unfamiliar with the explosiveless demolition technique of verinage, which drops the upper part of a building onto the lower structure by displacing the support columns with massive hydraulic jacks. If the destruction of the Twin Towers resembled any demolition technique, it'd be verinage.

Jbui said:
With thermite based explosives I was talking about the patented two layer explosive, with an oxide component. so it has both heat and shockwave components. Yes there was a lot of sound - just like all the eyewitnesses etc talked about, but no, there were no typical RDX sounds. Just like in this thermite demolition patent, the advantage with thermite demolition is that is produces LESS sound. Some sound, but LESS than typical RDX:
http://www.google.com/patents/US5532449
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Do you even read what you link to? There's no mention of explosives anywhere in that patent!
 
Jbui said:
you are right that in classic CD, most of the dust comes from the free falling concrete. But there are two important points: you actually need demolition charges to enable the free fall.
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There's no free fall! You can see this in the image you posted. The falling rubble from the top is outpacing the collapse.


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Jbui said:
1. Gravity. As seen in picture of a 9/11 jumper, 300-400m free fall body was intact.
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Piffle. Let's see the photo. Bodies falling from that height react like Gallagher's smashed watermelons. Firefighters described the sound of the bodies hitting as being "like a bomb" (note simile). This is often misquoted by truthers as firefighters describing actual bombs going off.

As I pointed out in post 147, your elevator/bathroom scale/chair/person experiment, falling at 0.7g from half the height of the Twin Towers, results in a pile of rubble covered in bloody goo.
 
Jbui said:
Meaning how to shred people and throw them 1000 feet away with gravity.
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Well first you would need a 1200 foot tall building weighing 250,000 tons. If you happen to have one about to collapse throw some corpses in it and see just what happens.
 
ozeco41 said:
Somebody has to keep feeding the troll otherwise he would fade away.
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Every time there's a new one, I give somewhere between 1 and 10 honest answers to questions. Hope springs eternal.

Elsewhere, Gravy is making more productive use of his time than I...
 
Jbui said:
I prefer talking about evidence that we both can agree on, like the fact that intact bodies inside wtc transformed to small pieces 600feet away.
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Ok, why don't you show us your evidence and explain what is unusual.

You are the one making the claim that it was unusual for bodies to be mutilated in a building collapse, you need to provide the evidence.

You have obviously not even thought about your claim. You started off saying 1000ft and now your down to 600ft, you are working off a mosque map that was created 9 years after 9/11. Dig a little deeper and see where these claims are coming from. This is not something you have thought up on your own.

If you don't want people to call you an idiot, don't give them reason to ;)

Nobody hates you :)
 
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