1) Quad wasn't actually talking about teachers and neither was I when I said "people who are statistically least likely to shoot up a school". People in the US with permits to carry a concealed weapon are the least likely to commit a crime. I don't understand why allowing a permitted weapon holder to walk through the doors of a school sounds bat **** crazy unless you feel that there would be some horrifying consequence. I can't see that there is any evidence for that conclusion, and in some municipalities, teachers with concealed carry permits are allowed to carry in their workplace (i.e., the classroom)
2) Again, Quad wasn't talking about teachers in the post to which you responded, but "school staff" is in the discussion so I'll address it; It is highly unlikely that your child would even be aware of the presence of an armed staff member in the school. "Concealed" means concealed. People with permits are
required to keep the weapon hidden.
3) One might just as easily say that kids being shot at school was a sign of society's failure. But statistically speaking, the number of children killed at school is far lower than the number of children killed in their own homes. According to
ChildHelp, at least five children die every day due to abuse and neglect. Almost none of them with a firearm, by the way. Mass shootings like this are exceptionally rare, And if a magic wand could be waved that would in some way eliminate all mass shootings, the per capita homicide rate wouldn't even budge.
There are a lot of things I would point to as evidence of the "failure" of US society. I could probably fill a couple of pages before I even got to "gun culture". The most glaring failures would be lack of access to healthcare, the outrageous income disparity, and concentration of wealth. If you look at the demography of
typical gun violence, you will see that it is concentrated among the very poor. Poverty has more to do with violent crime and homicide than the presence of guns. Other than the emotional content you ascribe to it, allowing a licensed weapon into a school is a non-issue.
4) Everyone gets angry, yet the millions of people licensed to carry concealed weapons aren't shooting people who are rude to them, As I said above, they are the most law abiding demographic in the country. In fact, every weapon holder I've known personally does everything in their power to de-escalate any situation in which they find themselves. It seems like legally permitted gun owners don't seem to get so angry. There's a reason for that.
So again I ask, in light of the information above, what rational reason do you have for banning permitted weapon holders from a school? Keep in mind, I'm not suggesting that this will prevent any future school killing, all I'm asking is what is the issue you have with lifting that ban?
